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US presidential candidate Donald Trump has joked that if he were a woman, he’d probably want to wear a burqa instead of having to worry about putting on make-up.



CNN says Trump was talking to a crowd in New Hampshire about America's regular interventions in the Middle East when he launched into jokes about why women might want to cover themselves in public.


"I saw a woman interviewed. They said 'We want to wear them, we've worn them for a thousand years. Why would anybody tell us not?' They want to!" Trump said. "What the hell are we getting involved for?"


Trump went on, saying: "Fact is, it's easy (to wear the burqa.) You don't have to put on makeup, look how beautiful everyone looks," he said, pointing to the laughing audience.


"Wouldn't it be easier? Right? Wouldn't that be easy? I'll tell ya, if I was a woman I’d want to."

Donald Trump would wear a burqa instead of make-up if he were a woman

So what stops people voting 5 times?

Originally Posted by baconandeggs

So what stops people voting 5 times?

The punishment I would assume.

There have only ever been a handful of cases of in person voter fraud ever recorded.

It's just a ploy by the republicans to make it harder for likely democratic voters to actually be able to vote.

And they admit it too.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by RPETER65

And how are they making it more difficult for blacks to vote?

Seriously, do you live in a cave?

Republicans will do *anything* to try and win.

Update, Sunday, October 19: On Saturday, the Supreme Court upheld Texas' "discriminatory" voter ID law, potentially disenfranchising some 600,000 largely minority voters ahead of the midterms.

Update, Wednesday, October 15: After a federal trial court struck down Texas' "discriminatory" new voter ID law last week, a federal appeals court ruled on Tuesday that the state can enforce the restrictive law after all in November. Opponents of the law may file an emergency appeal to the Supreme Court.

On Thursday evening, two separate courts blocked restrictive voter ID laws in Wisconsin and Texas that could have disenfranchised hundreds of thousands of mostly black and Latino voters in the upcoming November midterm elections.

Both states' laws would have required voters to provide photo identification before casting their ballots. Such laws reduce minority and youth turnout, according to a Government Accountability Office study released Wednesday.

On Thursday, the Supreme Court issued an emergency order blocking a voter ID law Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker signed in 2011. The court cited no reason for its move, which is common for emergency orders. Voting rights advocates challenging the law had charged that if it were in effect in November it would "virtually guarantee chaos at the polls," the New York Times reported, as the state would not have enough time to issue IDs and train poll workers before the election. There are about 300,000 registered voters in Wisconsin who lack an ID. Most of them are black or Hispanic.

Also on Thursday, a federal trial court in Texas struck down that state’s voter ID law, ruling that it overly burdened minority voters, who are less likely to have a government-issued ID, and as such violated the Voting Rights Act. More than 600,000 registered voters in Texas lack appropriate IDs.

The move by the Supreme Court reverses a recent trend by the high court upholding voting restrictions. The court upheld a law in Ohio that cut down on early voting, as well as a measure North Carolina enacted in 2013 eliminating same-day registration and banning the counting of ballots accidentally cast at the wrong precinct.

Both Texas and Wisconsin had claimed their laws would crack down on voter fraud. Confirmed instances of in-person voter fraud are rarer than UFO sightings.

The Supreme Court Just Blocked Scott Walker's Voter ID Law | Mother Jones

No seriously you have no answere to the question do you, and your copy and post is no answer it says nothing about why minorities would be less likely to have or cannot obtain ID'S.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by baconandeggs

So what stops people voting 5 times?

The punishment I would assume.

There have only ever been a handful of cases of in person voter fraud ever recorded.

It's just a ploy by the republicans to make it harder for likely democratic voters to actually be able to vote.

And they admit it too.

Who admits it, names please or are you just blowing smoke out of your ass.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Maybe you could enlighten me as to how obtaining an ID would be more difficult for a black citizen than any other citizen. RPETER65 is online now Add to RPETER65's Reputation Report Post

Alabama Punishes All Voters And Drivers By Closing DMV Offices

The first phase in Alabama was passing a strict voter ID law. The second phase was to close down more than 90 percent of DMV offices. The third phase may involve restricting voting to just four spots, unless the trend is reversed. And your state may be the next one to emulate Alabama.
Slashing funding to the Alabama Law Enforcement Agency (ALEA) involves draconian budget cuts that would eventually eliminate 45 of 49 driver's license offices. For a state with one of the lowest voting rates in the country, that trend is sure to continue its decline.
Former New York Senator and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton raised the concern during a campaign stop in Birmingham, Alabama, pointing out that many of the targeted offices are in areas where poor blacks live. And Congresswoman Terri Sewell raised the issue with the Department of Justice to investigate, but given the recent gutting of the Voting Rights Act by the Supreme Court (Shelby County v. Holder, which is an Alabama case, by the way), that avenue seems less likely to bear fruit.

The measure has been described as a cost-saving measure, but unless the state is cutting 92 percent of their drivers, it doesn't make sense to cut 92 percent of its DMV offices. It just means longer lines at the DMV offices that stay open.
Evidence shows that some folks may have to drive up to 186 miles to reach the nearest DMV. I am sure critics will say that's just a three-hour drive, but going back and forth makes it a six hour swing, to say nothing of the line you might face when you get there. Our rural Georgia DMV branch always has people waiting in line when I go there.
And if you live in one of the four spots lucky enough to keep a DMV, you'll have to get in line behind everyone whose DMV office closed and drove a long way to get there. Forget renewing your license during your lunch break.
In an attempt to ward off criticism, Governor Robert Bentley offered the possibility that the DMV office would open up for one day a month in each of the exiting 49 branches. See my earlier comments about lines and costs for how this idea might go over.
But aren't other Southern states doing the same thing? Not today. There are 44 DMV offices in Tennessee, 66 in South Carolina, at least one in all 67 counties in Florida, 98 in Mississippi and plenty more in Georgia (my students looked these up before class).
For the record, as someone who lives right next door to East Alabama and has relatives in Central Alabama, I know that some of those affected areas also include poor rural whites who tend to vote conservative. What's two hours on Mapquest is not two hours on those back roads, if you've ever driven them. It also targets college students in Auburn and at the University of Alabama, which includes liberal and conservative students. In fact, students of ours who are residents of Alabama but attend college here in Georgia were the ones who brought the issue to my attention.
Each of those groups pose a threat to the new governing establishment in the Alabama legislature, either in a general election or in a GOP party primary. If you can force someone to drive six hours to get a voter ID just to cast a ballot, what's keeping you from requiring someone to drive a similar length just to vote on Election Day?
For anyone living in Alabama, or states considering emulating Alabama, it's time to call your legislator, before you have to drive 186 miles and back to vote for or against that person.


Alabama Punishes All Voters And Drivers By Closing DMV Offices[at]|[at]John A. Tures

So actually no one has been singled out by race, as all people and races face the same problem.

Originally Posted by baconandeggs

So what stops people voting 5 times?

We have voter registration cards. Use it once for an election and it's tallied. Can't use it again for the same election.

Voter registration cards are used a valid ID for most business purposes, even though they don't have a photo. Telling that after all these years the Republicans want people to have a driver's licence in addition to it in order to vote.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by baconandeggs

So what stops people voting 5 times?

The punishment I would assume.

There have only ever been a handful of cases of in person voter fraud ever recorded.

It's just a ploy by the republicans to make it harder for likely democratic voters to actually be able to vote.

And they admit it too.

Who admits it, names please or are you just blowing smoke out of your ass.

I'll start you off with Jim Greer and Judge Posner and I fart in your general direction.

Former Republican Party of Florida Chairman Jim Greer told the Palm Beach Post that a new law that curbed early voting was intended to hurt Democratic politicians and help GOP candidates win.

“The Republican Party, the strategists, the consultants, they firmly believe that early voting is bad for Republican Party candidates,” Greer said. “It’s done for one reason and one reason only.…‘We’ve got to cut down on early voting because early voting is not good for us.’”

“They never came in to see me and tell me we had a (voter) fraud issue,” Greer added. “It’s all a marketing ploy.”

The conservative judge appointed by Ronald Reagan to the federal Court of Appeals initially heard a pivotal case on voter IDs in Indiana back in 2005. At the time, Posner ruled against the challenge that the law would disenfranchise voters, finding that argument unfounded.

Years later, however, Posner has changed his tune. This year, he admitted his ruling was a mistake. He now says his colleague, Judge Terence T. Evans, was “right” in his dissent: “Let’s not beat around the bush: The Indiana voter photo ID Law is a not-too-thinly-veiled attempt to discourage election-day turnout by certain folks believed to skew Democratic.”

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by baconandeggs

So what stops people voting 5 times?

The punishment I would assume.

There have only ever been a handful of cases of in person voter fraud ever recorded.

It's just a ploy by the republicans to make it harder for likely democratic voters to actually be able to vote.

And they admit it too.

And you have proof of this?

If no one is recording things or checking id it could have been done thousands of times.

Originally Posted by misskit

Originally Posted by baconandeggs

So what stops people voting 5 times?

We have voter registration cards. Use it once for an election and it's tallied. Can't use it again for the same election.

Voter registration cards are used a valid ID for most business purposes, even though they don't have a photo. Telling that after all these years the Republicans want people to have a driver's licence in addition to it in order to vote.

So a person could give their card to someone else or sell them

Originally Posted by baconandeggs

So a person could give their card to someone else or sell them

I guess so, but I have never heard of it. It would be like selling your birth certificate or social security card. We need those things for ID.

Originally Posted by misskit

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Could you please share proof on a couple of your statements? 1. Republican Party tries to dilute the black vote. 2. Midwesterners appalled a black man was voted in as president.

I was indeed referring to gerrymandering. Already explained above.

The Midwest is nearly as bad as the South for racism. I thought this was common knowledge. You can read here about the last election and the circulation of racist tweets afterwards as an example of what Midwesterners think of Obama. Which States Sent The Most Racist Tweets After The Election?

Looking at the map from your link it appears the mid west not quite so much, and I have to ask the question how many tweets and what percentage of the population is posting these racists tweets, my guess would be not many, just a bunch of dumb asses.

Originally Posted by misskit

Originally Posted by baconandeggs

So a person could give their card to someone else or sell them

I guess so, but I have never heard of it. It would be like selling your birth certificate or social security card. We need those things for ID.

Why would a poor person care for a voting card? A box of beer would be more attractive to some. What adults dont have id cards anyway? Are homeless people voting?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by baconandeggs

So what stops people voting 5 times?

The punishment I would assume.

There have only ever been a handful of cases of in person voter fraud ever recorded.

It's just a ploy by the republicans to make it harder for likely democratic voters to actually be able to vote.

And they admit it too.

Who admits it, names please or are you just blowing smoke out of your ass.

I'll start you off with Jim Greer and Judge Posner and I fart in your general direction.

Former Republican Party of Florida Chairman Jim Greer told the Palm Beach Post that a new law that curbed early voting was intended to hurt Democratic politicians and help GOP candidates win.

“The Republican Party, the strategists, the consultants, they firmly believe that early voting is bad for Republican Party candidates,” Greer said. “It’s done for one reason and one reason only.…‘We’ve got to cut down on early voting because early voting is not good for us.’”

“They never came in to see me and tell me we had a (voter) fraud issue,” Greer added. “It’s all a marketing ploy.”

The conservative judge appointed by Ronald Reagan to the federal Court of Appeals initially heard a pivotal case on voter IDs in Indiana back in 2005. At the time, Posner ruled against the challenge that the law would disenfranchise voters, finding that argument unfounded.

Years later, however, Posner has changed his tune. This year, he admitted his ruling was a mistake. He now says his colleague, Judge Terence T. Evans, was “right” in his dissent: “Let’s not beat around the bush: The Indiana voter photo ID Law is a not-too-thinly-veiled attempt to discourage election-day turnout by certain folks believed to skew Democratic.”

Doesn't sound to me like some one trying to discourage voting but some one trying to expose the possibility, I give Greer's statement little credibility.

^ You sir are beyond stupid. The young will not settle for your absurd views.

^^So you demand evidence and then dismiss it out of hand because it's contrary to what you want to believe.

*Facepalm*

Originally Posted by baconandeggs

Why would a poor person care for a voting card?

So he can vote.

Originally Posted by baconandeggs

A box of beer would be more attractive to some.

And one needs ID to buy it.

Originally Posted by baconandeggs

Are homeless people voting?

If they have a voter ID.


The problem is, Alabama is one state which doesn't have photos on their state voter registration ID. They now want voters to have a photo ID, a state drivers license, along with their registration card to vote. Then they close the driver's license offices in eight counties where Blacks are concentrated.

Whether it is intentional or not, it is disproportionately affecting Blacks and looks bad.

Originally Posted by misskit

Originally Posted by baconandeggs

So what stops people voting 5 times?

We have voter registration cards. Use it once for an election and it's tallied. Can't use it again for the same election.

Voter registration cards are used a valid ID for most business purposes, even though they don't have a photo. Telling that after all these years the Republicans want people to have a driver's licence in addition to it in order to vote.

Actually picture, state issued ID

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

^^So you demand evidence and then dismiss it out of hand because it's contrary to what you want to believe.

*Facepalm*

No I am not dismissing it out of hand, read it and then tell me it sounds like someone who is backing voter ID, duh.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

^^So you demand evidence and then dismiss it out of hand because it's contrary to what you want to believe.

*Facepalm*

No I am not dismissing it out of hand, read it and then tell me it sounds like someone who is backing voter ID, duh.

What we are talking about is Republicans acting fraudulently to "resolve" a problem that does not exist - when their real intent is to deny democrats their voting rights one way or the other.

Good luck, if they think it's going to be that close.

Dirty tricks like that only serve to motivate people.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

^^So you demand evidence and then dismiss it out of hand because it's contrary to what you want to believe.

*Facepalm*

No I am not dismissing it out of hand, read it and then tell me it sounds like someone who is backing voter ID, duh.

What we are talking about is Republicans acting fraudulently to "resolve" a problem that does not exist - when their real intent is to deny democrats their voting rights one way or the other.

Good luck, if they think it's going to be that close.

Dirty tricks like that only serve to motivate people.

And you actually think if some how legal voters were kept from voting because of the need for a picture ID it would amount to enough to sway an election you are delusional.

It is compulsory to vote in Australia- and you are fined if you don't. Perhaps if this universal suffrage law were introduced to the USA, thus every citizen would have the legal obligation to vote, this voter registration nonsense might be thrown out the window. Sound fair, RPeter?

Originally Posted by RPETER65

And you actually think if some how legal voters were kept from voting because of the need for a picture ID it would amount to enough to sway an election you are delusional.

Ask the GOP, they're the ones who think so.

Duh.

Originally Posted by sabang

It is compulsory to vote in Australia- and you are fined if you don't. Perhaps if this universal suffrage law were introduced to the USA, thus every citizen would have the legal obligation to vote, this voter registration nonsense might be thrown out the window. Sound fair, RPeter?

Easier still, just allow for same day registration, register automatically when you get a driver's licensce, student ID, pay your taxes, or any other of a myriad of things. Everybody's registered to vote and no new law forcing people to do anything.

Originally Posted by bsnub

You sir are beyond stupid

He certainly is. And you, your house is right next to his, way, way beyond stupid.
On the outskirts of windowlickerville.

Great climate though