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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    And helicopter is, in your estimation, the only alternative. I see.

    My answer needs to be seen in context as a discussion isn't only whatever was said last. Context:


    Getting into crushing debt with China is the way out for you?



    I agree . . . the next step is to figure out how to get them built, where to get them built and to keep graft down to a 'minimum'. The injection of Chinese billions isn't going to help that, rather it will place Flipland further into Chinese debt and pressure.
    Fishing rights and islands in the SCS anyone?
    Are you really so naive to think that China just hands out dosh?


    An airport rat..., read:


    Reading is simple. Comprehension isn't, right?
    I'd argue that China isn't playing very smart and could be taken advantage of. They have these big infrastructure companies that want to stay busy. They are offering financing in soft currency. The Philippines will be paying off them in devalued money. And if there is a big enough crisis , they can just default. Like Thailand did in 1997. Thailand got a lot of good infrastructure out of the 90's boom and they didn't have to fully pay for it.

    China's companies work fast and can get the job done. Seriously. The Philippines is suffering. It's half the country Thailand is , in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Or the US, for that matter. Mebbe China just offers a better deal.
    China offers the' only deal. China is the only one that can get something done in an acceptable time.

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    @sabang - PI is way overhead in debt. My grandchildren x 10^9 will be born with debt. We learned that since grade school - we owe money to the IMF-World Bank, Japan and more recently, China. Re: roads & infrastructure, there's budget alloted for it, but a lot goes into corruption too. The DPWH (Dept of Public Works & Highways) is one of the most anomalous offices. Sigh...

    Re: Palawan, El Nido is a popular resort town. Port Barton is on the other side of the island, also good beaches but quieter. I haven't been to Palawan island, but have been to Coron - have a pic thread about it somewhere. I've friends who have both been to El Nido & Coron, did the boat tours in both places - they said El Nido is prettier. Watch the vloggers Jumping Places on YT - they're in El Nido now (have been for the last 6 months of lockdown) and have up to date vids. Beaches are beautiful but they aren't mongering places.

    Mongering places would be Angeles City (but it's dead now), some in Subic, Ermita & Malate in Manila area, Cebu city, Sabang beach in Puerto Galera. The mongering scene isn't as vast (or openly displayed ) as in Pattaya. I haven't been to Cebu, but I've been to the other places mentioned.

    I've walked through Walking Street (Fields Avenue) in Angeles - have a thread on that too. I wasn't comfortable seeing the working girls, and they weren't either. They didn't want to be photographed/ videod nor have eye contact (as we were strolling along). Same as in Puerto Galera (Sabang) - during that time, the clients were mainly Chinese or Korean tourists (April 2019).

    Re: mongering (for backspin) - don't you have a Filipina wife/ partner? I doubt that she'll approve of you doing that... Anyway, whatever...

    PI isn't accepting foreign tourists until probably next year. The tourism industry is down in the dumps, as is the economy. Tourism isn't as big a deal in PI economy (as compared with TH). A big chunk of the ecomomy relies on OFW remittances, but even those are down because many were laid off & had to come home due to the pandemic (staff of cruise ships, hotels, retail sector, maritime industry, etc).

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    ^ Yes Katie. I'm a retired monger and I'd like to keep it that way. I still just like joking around about it and its fun walking around in monger areas. Me and my wife get a laugh when the ladyboys are flirting with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    I'd argue that China isn't playing very smart and could be taken advantage of.
    You cold but you'd be mistaken. Give us one example of how China has been outplayed by a struggling third world country.


    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    China offers the' only deal. China is the only one that can get something done in an acceptable time.
    Sigh . . . China gives the contract to a Chinese company, uses Chinese suppliers, Chinese labor etc etc etc . . . and hands the bill off.
    Think about it.



    Quote Originally Posted by katie23 View Post
    Re: mongering (for backspin) - don't you have a Filipina wife/ partner? I doubt that she'll approve of you doing that... Anyway, whatever...
    Do you think he cares? Honestly . . . how many Filipinas do you know who'd love to walk around seedy areas full of prostitutes and "get a laugh when the ladyboys are flirting with me"

    Yea . . . I think we know

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    You cold but you'd be mistaken. Give us one example of how China has been outplayed by a struggling third world country.



    Sigh . . . China gives the contract to a Chinese company, uses Chinese suppliers, Chinese labor etc etc etc . . . and hands the bill off.
    Think about it.




    Do you think he cares? Honestly . . . how many Filipinas do you know who'd love to walk around seedy areas full of prostitutes and "get a laugh when the ladyboys are flirting with me"

    Yea . . . I think we know
    There is lots of examples of developing countries taking advantage of big money. Thailand in the 90's. They got some good infrastructure out of that boom. They defaulted and paid the rest off by Y2k. And by 2010, they were a net creditor with a quarter trillion in FX reserves in the bank.

    Yes. China does like to use most of its own stuff. But that's the point. They seem to be more concerned with staying busy than getting their money back

    'Em no. My wife would deball me in my sleep if I mongered around. Never gonna happen.

    I never even specifically asked about mongering. There is just this idea on the board that I'm a monger because of the women of the night thread

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    Really , I spent a couple years trying to find a place where I could beach bum it closer to home. That's what the Jamaica and Mexico trips were about

    But the fact is , there is only one Thailand. Only one Pattaya and Phuket. Nothing comes close. So I gotta just accept it.

    We will visit the wife's family in the Phills and then just fly off to Pattaya or Phuket.

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    This was somewhere in Phuket. dont remember where. Probably just outside of Patong somewhere. Yellow striped curb with the white fence. Im trying to find where i was on Google earth



    Living the dream right here. In Phuket , on a mafia bike wearing counterfeit Billabong trunks
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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Hey socal the people you are debating with are speaking from experience. You are speaking from GOOGLE. Not quite the same..
    Nice of you to try and tune the young fella in AO but i suspect the wisdom gleaned by TD punters offering up advice is sadly lost on the Lad.. never mind. He can figure it out himself and report back in about 10 or 15 years or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    In Phuket , on a mafia bike wearing counterfeit Billabong trunks
    and a Chang t-shirt.

    Yeah, you don't look like a clueless dork who'd c+p unattributed Smeg posts up here in order to appear knowledgeable at all.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    and a Chang t-shirt.

    Yeah, you don't look like a clueless dork who'd c+p unattributed Smeg posts up here in order to appear knowledgeable at all.

    I look trendy actually. People who don't have a clue , don't rent liter bikes without incident.

    There was a similar discussion going on at the exact same time. And I thought it was a decent, useful answer. So I copied it. I'll make a citation the next time I do it then.

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    Fueling her up. Somchai even checked all the fluid levels. His calculator is sitting on the bucket. This guy is a solid business person


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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    I look trendy actually.
    You look like a little wanker who likes getting skullfucked by LBs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beerlaodrinker View Post
    Nice of you to try and tune the young fella in AO but i suspect the wisdom gleaned by TD punters offering up advice is sadly lost on the Lad.. never mind. He can figure it out himself and report back in about 10 or 15 years or so.
    Hey I am fascinated by all of you long termers. And jealous. It will be more like 20-25 years before i join the club

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    You look like a little wanker who likes getting skullfucked by LBs.
    ... almost fell out of the chair laughing ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper View Post
    ... almost fell out of the chair laughing ...
    The total lack of wit sometimes has a quality in itself

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Give us one example of how China has been outplayed by a struggling third world country.
    Well they did fund the vanity project of a Sri Lankan PM and after the inevitable default on payments are now the proud owners of a poorly planned Cricket World Cup stadium in the middle of Buttfok, Nowhere. On the other hand they also took possession of an international port and a bunch of other projects in Sri Lanka, so it wasn't a total loss.
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    Struggling countries play off east vs west, china vs taiwan, etc etc. Woudn't you? Show me the money.
    Sorry, but the days that amerka can claim any sort of 'moral superiority' to advance their cause are long gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Struggling countries play off east vs west, china vs taiwan, etc etc. Woudn't you? Show me the money.
    Sorry, but the days that amerka can claim any sort of 'moral superiority' to advance their cause are long gone.
    Exactly. Duterte is being respectful and practical vis a vis China. This should cost China a good highway with favorable financing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Exactly. Duterte is being respectful and practical vis a vis China
    Get fucked with your 'respectful' bullshit. It's all a game and the big boys want to win one way or the other.

    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Sorry, but the days that amerka can claim any sort of 'moral superiority' to advance their cause are long gone.
    No need to be sorry, what you're saying is factual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Me and my wife get a laugh when the ladyboys are flirting with me.
    Oh the fun to be had...

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Get fucked with your 'respectful' bullshit. It's all a game and the big boys want to win one way or the other.


    No need to be sorry, what you're saying is factual.
    Go fuck yourself

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    Excellent retort, Skidmark


    Any more wonderful rape-apology stories you wish to share?

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Excellent retort, Skidmark


    Any more wonderful rape-apology stories you wish to share?
    Strange how you say that when I specifically went to and advocate for seeing prostitutes if you want short time sex, to avoid the dirty business of all this pseudo rape going on

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    You need me to quote some of your your countless rape-apologist posts again?

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