They did that to teach Saddam's arch-enemy, Iran, a lesson. Worked out great, for Iran.Quote:
Originally Posted by good2bhappy
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They did that to teach Saddam's arch-enemy, Iran, a lesson. Worked out great, for Iran.Quote:
Originally Posted by good2bhappy
Insulting statement. Pure hogwash. He's interested in selling his next backflip on previous statements of so called "Policy."Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyBKK
Obama waives ban on arming terrorists to allow aid to Syrian opposition
http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama-...rticle/2535885
The America-hating, white-hating, Jew-hating Muslim Socialist in the White House has finally dispensed with the pretence and come clean about where his sympathies lie and just how determined he is to help the cause of Allah in his remaining term.
By waiving the ban to arm the Jihadists in Syria, Obama confesses that
a) as Putin said, Kerry did indeed lie about "arming just the 'moderates'"
b) he, Obama, knows they are Jihadi terrorists
c) he, Obama, is determined to arm them anyway.
Note that the Arms Control Export Act allows the sitting President to waive prohibitions against arming terrorists if he "determines that the transaction is essential to the national security interests of the United States."
Any of our resident retards care to comment on how arming the MB, AQ and assorted avowed terrorist outfits in Syria is essential to those national security interests?
Now a report which suggests most of the rebels are, or affiliated with " Jihadists and members of hardline Islamist groups".
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"That speculation is now fact according to extracts from a British defense study published in Monday's Daily Telegraph, according to which Jihadists and members of hardline Islamist groups make up almost half of forces fighting against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. As AFP reported, the analysis by defense consultancy IHS Jane's, due to be published in full later this week, puts the number of rebel forces at around 100,000."
Half of Syria rebels are hardline Islamists: study
And as we know these can switch sides depending on their current sponsor.
Doesn't matter, Obama needs to secure his 72 underage girlies.
LOL, if Obama's for it, the Rethuglicans have to oppose it. Another perfect example of a "blacktrack".
The right wing seems to suffer collective amnesia, forgetting that they supported Senator McCain's repeated calls to arm the Syrian rebels.
McCain has been an outspoken voice for arming the opposition Free Syrian Army with better weapons and was able to add language to the Senate resolution emphasizing the goal of shifting the momentum on the battlefield against Assad.
McCain: Most Syrian rebels are moderates
"U.S. Sen. John McCain remains confident that the Syrian people and most of the opposition in Syria’s bloody civil war have moderate instincts and would not allow al-Qaida and other extremists to gain a foothold in the government should President Bashar Assad’s regime collapse."
http://www.azcentral.com/news/politi...cain-says.html
I think McCain is dead wrong, but find the right's hypocritical faux outrage at President Obama's diplomatic solution which avoids military intervention in Syria to be rather ironic.
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Must have looted a stock of regular Syrian uniforms, but I guess the footwear and beards give them away.Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
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It just keeps getting better. :rolleyes:
Syrian National Coalition, Main Opposition Group, Slams Al Qaeda-Linked Rebels As Extremists
The statement from Syrian National Coalition comes as a truce was reached late Thursday after two days of vicious infighting in which the extremists seized control of the northern town of Azaz, near the border with Turkey, from mainstream opposition fighters. The fighting prompted Turkey to close a major nearby crossing point.
The SNC said the actions of the al-Qaida-linked fighters "counter the principals that the Syrian revolution is trying to achieve" in its battle against President Bashar Assad's regime.
Syrians are "moderate and respect religious and political pluralism while rejecting blind extremism," the SNC said.
The statement also warned that the Islamic fighters are "strengthening their positions" in opposition-controlled areas after they stopped fighting regime forces on several front lines.
Syrian National Coalition, Main Opposition Group, Slams Al Qaeda-Linked Rebels As Extremists
The dwindling amount of moderates still fighting with the opposition, well I couldn't give you an accurate number, but many of them seem to be fighting Al Qaeda now, not the regime. Likewise the Kurds. Al Qaeda is digging in, cementing it's luvly grip over the areas it controls. Oh what a surprise- exactly what happened in Iraq. :rolleyes:
There will be a lot more blood shed ridding poor Syria of Al Qaeda.
Not to worry, US arms manufacturers are still making a shit load of money supplying these people thru their Qatar and Saudi proxies and remember they are only Arabs dying not Americans.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
videos uploaded to the YouTube and LiveLeak websites this week claim to show opposition forces launching the 21 August attack on the Damascus suburb of Ghouta. They were swiftly picked up by media outlets in countries allied to Syria, including state-owned TV channel Russia Today.
The poor-quality videos show men standing around an artillery vehicle, wearing what appear to be gas masks, with the cannon's barrel draped in large black flags bearing Islamic symbols and the name of rebel group Liwa al-Islam. In one video, a man mentions the group and - after one blast - the men chant "Allahu Akbar", or "God is great". Liwa al-Islam eventually released a statement declaring the videos to be "completely fabricated" and blaming the Assad government which, it says, is the only force in Syria in possession of the weapons shown in the video. But only after several days of examination by bloggers.
for Kerry and his friends, it wouldn't matter if you had live feed showing the opposition shooting those CW, it wouldn't change a thing for them, it would still be Assad
they are not interested in facts or truth, only in strategic projections of their "grand ME agenda"
Obama has been very weak on foreign affairs, for some reasons he has nominated those 2 dead beats, Clinton and Kerry, both attention whore and agenda carrying individuals.
You think that's bad, Buttplug, we've nominated Tony Blair and they all hate him.
:rofl:
Did Obama Stumble Into A Perfect Diplomatic Solution To Syria, Or Did He Mastermind It?
https://teakdoor.com/images/smilies1/You_Rock_Emoticon.gifWe thought Obama’s stance on Syria was crazy. Now it looks like he’s playing a long game. If it pans out, he’ll finally deserve that Nobel Peace Prize. Photo of President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden from PolicyMic.Com
Tony Blair is a typical delusional BritQuote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
kind of feel bad for the guy, full of good intentions, but all talk and no action
very British, even too British
he got bailed by Putin after Kerry tried to sandbag him,Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyBKK
No, he got Putin to promise a deal Assad will never keep. Now it's Putin having to change his tack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Butterfly
Bloviate is more the operative term here...:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
I wonder how long before the Syrian army snipers open fire on them?
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Plan: Syria arsenal inspections by Tuesday
The Associated Press
THE HAGUE, Netherlands — The inspectors responsible for tracking down Syria's chemical arms stockpile and verifying its destruction plan to start work in Syria by Tuesday. They will face their tightest deadlines ever and work right in the heart of a war zone, according to a draft decision obtained Friday by The Associated Press.
The decision is the key to any U.N. resolution on Syria's chemical weapons program.
The five permanent members of the deeply divided U.N. Security Council reached agreement Thursday on a resolution to eliminate Syria's chemical weapons. A vote depends on how soon the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, which is to meet Friday evening at its headquarters in The Hague, can adopt its plan for securing and destroying Syria's stockpile.
The draft agreed upon by Russia, China, the United States, France and Britain includes two legally binding demands — that Syria abandons its chemical stockpile and allows unfettered access to the chemical weapons experts.
If Syria fails to comply, the draft says the Security Council would need to adopt a second resolution to impose possible military and other actions on Damascus.
Nonetheless, after 2 ½ years of paralysis, the agreement represents a breakthrough for the Security Council and rare unity between Russia, which supports Syrian President Bashar Assad's government, and the United States, which backs the opposition.
The proposal to be discussed Friday by the OPCW would allow inspectors into any site suspected of chemical weapons involvement even if Syria's government did not identify the location. That gives the inspectors unusually broad authority.
The draft calls for the organization's secretariat to start inspections "as soon as possible and no later than" Tuesday and it lays out the target of destroying all of Syria's chemical weapons and equipment by the first half of 2014.
In an indication of the enormity of the task ahead, the organization also appealed for donations to fund the disarmament, saying it will have to hire new weapons inspectors and chemical experts.
Once the plan is approved, it gives Damascus a week to give detailed information on its arsenal, including the name and quantity of all chemicals in its stockpile; the type of and quantity of munitions that can be used to fire chemical weapons and the location of weapons, storage facilities and production facilities. The destruction of all chemical weapons production and mixing equipment has to be completed no later than Nov. 1.
The decision calls on Syria to "cooperate fully with all aspects of the implementation of this decision" and let the inspectors examine any location they choose.
The diplomatic push to find some agreement on Syria was triggered by an Aug. 21 poison gas attack that killed hundreds of civilians in a Damascus suburb and President Barack Obama's subsequent threat to use military force.
When U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said Assad could avert U.S. military action by turning over "every single bit of his chemical weapons" to international control within a week, Russia quickly agreed.
Kerry and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov signed an agreement in Geneva on Sept. 13 to put Syria's chemical weapons under international control for later destruction. Assad's government accepted the deal and quickly signed up to Chemical Weapons Convention that is policed by the Hague-based OPCW.
Meanwhile, a group of international war crimes experts is calling for the creation of a war crimes court in Damascus to try top-ranking Syrian politicians and soldiers when the country's civil war ends.
The war that began in March 2011 has so far claimed more than 100,000 lives in Syria and forced hundreds of thousands to flee the violence, according to the U.N.
^Not soon enough imo.
So you are rooting for the Syrian government to open fire on unarmed weapons inspectors? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by ltnt
^Why not? They have no business there imo. My personal "Red Line." Keep the fucking UN inspectors on a leash and keep them in pens that serve to safeguard humanity from bureaucrats who fight wars on paper.
BTW, Whats an weapons inspector worth these days?
Not the Al Qaeda jihadists? You can be sure there have been war crimes on both sides, but I haven't heard of the regime carrying out public beheadings & burnings, or ethnic cleansing on religious grounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
US Secretary of State John Kerry said the UN demonstrated that "diplomacy can be so powerful that it can peacefully defuse the worst weapons of war".
gives a new meaning to the word u-turn
They have business there because Assad said they have.Quote:
Originally Posted by ltnt
So I don't suppose your opinion really matters a jot.
jesus, what a flip flop cretinQuote:
Originally Posted by good2bhappy
saying that with a straight face after being on record for saying he didn't want the UN involved and would need to go to war without any international mandate
Actually Harry, you're wrong. If I held a gun to your head would you refuse inspectors? I dare say your answer would be bring a whole cart load.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Whose going to destroy all those nasty little chemical weapons? Russia no doubt. Out one door and back in the other.
Futile efforts by the UN to play cop again.
Anyone have a clue what happened to Sadam's WMD?
Dunno, many experts presume cos they never found any that the "cupboard" was bare ,however many people thought that Saddam shipped them off to Syria , I mean lets have it right he had plenty of time did'nt he :) Interesting article http://www.examiner.com/article/syri...s-missing-wmdsQuote:
Originally Posted by leemo
Imagine that, he sent them over the border to his mate in Syria?
Anyway the Saviour doesn't need to intervene in Syria, all he has to do is stay out and let Qatar and Saudi supply the terrorists.
I'm sure these local proxies for US generosity towards AQ are gobsmacked that their weapons reached the Jihadists...
Officials: Al Qaeda Seized U.S. Supplies and Foreign Weapons Meant for Syria Opposition | TheBlaze.com
Yeah truly mind boggling eh :)Quote:
Originally Posted by leemo
There is no gun to Assad's head. The Russians proposed this deal to remove it, and have at least created the impression that Assad agreed to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ltnt
If he's lying, he gets bombed.
Not that hard to understand, is it?
He sent a nice thank you letter to the USA for supplying them and then gassed 5,000 people.Quote:
Originally Posted by leemo
If they fought wars without paper then they wouldn't be bureaucrats any more though would they? Nice Catch 22...Quote:
Originally Posted by ltnt
You forget, Bureaucrats never run out of "Gas." Paper only serves to impress some form of "Right by Law." Blowing smoke endlessly is their profession and only purpose in life.Quote:
Originally Posted by quimbian corholla
More like Parasites than humans.
Hey, Britain and America, just a reminder that your pals are doing a really good job for you in Syria-
Syria: massacre reports emerge from Assad's Alawite heartland
"When we got into the village of Balouta I saw a baby's head hanging from a tree. There was a woman's body which had been sliced in half from head to toe and each half was hanging from separate apple trees. It made me feel I wanted to do something wild," he recalled.
Ali, a member of the regular army, said he also saw the baby's head. "We found two mass graves with 140 bodies. They were not shot. They had their throats slit.
Syria: massacre reports emerge from Assad's Alawite heartland | World news | theguardian.com
Heartwarming. Hope you are proud of yerselves.
Yep, a Syrian soldier would know all about this kind of shit, wouldn't he?Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
^^ They didnt use gas though, so fair play.
Go, Obama, go! Make you agenda clear to the world in a way that makes even your hardcore media supporters wince.
"Nowhere in rebel-controlled Syria is there a secular fighting force to speak of" -- New York Times, April 28, 2013
Islamist Rebels Create Dilemma on Syria Policy - NYTimes.com
Syrian rebels pledge loyalty to al-Qaeda -- USA Today, April 11, 2013
Syrian rebels pledge loyalty to al-Qaeda
Who exactly are the "moderates" that Obama has decided to train, when 11 of the largest 'rebel' groups in Syria have sworn allegiance to AQ and announced their goal to create an Islamic state?
CIA ramping up covert training program for moderate Syrian rebels - The Washington Post
Someone do the civilised world a favour and 'impeach' this America-hating, white-hating, Jew-hating Muslim Socialist piece of trash!
Is that what Washington is trying to do in Syria,find those WMD that came from Saddam.Quote:
Originally Posted by leemo