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    Trump Reverses Obama's Mortgage Fee Cuts on First Day

    Day one and the screwing of the working class begins...

    Soon after Donald Trump was sworn in as president, his administration undid one of Barack Obama’s last-minute economic-policy actions: a mortgage-fee cut under a government program that’s popular with first-time home buyers and low-income borrowers.


    The new administration on Friday said it’s canceling a reduction in the Federal Housing Administration’s annual fee for most borrowers. The cut would have reduced the annual premium for someone borrowing $200,000 by $500 in the first year.


    The reversal comes after Trump’s team criticized the Obama administration for adopting new policies as it prepared to leave office. In the waning days of the administration, the White House announced new Russia sanctions, a ban on drilling in parts of the Arctic and many other regulations.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/ar...rtgage-fee-cut

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    Quote Originally Posted by birding
    Of course the super pac money goes to her campaign you say yourself it goes to advertise her campaign. You are so besotted you cant even think straight.
    That is a straight up lie. PAC and super PAC funds are seperate from the candidate's campaign organization. By law there can be no cooridination, communication or contact between them. Look it up. There is a distinction between the official campaign organization and committees organized to support the campaign with advertising etc. But they can have no ties of any kind to the organization itself.
    You're completely ignorant of American politics. Comment on birds,whales or sheep herding, something you know something about.
    This post has not been authorized by the TeakDoor censorship committee.

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    Are we still arguing about crowd size?.....Yes it appears that we are.
    On another thread we are still getting graphs and charts showing popular vote margin and a steady steam of complaints about the injustice of EC vote being the one that counts.

    Although it must seem like a gross miscarriage of justice to anti-Trump folks, crowd size (other than crowds of votes) is not a factor in deciding who the President will be.

    Popular vote does win the individual state and it's attendant Electoral college votes...which then determines who will be President. The final number of votes nationally is not the deciding factor....sorry, but if this does not work for you it's worth pointing out once again that you have had over two hundred years to sort it out. If Clinton had won, would the same people be complaining...well hardly...

    Millions..of people are out chanting and marching about some vague notion that the legally and democratically elected President is going to take away their "rights" or something. but again marching and slogan chanting is not the way Presidents are elected....that happened back in November with that election thinggy.

    All these disappointed folks have the same opportunity to vote as any other citizen and they will be able to vote for whoever they like at the next election, (which is never that far away)....to get all these "rights" back presumably.

    In the meantime, it might be best to just stay home and wait for something to actually happen before protesting about it, and making a nuisance of themselves.

    It's notable that so many so called "celebrities" are out spouting off and looking for photo ops and a bit of press coverage. The ultimate attention whores are out in force.

    If Hillary Clinton had won the election, would there be "millions" of people marching and chanting? I think not. Even though millions of people detest the woman, I suspect they would have simply recognized the result; swallowed their disappointment, and moved on to wait for the next election.

    There's always been a general understanding that this is how democracies are supposed to work; which leads one to think that these "protesters" do not really believe much of what they claim....tolerance, understanding, freedom of choice, democracy etc etc. It's only democratic and worthy of tolerance when they get what they want....and the only vote that matters is their vote...even if they did not vote...

    The approach seems to be along the lines of: I don't like Trump so he can't be President no matter if he won the election or not.

    So what's next...civil war.?
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    I never believed in the "across-the-board tax." That was all "electioneering."

    Donald Trump's choice for treasury secretary, Steven Mnuchin, said Thursday that the incoming Trump administration doesn't plan to quickly impose an across the board 35% tax on items manufactured in other countries.
    Trump's treasury pick: 'No across-the-board border tax' - Jan. 19, 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    Are we still arguing about crowd size?.....Yes
    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    crowd size is not a factor in deciding who the President will be.
    It was Drumpf who started the whole thing and it is Drumpf that continues with it. The White House created this whole firestorm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    It was Drumpf who started the whole thing and it is Drumpf that continues with it
    This has been pointed out to koman several times but he insists on using an 'alternative set of facts' in true Trumpian form. If he wasn't a Trump supporter before (LOL) he sure is now.

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    Yeah, he was just hedging his bets in case Trump lost. That's obvious.

    Much easier to associate with a winner after they've actually won. Gutless

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    It was Drumpf who started the whole thing and it is Drumpf that continues with it
    This has been pointed out to koman several times but he insists on using an 'alternative set of facts' in true Trumpian form. If he wasn't a Trump supporter before (LOL) he sure is now.
    Why do you guys keep going on about "alternative facts" when someone posts an opinion of their own instead of just posting some cut-paste thing they found on their favorite internet site?

    I know perfectly well that Trump made far too much of it, but he was just reacting (over reacting) to highly partisan press coverage....so it could just as easily be argued that "they" started it. I think we've agreed he's over sensitive and egotistical....what's new?

    Most people probably don't really cares how many folks wanted to stand around in the rain for hours; it's a total non issue....like so many other non-issues being kicked around.

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    Is it a non-issue that Trump has the lowest approval rating of any incoming President in the history of the country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    Why do you guys keep going on about "alternative facts" when someone posts an opinion
    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    but he was just reacting (over reacting) to highly partisan press coverage
    What was highly partisan about stating that the crowds were smaller? The crowds were smaller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    Most people probably don't really cares how many folks wanted to stand around in the rain for hours; it's a total non issue....like so many other non-issues being kicked around.
    You're right. It's a non issue, other than the fact the president had his press secretary blatantly lie to the American people and attack the press corp with those lies, then had a shill on TV say, straight up say the press secretary used "alternative facts" (lies) when attacking the white house press corp.

    It also shows Trump has a ball-less, spineless yes man as a press secretary and not someone we can rely on to tell us the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redhaze View Post
    Is it a non-issue that Trump has the lowest approval rating of any incoming President in the history of the country?
    According to NBC, CNN, ABC, et al, yes of course Trump is extremely unpopular.

    Hardly surprising, seeing how they've been wrong all along, during the entire election cycle.

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    So basically all polling is fake is what you are saying...

    The national polling got the election completely right by the way. Literally within 1 point.

    The idea that Clinton would win in a landslide was always fantasy totally divorced from what the polling was telling us, and I consistently was saying this in the weeks leading up to the election. Trump winning was always a good possibility based on the polling. Clinton supporters had a collective blindspot in that regard, reinforced by an echo chamber that consisted of people who thought like them. The polling got it right, the interpretation of that polling was what fell short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redhaze
    Is it a non-issue that Trump has the lowest approval rating of any incoming President in the history of the country
    Says the MSM

    You say it like there were 10 of Americas greatest minds to choose from and everyone chose Trump.

    The only other real choice was HRC. Bernie was there but voting for him was the same as voting for Trump or not voting at all.

    The only other option was so shitty that Donald Trump is now president.

    Thank the DNC girlscout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    Why do you guys keep going on about "alternative facts" when someone posts an opinion
    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    but he was just reacting (over reacting) to highly partisan press coverage
    What was highly partisan about stating that the crowds were smaller? The crowds were smaller.
    So do you not believe that much of the press has been partisan before and after the election? ....oh and Yes, it looks like the crowds were smaller than for Obama.....that's what it was really all about wasn't it. Trump was silly to even mention it, because they were just baiting him, but hopefully he will learn....he is still new at this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by redhaze View Post
    . The polling got it right, the interpretation of that polling was what fell short.
    You can equivocate from now until infinity, but the bottom line remains the same:

    The really big losers of this election are the big corporate media outlets.. Their credibility vanished when the polls closed back in November.

    I think the LA Times was the only one who even came close to remaining objective throughout this election...
    The state where Hillary's 3 million vote advantage resides, go figure!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick
    You say it like there were 10 of Americas greatest minds to choose from and everyone chose Trump.
    Very good observation. In my own very first post on this whole thing (just prior to the election) I opined that America was faced with two very unsatisfactory candidates. Both were unpopular with a large part of the electorate, and no matter who won, they would still be very unpopular and the country would remain very divided. (that post is still there for anyone that wants to verify what I'm saying)

    As an outside observer who had no vote or part to play in all of it, I simply recognize the legitimate winner and defend their position as such. Some people interpret this as being a big Trump supporter because they are so partisan themselves that they can't see it any other way. I get that.

    Nobody in their right mind should be wanting Trump to fail. I would say exactly the same about Clinton if she had won, but she did not win.....therefor I'm a Trumpite instead of a Clintonite..or something like that, apparently living in some "alternative reality"...

    I really don't like Donald Trump and never have. I have stated this over and over even in this thread, but TD memories are short and selective. What I do like are some of his ideas and the notion of a new approach to doing things, so under the circumstances it seems prudent to wait and see what he can do. If he can deliver, he gets to keep the job; if he can not, he gets to lose the job....it's really that simple.

    In the meantime, he is the President; bombastic, rude, sensitive and egotistical, but that's what you got folks.....learn to live with it, and hope like hell he does a bang up job. That's my version of reality....alternative or not.

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    Says the MSM
    Says polling data, actually. But you probably think its made up or some conspiracy theory clap


    girlscout.
    Don't project your posting persona onto me. Compensation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post

    You can equivocate
    You're not using that word correctly

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    Quote Originally Posted by redhaze View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post

    You can equivocate
    You're not using that word correctly
    Apparently the meaning of the word "is", is up for debate yet again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    The really big losers of this election are the big corporate media outlets.
    No Earl, the really big losers of this election are the poor and uninsured, I'm sure the big corporate media outlets will make out just fine.

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    Pure gold. Delusional and abusive anti trumper (so many of them) attempts to have trump supporter moved from next to her on a plane. Hilarity ensues as she is forced out of lalaland into reality.

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    Nobody in their right mind should be wanting Trump to fail. I would say exactly the same about Clinton if she had won, but she did not win.....therefor I'm a Trumpite instead of a Clintonite..or something like that, apparently living in some "alternative reality"...
    Yeah its obvious you're rooting for him only after he won. We established that already. Its called being a bandwagoner. Not flattering for you FYI

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    Quote Originally Posted by koman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Slick
    You say it like there were 10 of Americas greatest minds to choose from and everyone chose Trump.
    Very good observation. In my own very first post on this whole thing (just prior to the election) I opined that America was faced with two very unsatisfactory candidates. Both were unpopular with a large part of the electorate, and no matter who won, they would still be very unpopular and the country would remain very divided. (that post is still there for anyone that wants to verify what I'm saying)

    As an outside observer who had no vote or part to play in all of it, I simply recognize the legitimate winner and defend their position as such. Some people interpret this as being a big Trump supporter because they are so partisan themselves that they can't see it any other way. I get that.

    Nobody in their right mind should be wanting Trump to fail. I would say exactly the same about Clinton if she had won, but she did not win.....therefor I'm a Trumpite instead of a Clintonite..or something like that, apparently living in some "alternative reality"...

    I really don't like Donald Trump and never have. I have stated this over and over even in this thread, but TD memories are short and selective. What I do like are some of his ideas and the notion of a new approach to doing things, so under the circumstances it seems prudent to wait and see what he can do. If he can deliver, he gets to keep the job; if he can not, he gets to lose the job....it's really that simple.

    In the meantime, he is the President; bombastic, rude, sensitive and egotistical, but that's what you got folks.....learn to live with it, and hope like hell he does a bang up job. That's my version of reality....alternative or not.
    The only trouble with this cogent well thought out perspective is you're ommiting the consideration of the fundamental nature of the liberal "moonbat".

    The sad truth is; once a moonbat, always a moonbat.

    Moonbats are simply stuck being moonbats, that's all, that be the way it is!

    An excellent examples come from the celebrity moonbats like Madonna who want to blowup the White House!



    Kinda hard to see the love with all that hate.

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