I don't believe it is. But if i'm wrong, the answer is Iran.Quote:
Originally Posted by alitongkat
I believe it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by alitongkat
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I don't believe it is. But if i'm wrong, the answer is Iran.Quote:
Originally Posted by alitongkat
I believe it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by alitongkat
Because Assad supports Hizbollah and the fall of the regime in Syria is just another step on the planned fall to the regime in Iran also another Israeli target.Quote:
Originally Posted by alitongkat
as if hizbollah was a threat... :rolleyes:
Obviously it is to Israel, try reading the news..Quote:
Originally Posted by alitongkat
syria, hezbollah are no threats to israel...
assad is actually the best thing, that can happen to israel - a dictator who keeps the place with a strong hand (down)...
he even doesnt whine about golan or whatever...
neither syria nor hezbullah plan(ned) to attack israel...
and if iran wanted to attack israel, they certainly wouldnt need syria nor hezbullah...
iran also repeatedly clarified, that it didnt want to attack israel...
The Israeli government disagree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by alitongkat
While senior security establishment officials vehemently warn against the ramifications of a military strike on Iran's nuclear facilities, security and government assessments indicate that the biggest threat to Israel is a deadly response from Iran's ally Hezbollah, whose leader Hassan Nasrallah has previously warned that its missiles and rockets could strike anywhere inside the Jewish state.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...265026,00.html
israel is plastered with anti-missile systems...
also, it would be more effective to - when its about time - drop a bomb or two on the hezbullah weapon stores...
i believe, israel knows where they are - if they indeed have anything...
just because someone in lebanon blethers cheeky on the tv, what is btw not really breaking news, its no reason to overthrow a regime - which in fact is quite convinient for israel and the US...
You having a problem reading? I just posted my evidence that the Israeli government think Hizbollah are a threat..end of story.Quote:
Originally Posted by alitongkat
Israels only real threats are internal.
The Israeli government disagrees with you as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
but it could be thinkable, that destroying the syrian ARMY could be beneficial when striking irans nuclear facilities...
lets be honest, they wouldnt stand the slightest chance against israel...
jordan wouldnt attack and lebanon is also not really a state of the art military camp...
egypt wouldnt strike, even though nobody gives a flying about the peace treaty, nobody gives a flying about iran either...
^^ See how much they scrounge off the rest of the civilised world every year? (u need to dig deep) The answer lies within. This Ghetto Mentality has paid, and it should be stopped for the sake of Israel as an ongoing nation.
the only reason why israel might seek trouble - as iran-trouble didnt really pan out - is, the settlement policy, which would be certainly postponed by a war...
but ON THE GROUND there is actually no threat, that would need to get involvement (as in toppling assad...)...
and if the rebels take over, they wont have anything to attack, as army wont be fully behind them, nor will there (in this case) any much left of it...
the only threat is currently the peace-negotations..
hezbullah, assad, iran - are no threats to israel...
That is not a threat at all- it is a promise. I want to see Israel accepted among the first rank of world nations, but to do so it must act like a first world country. It will eventually anyway, but the one state solution is not the preference of the vast majority of Israeli's.Quote:
Originally Posted by alitongkat
^^Yes because the first requirement for being considered a first world country is to do as you are told by the UN and allow the "international community" to determine the course of your foreign and domestic policy.
:)
dunno what you want, sabang...
peace-negotiations are an ENORMOUS threat to israel...
and the current government will do ALL AND EVERYTHING to avoid them...
I think the US screwed up (Obama & his supporters) by getting involved in Egypt's civil war. Now every two-bit country in the world will start having "civil wars" so the US will step in and help them overthrow the current, corrupt government so they can replace it with their own (rebel) corrupt leaders.
Staying out of Syria is the best course of action IMO.
RickThai
1- palestinians to be granted their human rights (1/2 state, i don't care)Quote:
Originally Posted by alitongkat
2- israel to be accepted among the rank of first world nations.
clear enuff?
Israel could be a force for good, if they got outta this damn ghetto mentality.
Funniest shit I have heard for a long time.:smileylaughing:Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
^^THATS NOTHING NEW, WHAT THEY SAY...
every other week there is another "threat"... always, years, daily, weekly...
please YOU read the newspapers for a while...
they can call hezbollah a threat for the 1000st time in 10 years, but it doesnt explain why assad has to fall... :rolleyes:
^^ It could be. But it isn't.
It never ever has been and it never ever will, that's my opinion.Its a western colony on someone elses land.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
Palestine does want to become a UN member state. And it will, be that via Israel or a combined state. Only a question of time.
And if you think you can wish away some 5.5mm Palestinians living in Palestine & Israel, or pretend they do not exist, then who are you trying to fool? This has never happened in world history, and never will.
Well well wellQuote:
Originally Posted by alitongkat
Ali talking sense
Has her account been hacked ? :)
Talking about threats left right and center are often due to domestic politics
And you do have to justify the enormous millitary budget in Israel to the population
Hizbollah, Assad and Iran are appreciated in Pentagon and the american arms industry aswell
Same all over actually; if you haven't got any enemies, you'll have to invent some
Are you aware that Israel posseses a couple of umbrellas ?
The threat to Israel is that she will lose friends in the west, and get isolated
Are they proven to stop hi tech missiles? I do not mean $5 home made ones from Hamas.Quote:
Originally Posted by helge
They are a minor threat, cause they have base in an unstable countryQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo
If I was in charge in Israel, I would have preferred Assad to be in Lebanon today, but the french screwed that up for Israel
How do you think the israelies felt about the Brotherhood in Egypt taken over ?
They prefered Mubarak. A stable dictatorship
NonoQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo
Not a shield. More mushroom like
Is the english word 'deterence ?
My point was that they are a threat be it minor or otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by helge
Ok
So, let's say Assad is a minor threat too
If the Assad regime falls, who will take power ?
Probably no one, but two or more fractions of the resistance will fight it out iraqi style, and it might spill into Lebanon
Not in Israels interest.
You can say what you want to, I never said Assad was a threat,I just said he is friends with Iran and Hizbollah. My point was Hizbollah were a threat when another poster said they were not. The Syrian civil war has already spilled into the Lebanon. Israel has already bombed Syria,obviously they do not drop bombs on people if they do not think it is in their interests.Quote:
Originally Posted by helge
Didn't know thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo
Not the 'nuclear place' in the desert from a few years back ?
Anyway
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Originally Posted by helge
They bombed Syria a few months ago..and lied about their reasons for doing it which was exposed in the NYT newspaper last week I believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by helge
http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...sm?view=mobile
I cannot get a link to the NYT article,its paywalled
NYT exposing lies ?
Well I never :)
Yes it is new for them.:smileylaughing:Quote:
Originally Posted by helge
U.S. military confirms rebels had sarin
Classified document shows deadly weapon found in home of arrested Islamists
As part of the Obama administration’s repeated insistence – though without offering proof – that the recent sarin gas attack near Damascus was the work of the Assad regime, the administration has downplayed or denied the possibility that al-Qaida-linked Syrian rebels could produce deadly chemical weapons.
However, in a classified document just obtained by WND, the U.S. military confirms that sarin was confiscated earlier this year from members of the Jabhat al-Nusra Front, the most influential of the rebel Islamists fighting in Syria.
The document says sarin from al-Qaida in Iraq made its way into Turkey and that while some was seized, more could have been used in an attack last March on civilians and Syrian military soldiers in Aleppo.
The document, classified Secret/Noforn – “Not for foreign distribution” – came from the U.S. intelligence community’s National Ground Intelligence Center, or NGIC, and was made available to WND Tuesday.
It revealed that AQI had produced a “bench-scale” form of sarin in Iraq and then transferred it to Turkey.
A U.S. military source said there were a number of interrogations as well as some clan reports as part of what the document said were “50 general indicators to monitor progress and characterize the state of the ANF/AQI-associated Sarin chemical warfare agent developing effort.”
“This (document) depicts our assessment of the status of effort at its peak – primarily research and procurement activities – when disrupted in late May 2013 with the arrest of several key individuals in Iraq and Turkey,” the document said.
“Future reporting of indicators not previously observed would suggest that the effort continues to advance despite the arrests,” the NGIC document said.
The May 2013 seizure occurred when Turkish security forces discovered a two-kilogram cylinder with sarin gas while searching homes of Syrian militants from the al-Qaida-linked Jabhat al-Nusra Front following their initial detention.
The sarin gas was found in the homes of suspected Syrian Islamic radicals detained in the southern provinces of Adana and Mersia.
Some 12 suspected members of the al-Nusra Front were arrested. At the time, they were described by Turkish special anti-terror forces as the “most aggressive and successful arm” of the Syrian rebels.
U.S. military confirms rebels had sarin
And he came close to becoming el Presidente. Says much.Quote:
Originally Posted by ltnt
didn't stop them taking out SaddamQuote:
Originally Posted by alitongkat
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Originally Posted by Norton
don't forget:
Wilco - War On War (Letterman) - YouTube
A most excellent interview with President Obama on ABC News:
'This Week' Exclusive Interview: President Obama on Syria | Video - ABC News
“I’m less concerned about style points. I’m much more concerned with getting the policy right,” said Obama
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