^ Oh my the aged lemmings step out to humiliate themselves.
^ Oh my the aged lemmings step out to humiliate themselves.
Three million people turned out nation wide even more globally.Originally Posted by Jesus Jones
How is it subjective? I posted the DC Metro figures.Originally Posted by Mr Earl
Uh, you?
The guy who claims Trump isn't own by Wall Street yet appointing an entire team of Wall Street hacks to run his admin. is no big deal
^ ^Earl you used to be a bro when you had trips. But your went nuts. Sad
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Appointing some of the best and brightest from Goldman Sachs, doesn't necessarily constitute ownership.
There could well be an underlying strategy which the public isn't privy to.
Trump has been underestimated nearly every step of the way to this historic Presidency.
I would expect the boneheads will most likely continue to underestimate him.
Keep drinking the piss earl.Originally Posted by Mr Earl
Being as they work for Donald now, it becomes a case of him owning them.....but it takes extraordinary analytical skills to see through such convoluted strategy....Originally Posted by Mr Earl
For whatever it's worth.....
Here's really what happened.....
Trump did his usual perusal of the newspapers and saw the comparison of crowd sizes.
Donald remembered looking out and seeing "millions" in the crowd, because, after all that's what he wanted to see, regardless of what everyone else calls "reality".
He stews about this on the ride to Langley to try and win over people whose work he's been critical and when given to chance to open his mouth, he attacks, because attacking with B.S. is his trademark. I'm guessing he made a great impression with the career people at Langley. After all, they did give him a standing ovation....as he was leaving.
Trump realizes that the only way to double down on his perceptions of reality is to have his press secretary go out and repeat Trump's message that the media is lying because he personally saw the crowd.
Spicer, being the upholder of the "truth" is ordered to confront the press and deliver the "Word of Trump". In doing so, he only embarrasses himself, loses whatever personal integrity he might have had and makes America appear to be run by a bunch of clowns.
I wonder which of Trump's team is going to repeat his obvious lies and impeach their personal integrity.
Well done Trump!!!!!
Only 3 years and 363 days to go snowflakes. So anyway which womens rights has Trump taken away that I've obviously missed?
How would you explain the lies that Trump told then forced his press secretary to repeat, Earl?Originally Posted by Mr Earl
Lying time is over...there's not going to be accusations made without proof by the president or his staff without consequences.
The election is over. When Trump or one of his minions says something, it should have a bit of truth behind it.
In fairness, he is duty bound to reflect the general tenor of the administration.Originally Posted by CSFFan
But what a sad inadequate little dweeb he already seems.
Like someone rescued by Donald from a future of befriending youngsters on gamer forums.
i would guess it went down more or less like you've laid it out.Originally Posted by CSFFan
here's the thing about trump---he needs an enemy to knock down so that he can distract people from looking too closely at him.
there was "low energy" jeb.
then it was "little" marco.
and, of course, "crooked" hillary.
republicans control all three branches of government...there is no real opposition....and that creates a problem for trump.
so now it's the "dishonest" media that is the opposition.
"don't look at my failures...because they're not failures at all...it's only the dishonest media"
he's a con man. that's all.
Repeating an obvious lie is not what anyone would expect from the president's press secretary. It wasn't a tone, it was a direct lie. A lie. The press secretary said the crowd at the inauguration was the largest EVER. EVER. It wasn't even close.Originally Posted by cyrille
It's a "truth" that Trump needs to believe, because after all, he's greatest, ever!
He's a narcissist (for Earl and Longway, someone who believes his own lies). He honestly believes his crowds were the biggest ever when obviously they weren't and anyone who says different is a liar.Originally Posted by raycarey
And that can't be a tone?Originally Posted by CSFFan
Why not?
h-u-u-g-e crowdsOriginally Posted by CSFFan
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...s-the-evidence
^ nice little slider from bo's to dt's crowd here
I thought a "tone" was an understated theme hidden within a group of messages..but now that I actually think about it, lies and misdirection has been the underlying tone of Trump.Originally Posted by cyrille
Thanks Cyrille!
Originally Posted by Humberthumbert, you make some good points on occasion, though the way you use ad hom makes it seem you have the e.q. of a little kid.Originally Posted by Humbert
i get it that you don't like trump's personality. though, IMO, he can get some things done during his term, like work with Russia and Assad and Iraq to finish off ISIS and get out of the middle east which was one of the main points (as opposed to the neo-cons) of Trump's Inaugural address:
obama dropped 26,000 bombs from drones, etc. (including drone CIA assassinations of "enemies") in 2016. did anyone really think that after 8 years of obama that he wouldn't be able to end the wars in iraq and afghanistan like he promised? well, he didn't.https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...alysis/513956/
'America First': Donald Trump's Populist Inaugural Address
“We do not seek to impose our way of life on anyone, but rather to let it shine as an example for everyone to follow.”
so, humbert, what is it that you are so afraid of that trump will do? start a "hot war" with russia like many members of congress of both parties seem to be pushing for with their actions?https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...6-obama-legacy
America dropped 26,171 bombs in 2016. What a bloody end to Obama's reign
doubt it.
domestic issues like health care? well, obama care doesn't work. the u.s. needs either a system like bernie suggested (like england has) or a more open market one as half-way doesn't work.
domestic issues like abortion? well, besides less federal money going to groups supporting abortions, the supreme court isn't going to outlaw abortion and that's just a scare tactic by the left (anyways, Trump is basically a social liberal, having grown up in ny).
anyways, my father (a republican who opposed trump) and i have had some good debates about trump and i wrote this to him, the day trump was elected (anything you disagree with, humbert?).
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Since Trump won, time for Brooks to retreat for a while (at least a year) and be ready to eat some crow if Trump does well:
1. by pleasing evangelicals and most Republicans (supreme court appointments who are strict constructionists)
2.1 by pleasing Democrats by not totally dismantling obama care, keeping "prior conditions" and "kids stay on parents plan".
2..2 by pleasing Republicans, America needs a one payer like England or a totally free competitive market for insurance where capitalism brings the prices down. Sanders didn't win the presidency and congress so America won't have a single payer system.
3. by pleasing democrats by supporting infrastructure development
4. by pleasing democrats by not going after abortion (leave it up to the supreme court). Trump's really a liberal deep down when it comes to social issues.
5. by pleasing democrats by not reducing entitlements (trump states that in his campaign)
6. by pleasing republicans by using the line item veto (trump would love that coming from the construction industry) to eliminate waste from the budget.
7. by pleasing republicans by taking out ISIS (while not pleasing the neocons by working with Iran, Syira and Russia to do so) and putting Saudi Arabia and gulf countries on notice that supporting ISIS and alqueda groups in syria and iraq won't be tolerated.....period (even if the CIA was previously working with Saudi to support those groups).
8. by pleasing democrats on the left like Elizabeth Warren and some on the right by improving trade deals to not only benefit the u.s. chamber of commerce.
9. by pleasing democrats and republicans by finally settling the immigration issue by building the wall (and electronic surveillance in places, etc.) which republicans in congress have been calling for for years before they agree to legalize the illegals already in america. how many illegals can stay will be the debate, of course.
10. by pleasing republicans by lowering regulations, lowering corporate taxes (to bring back the trillions off shore) and simplifying the tax code and putting many out of business on k street (lobbyists) and unfortunately many tax attorneys/accountants.
11. by doing many of the above, the country improves overall, especially the eonomy and the job situation, congress is relatively happy and the grumpy guys like David Brooks will stop sucking on sour grapes and start eating crow!
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some good commentary from peggy noonan (speech writer for reagan), wsj:
full article: President Trump Declares Independence - WSJ
And so, now, it begins. And it simply has to be repeated: We have never had a political moment like this in our lives. We have never had a president like this, such a norm-breaker, in all the ways we know. We are in uncharted seas.
His supporters, who flooded Washington this week, were friendly, courteous—but watchful. Two Midwestern women told me separately that they used to be but no longer are Republican. They’re something new, waiting for a name.
They like Mr. Trump the way you learn to like someone you hired and will depend on. They judged him as exactly what’s needed to cut through the merde machine of modern Washington. He is a destabilizer; he shifts the tectonic plates; in the chaos that results, breakthroughs are possible.
And yet all admit that yes, we’re in uncharted waters.
At the Kuwaiti Embassy I looked out at hundreds of Washingtonians of both parties—diplomats, lobbyists, military brass, journalists—all networking, meeting, greeting, all handsomely dressed. As I surveyed the scene I turned to a social figure of 40 years’ standing. “Do they have any sense they’re living through big history?” I asked. “Noooooo!” she said. The look on her face—if it had been the late 19th century she would have said, “Pshaw!” History is not what they’re about, she was suggesting; satisfying their personal and immediate hungers is what they’re about.
The Trump Wars of the past 18 months do not now go away. Now it becomes the Trump Civil War, every day, with Democrats trying to get rid of him and half the country pushing back. To reduce it to the essentials: As long as Mr. Trump’s party holds the House, it will be a standoff. If the Democrats take the House, they will move to oust him.
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