Thread: 2010 Fortuner, any changes

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

What's that, a turbo upgrade?

No its gives you a fuel pressure controller so you can crank up your rail pressure, A turbo boost cut so you can manualy set your turbo boost, A fully adjustable piggy back race ecu with wiring loom adds 60 to 80hp to any modern diesel and cost about 60k baht
With turbo upgrades to work properly you will need as above as well as a bigger intercooler.
My chevy gets a 350 hp turbo and intercooler system at the end of jan and should make 300hp and 700 nm of torq which is pretty good for a 2.5ltr diesel

My chevy gets a 350 hp turbo and intercooler system at the end of jan and should make 300hp and 700 nm of torq which is pretty good for a 2.5ltr diesel

Not too shabby at all.

How's that coming anyways. Repairs going ok? I'm finally going to get around to starting the restoration of my Benz after new Year.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

How's that coming anyways. Repairs going ok

good as once they took off all the broken bits the car was no where near as bad as I thought. I got in and had a good look and it didnt even touch the crumple zones at the front. The impact seems to have been push upwards so easy fix and will be done in 5 weeks

^ Is that an isolated case or is it numerous?
So far the Captiva been good. Only a flat battery.
The Honda Civic been problematic since day one! Small problems keep cropping up.
The Toyota Camry been great.
The Vigo new air con pump. New Radiator.
Nowadays reckon most makes are pretty much ok.

Still next year will dump the Civic & get the Fortuner. It is a good horse nothing fancy though.

Just read a few reviews from one site but quite a few people had problems that would have pissed me right off had it been me. Only one engine problem, he got quoted 15k to repair but could have imported a new engine himself from Korea for 4....

It's just the old Vigo has been so reliable and tight (still no rattles at 90k) that it would be disappointing to have anything less reliable if I changed. Actually suprised you have had any problems like that. My speedo has started working intermittently for some reason, thats it. They may not have all the bells and whistles but they are definitely tough.

Originally Posted by Rigger

A mate just bought the 2010 fortuner TRD and it is a very nice car but at 1.4 million baht I would be looking for more than what the fortuner offers. He is also fitting a monster dsm kit so it will be a very quick fortuner

And the alternative would be what? Only interested, because I don't see anything on the Thai market that comes close (spec/price etc).

well the Vigo have in excess of 200,000kms..
So can't complain.
The Isuzu Dmax's engine overheated. The cock driving it at the time did not notice and promptly buggered the engine good & proper. Remedy, Engine overhauled.

I guess the Captivas 2 lt road tax would be less than the Fortuners 3? Any idea by how much? I think I paid 6k a year for my Vigo...Not too bad I guess and insurance of 19k.

Got to tell you folks, the standard 3 Litre diesel Fortuner doesn't really need any form of enhancement, unless it's some kind of prestige thing. Certainly in my area, anything beyond 200bhp is a complete waste of time as you have neither the roads or circumstances to use it. Low down torque, and smooth acceleration is the key (I've found), and for that, the Fortuner is supreme. The only vehicle that comes close is the Isuzu (forget the name of it, but it sounds like some kind of dog, Mutu?) have been in one, but super light steering, very vague, and brakes are not reassuring at all). Forget all of the cosmetics, and the engine enhancements that you'll never use, save yourself some money and keep a very nice original car, and maybe buy a boat (if you live near the sea!!!).

I'd spend the money on suspension, brakes and a nicer sound system. (Although the standard one is fine for this old bugger, I would love an ipod connection though)

Any performance gain and you will pay for it at the pump.

Originally Posted by PAG

the standard 3 Litre diesel Fortuner doesn't really need any form of enhancement, unless it's some kind of prestige thing. Certainly in my area, anything beyond 200bhp is a complete waste of time as you have neither the roads or circumstances to use it

Diesels are primarily modded for torque not bhp.
Furthermore what give you the right to tell others that 200bhp is enough??
600bhp Chevy or Toyota will still not go faster than 180kmh, thanks to the fuel governor...

Originally Posted by Bung

I'd spend the money on suspension, brakes and a nicer sound system. (Although the standard one is fine for this old bugger, I would love an ipod connection though)

Any performance gain and you will pay for it at the pump.

You're right, better to enhance the original car with quality 'extras', such as DVD, navigation (though I think the top spec Fortuner now comes with satnav as standard).

DVD & Satnav have them and never use them.
Use the money to buy a quality laptop instead.

Originally Posted by blackgang

What the fuck do you know about it, have you ever ridden a real American motorcycle, let alone owing one? How about their automobiles,, ever own one..

Cars, yes. Bloody awful. Bikes, no. Now that Buell has been murdered, I don't know of any modern American bikes.

Originally Posted by blackgang

OH I see just another jealous US basher.

Jealous of what?

Originally Posted by blackgang

BTW, I have owned and driven a few Brit cars. none that were ever worth a fuck.

Brit cars were generally shit, hence there aren't any any more. We all drive Euro/Jap cars in the UK. American cars can't hold a candle to them.

Originally Posted by Travelmate

Originally Posted by PAG

the standard 3 Litre diesel Fortuner doesn't really need any form of enhancement, unless it's some kind of prestige thing. Certainly in my area, anything beyond 200bhp is a complete waste of time as you have neither the roads or circumstances to use it

Diesels are primarily modded for torque not bhp.
Furthermore what give you the right to tell others that 200bhp is enough??
600bhp Chevy or Toyota will still not go faster than 180kmh, thanks to the fuel governor...

Think you're not quite understanding my post. Interested to know, where do you live? Here in Phuket? Incidentally, unless you live in the US, where diesels are only for commercial vehicles, the rest of the world has embraced the latest diesel technology for maybe the last 8 or 9 years (since the advent of the common rail diesel). Now, for the same capacity, you have diesel engines matching BHP, comprehensively surpassing (even V8 torque), and delivering excellent fuel consumption. An example is Audi winning Le Mans 24 hour endurance racing with diesel powered cars (on more than one occasion, and against Porsche, Aston Martin, Jaguar etc etc). All of this with lower emissions etc. Don't know if you've ever driven in Phuket, if you have, tell me/us (the forum), what you believe to be an ideal vehicle for this environment?

Originally Posted by Travelmate

DVD & Satnav have them and never use them.
Use the money to buy a quality laptop instead.

Agree about DVD, but Satnav is (in my opinion) very, very useful. I have an Accord which has a DVD based standard Satnav, but in my Fortuner I use a 'bolt on' Garmin Nuvi. Personally, I prefer the Garmin, more simple, touch screen, love it.

Originally Posted by blackgang

Originally Posted by Travelmate

Furthermore what give you the right to tell others that 200bhp is enough?? 600bhp Chevy or Toyota will still not go faster than 180kmh, thanks to the fuel governor...

Wrong.... Fuel pumps only govern engine RPM's not miles Per Hour. MPH is governed by Tire dia. or gearing and the horse power to reach max engine RPM's at the drive wheels.

Cummins built a small 6 cyl.(JBS) supercharged diesel engine for Automotive use and ran it in an indy car in a Indy 500 race, he was told that the air intake was to close to the ground and would suck rubber and trash from the track into the roots blower, but he refused to move it and did not finish because the roots lobes were getting covered with rubber and his blower blew.

http://www.cummins.com/cmi/content.j...=1&langId=1033&

But it seems the one here is a turbo, but I never saw a turbo, I had one in 1954 and was going to build it into a Kaiser sedan and never got around to it and it was a roots supercharged engine.

I think we're getting off subject, and comparing the high capacity (V8+) US trucks/cars etc, with what the modern European offerings bring in diesel style. I remember about 10 years ago, I was working in Houston, and tried to explain why I was buying a new Merc E320CDI Estate! First of all, trying to explain that estates in Europe were were very much perceived as an all activity/sports tool, much the same as a SUV in the US, and secondly, (at the time) 204 bhp from a 3 litre diesel, with torque that exceeded the 5 Litre (Mercedes) petrol engine, was met with more that an element of disbelief. However, that's the situation. The US hasn't (still) caught up with diesel power, and there is a traditional resistance to doing so (smelly, dirty diesel etc). However, nothing could be further from the truth.

As a rider to this story, I actually changed my E320CDI for a CLK500 (5 litre V8), about 18 months later. Bad move. Not only was the 320 a much more satisfying drive, with incredible pick up, but the CLK suffered from it's C Class origins, and the quality of fittings weren't up to what I'd expected. Sure, if I really put my foot down, the CLK was extremely rapid, though not so much different from the CDI. Mid range acceleration was pretty much the same. Big difference was the noise at high cruising speed (160-180 Km/hour). The CDI was much more relaxing for that, maybe coupled with the more reassuring weight/composure of the CDI.

I was driving a Fortuner Ultimate all day yesterday.
It was a damn good vehicle with 85k on the clock.

I am used to the D4D growl when you give it some welly but this was much louder.
Anyone heard of problems with a cracked exhaust?

Originally Posted by PAG

I think we're getting off subject, and comparing the high capacity (V8+) US trucks/cars etc, with what the modern European offerings bring in diesel style. I remember about 10 years ago, I was working in Houston, and tried to explain why I was buying a new Merc

I am a schooled diesel mechanic so I do know what you are talking about, the cummins 5.9 I believe it is will out torgue a 440 mopar magnum.
The US is far ahead of european in diesel engineering but not in the smaller class engines, but in the mid range automotive truck engines and have been for many years as truck, tractor and marine engines.
Main reason being that they have not had the interest in them, Gasoline muscle cars and smooth,quiet auto engines were what people wanted. now things are changing and they are making some smaller diesels that are very fine engines.
I did but a Merc a long time ago,,190D I think it was and would not pull a sick whore off of a tilted pot.

Originally Posted by blackgang

Wrong.... Fuel pumps only govern engine RPM's not miles Per Hour. MPH is governed by Tire dia. or gearing and the horse power to reach max engine RPM's at the drive wheels.

you are a dick. Thanks to the fuel pump and the gearing the truck cannae go much further than 180kmh!

Originally Posted by PAG

Originally Posted by Travelmate

Originally Posted by PAG

the standard 3 Litre diesel Fortuner doesn't really need any form of enhancement, unless it's some kind of prestige thing. Certainly in my area, anything beyond 200bhp is a complete waste of time as you have neither the roads or circumstances to use it

Diesels are primarily modded for torque not bhp.
Furthermore what give you the right to tell others that 200bhp is enough??
600bhp Chevy or Toyota will still not go faster than 180kmh, thanks to the fuel governor...

Think you're not quite understanding my post. Interested to know, where do you live? Here in Phuket? Incidentally, unless you live in the US, where diesels are only for commercial vehicles, the rest of the world has embraced the latest diesel technology for maybe the last 8 or 9 years (since the advent of the common rail diesel). Now, for the same capacity, you have diesel engines matching BHP, comprehensively surpassing (even V8 torque), and delivering excellent fuel consumption. An example is Audi winning Le Mans 24 hour endurance racing with diesel powered cars (on more than one occasion, and against Porsche, Aston Martin, Jaguar etc etc). All of this with lower emissions etc. Don't know if you've ever driven in Phuket, if you have, tell me/us (the forum), what you believe to be an ideal vehicle for this environment?

Jeez we got an Emporer Turd clone here.
We are talking pick up trucks here. Please read slowly before you post.
Yes, yes the Audi Le Mans race car. How many times have that been repeated by retards trying to compare to a diesel pickup....
What Phuket got to with anything. Living in HK & Singapore, where it takes an hour to cover the entire area. And yet it been done in Lambos, Aston Martin & the Fortuner.
For Phuket the Camry or the Accord is IMO the perfect vehicle. Not an oil burning truck.

Originally Posted by Travelmate

Jeez we got an Emporer Turd clone here. We are talking pick up trucks here. Please read slowly before you post.

I bet that you wish you really knew just what in the fuck you were trying to sound so experienced and educated on, now don't you.

Originally Posted by blackgang

Originally Posted by Travelmate

Jeez we got an Emporer Turd clone here. We are talking pick up trucks here. Please read slowly before you post.

I bet that you wish you really knew just what in the fuck you were trying to sound so experienced and educated on, now don't you.

If this is your shot. Then you missed by a mile.