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Yes. Of course. The worst part of all is that, given how obviously the official story is such nonsense, and given how so many will defend it to such an extent - even when presented with so many clear contradictions - it just proves that the bad guys had already figured that out too. America will not turn on its rulers, the elected puppets or their known rulers. They did their homework.Quote:
Originally Posted by snakeeyes
Doesn't matter if the upper echelon was involved or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer
By not releasing all evidence a strong message has been sent:
"We'll do as we please
You can't touch us !"
Machiavelli
Clearly, logic doesn't work on you.. So why waste good band width trying?Quote:
Originally Posted by ENTAnd of course no logical explanations from you, none expected either!Quote:
Originally Posted by LatindancerOh dear.....I think you just demonstrated for all to see, how dumb YOU really are. Why should we have to explain such stuff to you ?
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Originally Posted by ENT
why is this thread still going?
anything new been said since page 3?
And of course anything that follows the facts as presented instead of silly conspiracy theories considers those who do, as sheep just BECAUSE they don't drink the conspiracy theory kool aid of paranoid lemmings :bananaman: ..Quote:
Originally Posted by Butterfly
This thread is a tragic indictment of the state of TD.
That the OP can post a single video clip (the lowest form of OP) and add 1 line of his own comment which is actually a quote from somebody else and then get 2500 replies is an embarrassment to the forum.
He has compounded his original crime with a shameless self-bump after it has been dead for over a year which takes this tragedy into the realms of farce.
:deadhorsebig:
Mods and members with buttons I urge you to do the right thing and lay this shameful thread to rest in the Dog House where it belongs and where it can finally go round the u-bend to un-bumpability.
You will be doing the forum and the members a great service.
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:england:
I think they want hits not service.
Somebody do a hit on ENT, would you ?
Also with a video clip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Looper
OK....let's kill the thread.
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Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer
You're right Tom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Looper
Looper, have your opinion, but don't raise the flags of great countries as if you speak in their name.
In the words of the great Bill Hicks
"It was a long time ago Bill - let it go"
"Well don't bring up Jesus with me then "
While you may search to find the greatest app add on for your smart phone, some of us won't forget the greatest crime against humanity in (a generation?) the planet has seen.
I couldn't care less what some dudes posted about the missile theory,Quote:
Originally Posted by Latindancer
the only ridiculous theory today is the official story that a plane hit the Pentagon, because it's simply impossible
Oh, RIGHT.
Recently you posted that "the facts are pointless", and now you virtually admit that you haven't followed what we have been debating about the Pentagon incident.
Yet you come here and make silly, pig-headed statements.
Much as you want to be, you're not a mod latinprancer.Quote:
Originally Posted by LatindancerSomebody do a hit on ENT, would you ?
Also with a video clip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Looper
OK....let's kill the thread.
:rolleyes:
What's that puff of white smoke on the lawn in front of the Pentagon just before the Pentagon exploding?
Watch the debris cloud from that initial white smoke explosion rise then slowly descend to the lawn ,....in the opposite direction to the smoke from the main oily-black explosion at the Pentagon building.
That debris cloud landing on the lawn could be that nice scatter of clean aircraft aluminium scrap seen being hastily retrieved by squads of uniformed Pentagon staff minutes after the first explosions at the Pentagon.
Pentagon Struck By A Missile NOT An Airliner on September 11 2001 - YouTube
So,...no airliner seen in any of the existing 84 or so videos collected by the FBI on 9/11 onwards?
No explanation for that white smoke flash either,.
It appears in another video I posted earlier of a purported missile attack on 9/11, it too doesn't show anything like an airliner flying into the Pentagon.
you have a history of making silly statements, should I remind you of your silly "valve" non-sense meltdown ? there is nothing to be followed or debated with that kind of non-sense,Quote:
Originally Posted by Latindancer
a plane couldn't have hit the Pentagon, that's a given, it's simply impossible. What hit the Pentagon ? we can't say really, but we suspect a missile. You want to believe in fairy tales and make a clown of yourself by trying to promote the government official story, it's up to you, but I am not having a debate with a loon who believe that kind of non-sense. I would like to remind you have not question not ONE line of the official story. That alone speaks volume of your so called critical thinking state of mind.
I didn't melt down in the "valve" thread.....a few dogs (mainly Willy and ENT) tried to drag me down.
If you want to make a fool of yourself by coming here and stating that "facts are pointless" and admitting that you haven't even followed the 9/11 threads, it's up to you.
You've criticized us for not looking at the evidence (we have, actually), yet you say that your only evidence is a deep distrust of government statements.
You are a comical and silly person, Butterfly.
LD you are never going to convince the tin foil hat brigade with little things like facts.
The voices in their heads drown you out.
:)
Why do you only 'suspect' a missile hit the Pentagon. If it wasn't a plane I can't think of anything other than a missile.Quote:
Originally Posted by Butterflyyou have a history of making silly statements, should I remind you of your silly "valve" non-sense meltdown ? there is nothing to be followed or debated with that kind of non-sense,Quote:
Originally Posted by Latindancer
a plane couldn't have hit the Pentagon, that's a given, it's simply impossible. What hit the Pentagon ? we can't say really, but we suspect a missile. You want to believe in fairy tales and make a clown of yourself by trying to promote the government official story, it's up to you, but I am not having a debate with a loon who believe that kind of non-sense. I would like to remind you have not question not ONE line of the official story. That alone speaks volume of your so called critical thinking state of mind.
Perhaps it was a missile dressed up as the plane that people saw hit the building, which is as absurd as a missile hitting it and nobody seeing it from launch to contact.
You can all back and forth theories for and against, conspiracy, cover up, what ever.
Government is not telling the truth, only 3 buildings in the world of this design have ever collapsed and they were all in one day at the WTC.
Outside of the grand conspiracy, there was an Intel break down, why did the hijackers train in the US.
If they wanted to keep under the intelligence radar, why not train in some other country.
Too many little things over looked and no one has been held accountable, not the spys, not the builders of the towers, nor the people who made money out of the death and destruction.
Yet the US and the west in general have used this as an excuse to go to war and we all followed the party line, job well done.
Preplanned or allowed to happen, makes little difference, the out come was what was wanted.
We live in an age where TV an the net defines truth, they who control them make their own truth. Jim
you were ridiculed by everyone over some non-sense claims and non-existent word, that alone tells me that you have a tendency to hide yourself from reality or follow some kind of fairy tale realityQuote:
Originally Posted by Latindancer
no matter how many times you said you looked at the evidence (while in reality you haven't) will not make it more real, again here you are demonstrating a certain state of mind that is not associated with critical thinking, but more with credulity, that is a tendency to believe in "realities" that do not exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latindancer
Government should be distrusted by default, that's how democracy works. Government officials don't work for you, even if technically we are a democracy. Again, you are naive and this is quite telling about your state of mind when faced with a dramatic story full of holes and myths. Basically, your little brain can't take it, and its best defense is to ignore everything except the comforting "authority" line. It gives structure to your weak mind.
from the silly "valve" inventor non-sense, I will take this as a complimentQuote:
Originally Posted by Latindancer
why is that? does the Pentagon have an invisible shield around it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Butterfly
seems to me that any old plane could fly into the Pentagon without much problem
you mean like a Cessna ? maybe it was a giant bird loaded with explosives too,Quote:
Originally Posted by DrAndy
Do you realise how many Arab carriers send their pilots to learn to fly in the US? And that's not counting people who want to go and get their PPL.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamescollister
It's called hiding in plain sight (excuse the pun).
What is of more concern is that the intelligence that was gathered from discrete sources was never actually put together - a lot of people think that was by choice.
Don't know how many Arabs train in the US, but think most would be from airlines, not private individuals.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracudaDo you realise how many Arab carriers send their pilots to learn to fly in the US? And that's not counting people who want to go and get their PPL.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamescollister
It's called hiding in plain sight (excuse the pun).
What is of more concern is that the intelligence that was gathered from discrete sources was never actually put together - a lot of people think that was by choice.
Think that alone should have raised a few Intel suspicions, why would you want to learn and pay to learn to fly a passenger jet if you ddn't have a job as a pilot.
Can understand people going to learn to fly, but not a Boeing.
Call me skeptical perhaps. Jim
I know!! It was a drone/hybrid/missile/plane looking thingee.. Made by Toyota no doubt :smileylaughing: :rolleyes: ..Quote:
Originally Posted by leemoWhy do you only 'suspect' a missile hit the Pentagon. If it wasn't a plane I can't think of anything other than a missile.Quote:
Originally Posted by Butterflyyou have a history of making silly statements, should I remind you of your silly "valve" non-sense meltdown ? there is nothing to be followed or debated with that kind of non-sense,Quote:
Originally Posted by Latindancer
a plane couldn't have hit the Pentagon, that's a given, it's simply impossible. What hit the Pentagon ? we can't say really, but we suspect a missile. You want to believe in fairy tales and make a clown of yourself by trying to promote the government official story, it's up to you, but I am not having a debate with a loon who believe that kind of non-sense. I would like to remind you have not question not ONE line of the official story. That alone speaks volume of your so called critical thinking state of mind.
Perhaps it was a missile dressed up as the plane that people saw hit the building, which is as absurd as a missile hitting it and nobody seeing it from launch to contact.