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    as much as i'd like that to be true, i don't think it will be.

    once this all implodes, they'll retreat for a cycle or two and be back with new leadership....who will go back to the tried and true GOP turnout motivator...fear mongering about gays, muslims and abortion.
    Interspersed with the next great black or female, or something, 'Democrat/ Lib'rul/ Progressive' hope (and chains) and- guess what? Same as it ever was, just a more smoothly greased dildo. A sop here and there perhaps- whatever the 'market' will bear.

    Whilst this administration stands out for it's sheer incompetence and buffoonery, I'm afraid the answers are not to be found in party politics, or the two party political cycle as it has descended to in the US. If anything, the Democrats betray their constituency even worse than the other side.

    If you want real Change, you are going to have to change the System old chap. I think it was once called Democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    you are going to have to change the System old chap
    The tree of liberty will have to be refreshed for that to happen.

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    Trump, like clinton, is the establishments choice. He's a dumb cvnt but he has no more power than any other puppet politician. He sits all day on twitter, and occassionally gets his orders from Tel Aviv by Whatsapp

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Trump, like clinton, is the establishments choice. He's a dumb cvnt but he has no more power than any other puppet politician.
    Listen to this man...


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    You've got to laugh.... from Sky's story:


    The author of an 'expose' on Donald Trump has said many people close to the President describe him as a "moron, an idiot" and "like a child".

    <snip>

    The President's legal team sent a "cease and desist" letter to Wolff and his publisher, threatening libel action.

    <snip>

    US publishers Henry Holt & Co brought forward the release date by four days after attempts by the US President's legal team to block the publication, and bookshops have reported people queuing up outside.
    Little, Brown has done the same in the UK because of "unprecedented demand".


    https://news.sky.com/story/queues-for-fire-and-fury-book-that-trump-says-is-full-of-lies-11196083


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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    Listen to this man...
    Why...he's obviously senile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Bring it on. Hope the publishers get it out quick before any injunction.

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    Good article....

    Donald Trump Didn’t Want to Be President

    One year ago: the plan to lose, and the administration’s shocked first days.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    Why...he's obviously senile.
    Not anymore...RIP Dick Gregory.

    Gregory acknowledges that daring to question popular opinion, often causes people to write you off as “crazy.”
    or senile.


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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    who will go back to the tried and true GOP turnout motivator...fear mongering about gays, muslims and abortion.
    You forgot the guns and Mexicans.

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    And the Trumpie for Best Actor in a Misleading Role goes to . . .
    By Dana Milbank Opinion writer (WaPo)

    Of all the scandalous revelations in the Michael Wolff book, the most revealing may be the one about the apricot swirl atop the president’s head.
    For years, Donald Trump has labored to convince us that “I actually don’t have a bad hairline,” that “it’s not really a comb-over,” that “it’s my real hair.” His personal physician attested that Trump “has all his hair.”
    Whom were we to believe: Trump or our own eyes?

    Now, via Wolff, comes a plausible explanation from Ivanka Trump of her father’s bouffant: “She often described the mechanics behind it to friends: an absolutely clean pate — a contained island after scalp-reduction [at]surgery — surrounded by a furry circle of hair around the sides and front, from which all ends are drawn up to meet in the center and then swept back and secured by a stiffening spray.” And the color “was from a product called Just for Men — the longer it was left on, the darker it got. Impatience resulted in Trump’s orange-blond hair color.”
    There it is, in orange and white: Everything about the man is deceptive, even the style of his hair — and the size of his button.

    After Trump boasted about the largeness and functionality of his “nuclear button” this week, a few reporters pointed out that the only button on his desk in the Oval Office is for him to order a Diet Coke. Maybe Trump thinks he is ordering a nuclear strike each time he presses that button and that he is then being rewarded with a Diet Coke?

    There are valid questions about the validity of some anecdotes in the book, “Fire and Fury,” but former top Trump strategist Stephen K. Bannon, whose quotes are the most damning, hasn’t disputed their accuracy. It’s as if Trump has a force field of falsehood around him: The further people get from him, the more they succumb to reality.
    In September, when Bannon had just left the White House and was still in Trump’s force field, he proclaimed to “60 Minutes” that “there’s nothing to the Russia investigation. It’s a waste of time.” In the book, Bannon is quoted as saying that the Trump campaign meeting with Russians was “treasonous” and “unpatriotic,” that there is “zero” chance Donald Trump Jr. didn’t introduce the Russians to his father, and that investigators are “going to crack Don Junior like an egg.”
    It’s no small irony that book excerpts showing Trump’s perfidy appeared the day after Trump announced that he would host “THE MOST DISHONEST & CORRUPT MEDIA AWARDS,” featuring “Bad Reporting in various categories.” Call it the Trumpies?

    For once in his life, Trump is being modest. In the field of dishonesty, it is he who deserves the Cecil B. DeMille Award for Lifetime Achievement: Obama wiretapped him. He had the largest inauguration audience ever. The Russia story is fake news. Muslims celebrated in New Jersey on 9/11. He only got a small loan from dad. Hillary Clinton started the “birther” movement. The tax cut will cost him a fortune.
    Glenn Kessler and his Fact Checker team at The Post report that Trump has made 1,950 false or misleading claims in office.
    I would nominate Trump in the “Best Original Story” category for his recent claims that President Barack Obama’s plane “never got to land” in the Philippines: “The plane came close but it didn’t land.” This is pure fabrication.

    In the “Best Adapted Fact” category, I would nominate Trump for his claim this week via Twitter: “Since taking office I have been very strict on Commercial Aviation. Good news — it was just reported that there were Zero deaths in 2017, the best and safest year on record!” There hasn’t been a fatal passenger crash by a U.S. airline in America since 2009.

    In the “Best Actor in a Misleading Role” category, I again nominate Trump, this time for boasting, some 85 times by Kessler’s count, about stock market records — contradicting his claim that the same bull market under Obama was “artificial” and “a bubble.”
    And, in the “Best Made-up” category, I nominate Trump’s claim Thursday that Wolff had “zero access to the White House.” Reporters saw Wolff at the White House many times.
    Maybe Trump and his few still-loyal aides are telling the truth: Former Trump aide Katie Walsh didn’t say working with Trump was “like trying to figure out what a child wants,” Melania Trump didn’t weep with sorrow when her husband won, and various aides and pals didn’t describe Trump as an “idiot,” “dumb,” “stupid,” “crazy,” a “dope” and semiliterate.
    But on the “Today” show Friday, Wolff had a compelling retort: “My credibility is being questioned by a man who has less credibility than perhaps anyone who has walked the earth.”
    Give a Trumpie to that scalp-reduced guy with the $7 dye job!

    Majestically enthroned amid the vulgar herd

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    His personal physician attested that Trump “has all his hair.”
    So are we now to doubt other things the doctor has attested to regarding Trump's state of health?



    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    Glenn Kessler and his Fact Checker team at The Post report that Trump has made 1,950 false or misleading claims in office.
    And many would say, and people have told me, that Trump's every day use of phrases such as "and many would say", and "people have told me" to preface a statement of dubious truth, protecting himself from outright provable lying, is also misleading or lying. And those misleading prefaces are too numerous to count.

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    He also wins the Best Orange Fuckwit in History award too. Good on him.

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    Here's a good read.

    Donald Trump Didn’t Want to Be President
    One year ago: the plan to lose, and the administration’s shocked first days.

    Michael Wolff?s ?Fire and Fury?: Inside Trump?s White House

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    ^already posted above. Try reading the threads sometimes instead of just posting.

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    As soon as the campaign team had stepped into the White House, Walsh saw, it had gone from managing Trump to the expectation of being managed by him. Yet the president, while proposing the most radical departure from governing and policy norms in several generations, had few specific ideas about how to turn his themes and vitriol into policy. And making suggestions to him was deeply complicated. Here, arguably, was the central issue of the Trump presidency, informing every aspect of Trumpian policy and leadership: He didn’t process information in any conventional sense. He didn’t read. He didn’t really even skim. Some believed that for all practical purposes he was no more than semi-[at]literate. He trusted his own expertise [at]— no matter how paltry or irrelevant — more than anyone else’s. He was often confident, but he was just as often paralyzed, less a savant than a figure of sputtering and dangerous insecurities, whose instinctive response was to lash out and behave as if his gut, however confused, was in fact in some clear and forceful way telling him what to do. It was, said Walsh, “like trying to figure out what a child wants.”
    By the end of the second week following the immigration EO, the three advisers were in open conflict with one another. For Walsh, it was a daily process of managing an impossible task: Almost as soon as she received direction from one of the three men, it would be countermanded by one or another of them.
    “I take a conversation at face value and move forward with it,” she said. “I put what was decided on the schedule and bring in comms and build a press plan around it … And then Jared says, ‘Why did you do that?’ And I say, ‘Because we had a meeting three days ago with you and Reince and Steve where you agreed to do this.’ And he says, ‘But that didn’t mean I wanted it on the schedule …’ It almost doesn’t matter what anyone says: Jared will agree, and then it will get sabotaged, and then Jared goes to the president and says, see, that was Reince’s idea or Steve’s idea.”
    If Bannon, Priebus, and Kushner were now fighting a daily war with one another, it was exacerbated by the running disinformation campaign about them that was being prosecuted by the president himself. When he got on the phone after dinner, he’d speculate on the flaws and weaknesses of each member of his staff. Bannon was disloyal (not to mention he always looks like shit). Priebus was weak (not to mention he was short — a midget). Kushner was a suck-up. Sean Spicer was stupid (and looks terrible too). Conway was a crybaby. Jared and Ivanka should never have come to Washington.


    During that first month, Walsh’s disbelief and even fear about what was happening in the White House moved her to think about quitting. Every day after that became a countdown toward the moment she knew she wouldn’t be able to take it anymore. To Walsh, the proud political pro, the chaos, the rivalries, and the president’s own lack of focus were simply incomprehensible. In early March, not long before she left, she confronted Kushner with a simple request. “Just give me the three things the president wants to focus on,” she demanded. “What are the three priorities of this White House?”
    It was the most basic question imaginable — one that any qualified presidential candidate would have answered long before he took up residence at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Six weeks into Trump’s presidency, Kushner was wholly without an answer.
    “Yes,” he said to Walsh. “We should probably have that conversation.”
    “If we stop testing right now we’d have very few cases, if any.” Donald J Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    “Yes,” he said to Walsh. “We should probably have that conversation.”
    In the same class as Trump's "You'll see" answer to anything he doesn't know about the future.

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    ...^why is this in the tRump thread? He had nothing to do with black unemployment...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...^why is this in the tRump thread? He had nothing to do with black unemployment...

    Please don't show yourself to be a fool and try to make someone believe it was Obama's doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Please don't show yourself to be a fool and try to make someone believe it was Obama's doing.
    Like Trump's claiming credit for any stock market rises, eh?
    But if the bubble bursts, it will be Obama's fault, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...^why is this in the tRump thread? He had nothing to do with black unemployment...
    Yes. Trump had nothing to do with current employment figures nor the stock market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...^why is this in the tRump thread? He had nothing to do with black unemployment...
    according to Hannity, black employment has risen under Trump



    ...yeah I know, i can't believe I wrote that either. But he said it, and as it is mainstream americana media, it must be true.

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