9/11 was an inside job

The planes of 9/11 weren't flying at maximum speed ASL dumbo, impossible without breaking apart. :mid:

Like ya said, a plane ploughs into a soft mushy swamp, it's not gonna catch fire too easy, no big explosion like at the Pentagon or WTC, but hey, why then all the clean bits of debris on the Pentagon lawn when they supposedly blew out from a fiery explosion when an airliner blew up?

They couldn't find the cockpit of any plane at WTC or the Pentagon either, nor bits of wing, and only one engine found at WTC, and it was tyhe wrong one, out of four aircraft engines, only one engine at the Pentagon, way too small, not from a Boeing airliner either!

Did ya know that those aircraft engines are built of titanium and steel, built to withstand massive temperatures, but woweee,.... according to Bush, the damn thing musta "vapourised "at the Pentagon, it was so hot!!! :confused:

But not hot enough to burn all that human tissue, all them bodies the US government reckonned they hauled out and ID';d there.

Oh yes, there was one bit of the forward fuselage supposedly from AA Flt 77that day, how the hell did that get out all nice and clean and sit way out on the lawn when the rest of the forward fuselage "vapourised" in the Pentagon interior.

Why is it so clean looking?

^^ Ya go on as if Bush was some sort of mastermind behind all this 9/11.

He wasn't, he's a fwkn dumbo, ("C"s get degrees he said once, about his level of critical thought. yeh and "It vapourised" explanation, something which a high school kid wouldn't even say) a mouth piece for wealthy interests, a frontsman.

Who all planned and organised the whole deal were a long time in the planning of it, way before Bush junior got into the presidency.
Rumsfeld and Chenney, Siverstein and Giulliani, Gulf states oil consortiums, many wealthy people who needed to be let off the financial hook that they were being investigated over, the crooks in the Pentagon that took the money from the Pentagon military budget, ya know the loot Chenney was on about, the missing billions,......they're the more likely types involved in the planning of all that, along with Israel, it wasn't just a bunch of Arabs with box-cutters.

one thing we forget about 911 is how it changed everything about our expectations of privacy and how the American sheep have given a blank cheque to their conservative government to spy on them

basically the US became the Soviet Union,

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911 didn't just happen, it was meticulously planned for probably a year or two with again probably several dry runs to check out the various constructs.

Bush entered office 8 months before 911.

Are you seriously suggesting that aside from running his government, Bush took time out to set up what would have been an incredibly complex operation, in that short time, while it took the Jihadis much longer for their relatively straightforward application to Allah? Have you even begun to assess the logistics of a US President putting together such an operation, and in such a short space of time?

Come now, on the one hand Bush is nailed to history as an incompetent for much of the world, and when it's convenient he's a super competent flash terrorist.

That said, I've heard it claimed by 'truthers' that he did indeed set it up, with their 'proof' being he was so incompetent that he left zillions of clues behind...never ceases to amaze me.

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Who claimed Bush was the mastermind? The allegation is rather that the Bush government knew that an attack of this scale was going to happen, that Masood guy who opposed the Taliban and was murdered 2 days before 9/11 alerted the Americans as has been proved. There were possibly more warnings. The Bush government did nothing to prevent the attacks, but embraced them.

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Oh, really ??

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LD, old matey

Why not cut this story short ?

Show me a picture of the damages, where the two 6 ton engines met Pentagon

Easy

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Nobody saw a plane fly into the WTC towers or the Pentagon.

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......they're all right wing liars and stooges and probably gay, isn't that right, ENT?

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Probably, but stooges definitely :bananaman:

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911 didn't just happen, it was meticulously planned for probably a year or two with again probably several dry runs to check out the various constructs.

Bush entered office 8 months before 911.

Are you seriously suggesting that aside from running his government, Bush took time out to set up what would have been an incredibly complex operation, in that short time, while it took the Jihadis much longer for their relatively straightforward application to Allah? Have you even begun to assess the logistics of a US President putting together such an operation, and in such a short space of time?

Come now, on the one hand Bush is nailed to history as an incompetent for much of the world, and when it's convenient he's a super competent flash terrorist.

That said, I've heard it claimed by 'truthers' that he did indeed set it up, with their 'proof' being he was so incompetent that he left zillions of clues behind...never ceases to amaze me.

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Careful now, logic, sensibility and common sense don't fit in to the conspiracy theorist's theme of knee jerk, over-reaction and drama, their heads are going to explode............












Unfortunately not.............. :(

Dude, I have posted both photos and links to them already, in which people also proved they were from that particular type of aeroplane.
I have also done the same with the physics, particularly the size of the hole.

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I have also done the same with the physics, particularly the size of the hole.

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Never mind the physics :)

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Dude, I have posted both photos and links to them already

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Just show me the photos you have

I missed the links first time around

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Dude, I have posted both photos and links to them already, in which people also proved they were from that particular type of aeroplane.
I have also done the same with the physics, particularly the size of the hole.

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Bollix.

No such documentary evidence exists.

Proved what with your high school physics and "Popular Mechanics"? :rofl:

Now which hole are you on about.....?? :confused:


Several large holes were punched through the ring walls and up to the second floor in the Pentagon, concurring with Pentagon staff eye witness accounts of explosions occurring along with bomb warnings at around 9:31 am 9/11.

I don't mean to be rude, Helge, but I'm disinclined to spend time posting once again photos and links which I have already. This whole subject has been done to death already in a few long threads.
I first encountered this subject (and ENT ) on TD in the

https://teakdoor.com/the-teakdoor-lou...-happened.html

thread, started in September 2 years ago. It then morphed into another, then this thread, started in July the next year. Recently someone bumped it.

During all this time ENT revealed himself to be an utter clod, idiot and strangely twisted creature, unable to think logically, and often purposely a troll. Every time people would produce good evidence and logically thought-out arguments, he would scorn them. If they made a claim, he would demand a link, whilst at the same time not viewing links provided (or seeming to be unable to comprehend them).
You can't reason with an irrational person.
I later did some searching and found that ENT had started threads on 9/11 before, and possibly a VERY long time ago under another nickname.

So if you want to see pics of the engines, just Google the words, or look back in this or the other thread (link above). Cheers.

You could start HERE : https://www.google.com.au/search?q=p...&bih=641&dpr=1

And HERE : http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories

And HERE : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America...ines_Flight_77

And since this was an insightful post, I'll include it here ;

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The trouble with conspiracy theorists is that they really do overrate the organisational abilities of those at the tops of various pyramids.
It's fascinating how cock-ups and apparent successes are all classed as part of the same system... the problem with that is, if everything is true, then nothing is (i.e. if everything is part of the same conspiracy; then nothing is).

Most, if not all, the stuff that looks like or is described as conspiracy is an *emergent* phenomena... rather like the way that the various shapes of features on the moon look a bit like a face.

Humans are evolved to look for patterns in everything, and it's part of human nature to develop these ideas... it's just an extension of pre-industrial superstitions... the conspiracist's mantra of "nothing is ever as it seems", must by implication, extend also to conspiracies themselves.

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What size motor is this?



https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2013/09/5182.jpg

You can't see the forest for the trees, can you ?

One of ENTs other tricks, of course, is misrepresenting the truth.

When they found an undiscovered part of one of the aircraft, which did not have a serial number, they said they could not tell from which of the aircraft it came.

Of course ENT translated this to "They can't prove the part came from any of the aircraft" or some such witless bollocks.

:)

The Pentagon engine was one of a missile, not a plane

listen, even Rumsfield let it slip a few times that it was a missile

but why the cover up ? this would be interesting to know, much more than the facts that we all know don't add up

This is a better shot,....



https://teakdoor.com/images/smilies1/You_Rock_Emoticon.gif


Thge aircraft engine found at the Pentagon.

doesn't look like an airplane engine :p

A motor from a 757 the type in AA77.

https://teakdoor.com/images/smilies1/You_Rock_Emoticon.gif


This is three times the diameter, 73.5", of the one found at the Pentagon, which was about 23 - 24 inches diameter.

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The Pentagon engine was one of a missile, not a plane

listen, even Rumsfield let it slip a few times that it was a missile

but why the cover up ? this would be interesting to know, much more than the facts that we all know don't add up

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A few times...?

:smileylaughing:

Plenty of photos and good reasoning here :

The Pentagon Attack: What the Physical Evidence Shows

Missing Pentagon Jet Engine Identified? - A 727 JT8D

Pentagon Plane Rotor - 9-11 Review


Karl Schwarz on the engine parts found at Pentagon crash site. - Democratic Underground

Screw Loose Change: Jet Engine Red Herrings

NOTE PARTICULARLY :

" Several photographs show a rotor adjacent to the Pentagon's facade to the north of the impact zone. The part has an outside diameter of about 2.5 feet and turbine vanes just a few inches long. Other parts behind the rotor appear to have a circular cross-section with a diameter similar to the rotor.
The shape and dimensions of the rotor in the photographs match those of several of the high-pressure rotors in a 757 engine. (Boeing 757s are equipped either with the Rolls-Royce RB 211-535E4, or the Pratt & Whitney PW 2037 or PW 2040.) While the largest rotor in such an engine -- the bypass fan -- is about 9 feet in diameter, the high pressure compressor and turbine rotors are a fraction of that dimension.
A photograph from inside of the Pentagon shows a scrap that appears to be part of a jet engine's combustion chamber assembly. The size, arrangement, and screw holes in the circular fuel nozzle ports appear to match those of an RB211-535 -- a type of engine used by Boeing 757s.
A more detailed analysis of the rotor and combustion chamber part is provided by two contributors to aerospaceweb.org in the article Pentagon Engine Debris Investigation.

Looks more this size, around the same diameter,

https://teakdoor.com/images/smilies1/You_Rock_Emoticon.gif

Global Hawk has a single Rolls-Royce AE3007H turbofan.

Read the last paragraph in my last post, you dunce.

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One of ENTs other tricks, of course, is misrepresenting the truth.

When they found an undiscovered part of one of the aircraft, which did not have a serial number, they said they could not tell from which of the aircraft it came.

Of course ENT translated this to "They can't prove the part came from any of the aircraft" or some such witless bollocks.

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In fact, ENT is quite correct.

Latin, you spineless retard dummy, no plane hit the Pentagon, and that's facts

stop putting that silly conspiracy theory pushed by the Bush administration to cover up their mistakes,

you are too stupid to figure it out what are the lies from truth, so really, you are hurting yourself by trying to support such senseless conspiracy theory

No, "Morden"........ "ENT" is a witless troll, and you are quite likely one of his other nics.



Butterfly : Where is your evidence ?? All you have is conjecture and VERY poor primary school level of logic.
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No, "Morden"........ "ENT" is a witless troll, and you are quite likely one of his other nics.



Butterfly : Where is your evidence ?? All you have is conjecture and VERY poor primary school level of logic.
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Why do you have to insult people who have an opinion different from your own?