I'm completely fcuking confused about non-binary pronouns

So here's this chap, er... woman, er ... non-binary (whatever the fcuk that means, 'cos non-binary means sod-all to me unless it involves digital electronics).

Anyway, Sam Smith (which I thought was a brewery), is now to be referred to as 'they' or 'them'.

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-49688123

I'm sorry, but my basic English grammar knowledge informs me that 'they' or 'them' refers to two or more people.

Is he schizophrenic or something?

Why can't we call a spade a spade nowadays? If this person doesn't know whether he - sorry they, are coming or going, then that's er .. their problem. Just don't fcuking confuse everyone else 'cos actually no-one else really gives a flying fcuk.

BTW, I recently got an email from the British embassy who signed as 'John (pronoun he or him)'

World's gone barmy...

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Originally Posted by Simon43

Why can't we call a spade a spade nowadays?

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...because the spades think it's racist...

They can be singular; that's no problem, common, normal language usage.

hmm... It, seems to work.

Doesn't really matter, if they desire they will find offense regardless of how you address the issue, even if you use the "correct" pronoun the'll say the tone you used insulted them, him, her, it, she, m. sexually bewildered...

the deck is stacked, a can't win situation

The worlds full of silly fuking wankers Simon.

There's the real answer. :)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrCPIrs90eg

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Originally Posted by Simon43

So here's this chap, er... woman, er ... non-binary (whatever the fcuk that means, 'cos non-binary means sod-all to me unless it involves digital electronics).

Anyway, Sam Smith (which I thought was a brewery), is now to be referred to as 'they' or 'them'.

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-49688123

I'm sorry, but my basic English grammar knowledge informs me that 'they' or 'them' refers to two or more people.

Is he schizophrenic or something?

Why can't we call a spade a spade nowadays? If this person doesn't know whether he - sorry they, are coming or going, then that's er .. their problem. Just don't fcuking confuse everyone else 'cos actually no-one else really gives a flying fcuk.

BTW, I recently got an email from the British embassy who signed as 'John (pronoun he or him)'

World's gone barmy...

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Binary means relating to two things. In this context the traditional classification into male or female. The person in the OP is saying he feels niether male nor female, hence non binary.

English has no gender neutral form, it is either he or she. I do kind of understand the issues, but frankly feel too old to give a shit about it. Colour me dinosaur.


Actually on reflection "it" would fit the bill nicely.

Except in this case it is considered derogatory

Hey Willy, is this derogatory ?

Give me old fella a suck will ya.

Just askin. :kiwi:

He doesn't identify as male or female. Although has short hair and a beard..

It's all bullshit. Wouldn't surprise me if he's got an album coming out.

Sorry, I mean it wouldn't surprise me if they have an album coming out

In Mandarin Chinese 'he' 他 (tā), and 'she' 她 (tā), are pronounced the same.

In Spanish the possessive adjective su is the same for his, her, its, or their.

555 I think I'm trailing off somewhere and I don't know where I'm taking this...

It's so discriminatory for those that identify as non-human. Trees for example.

I like it.

In this new world where we can choose to identify as anything we like, I'm gonna choose to identify as Monica Bellucci's lover then give her what's coming, then I'm gonna choose to identify as a 21 year old virgin Catholic and go to confession - let's see what the priest makes of that, then I'm gonna identify as Dilly's ex-wife and put in a big claim, lastly, I'll choose to identify as an Australian, go to their embassy and demand a passport. Surely, the law wouldn't discriminate against me in any of these areas???

So he's basically admitting that he's schizophrenic then.

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Originally Posted by Norton

www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrCPIrs90eg

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Shirley, this is the one you meant, Norton?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PObBA2wH5l0

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Originally Posted by Simon43

... non-binary (whatever the fcuk that means)

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Exactly.

Over thinking most everything to the point of unnecessary and needless complexities.

Do we see a cultural pattern, yet?

:chitown:

Is it such a big deal to call someone what they want to be called when it's precisely zero imposition or impact on your own life? Is it really any different from back in the day when that one teacher insisted you call them 'sir' when they were neither a Sir and were in fact a jumped-up cnut? Who really gives a fcuk. Or is there some other way this can be made into an assault on and affront to straight white men who are the victims of, well, everything (ask them, they'll tell you).

They's music is shite anyways.

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Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Shirley, this is the one you meant, Norton?

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Yes. Better but initial brain pain blocked my thinking. :)

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Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Is it such a big deal to call someone what they want to be called when it's precisely zero imposition or impact on your own life? Is it really any different from back in the day when that one teacher insisted you call them 'sir' when they were neither a Sir and were in fact a jumped-up cnut? Who really gives a fcuk. Or is there some other way this can be made into an assault on and affront to straight white men who are the victims of, well, everything (ask them, they'll tell you).

They's music is shite anyways.

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It's not that. It's that they get all fucking offended when you forget.

I call one bloke "he" and multiple blokes "they" and if he/they want to argue about it, he/they can contact the OED and go and fuck himself/themselves.

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Originally Posted by Bettyboo

They can be singular; that's no problem, common, normal language usage.

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'They' and 'them' 'their' should be mandated for third person reference in text books.

The recent fashion in tedious political wankery of randomly alternating between the 2 genders to show how hip the author is just trips up the flow of the prose and feels clumsy.

Will it be they on the doors of their public toilets?

Should there be four sets of public toilets to ensure they with knobs don't have to use the same loos as they without?

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Originally Posted by Bettyboo

lastly, I'll choose to identify as an Australian, go to their embassy and demand a passport.

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Well, if you claimed to 'identify' as an Aboriginal and got a few of your Mob to agree, you're in with a decent chance.

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some legislation and court judgements, defines an Aboriginal as someone 'who is a member of the Aboriginal race of Australia, identifies as an Aboriginal and is accepted by the Aboriginal community as an Aboriginal'.

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https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliam...ib0203/03Cib10

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Brianna Martin and Michael James want you to know that beneath their white skin runs a rich and proud Indigenous heritage that they want to share with as many people as possible. :dunno:

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Originally Posted by Troy

Will it be they on the doors of their public toilets?

Should there be four sets of public toilets to ensure they with knobs don't have to use the same loos as they without?

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So Reach a round ray is a they?

us is how we identify

now , show us your tits