Thread: Compared to Thailand ... How cheap are cars in the West!

Fish ... did you buy it?

If so, looking at the quality of the exterior, maybe a thread in our Motoring Forum might be a valuable contribution?

Lot's of photos and maybe a 'driving experience' through Fish Eyes?

Originally Posted by Headworx

Agree on the 2nd hand part, but must disagree on the New car part.

An example I know of for fact is a BMW X5 xdrive 25d is ballpark 4.3 million in Thailand which is +/- 175k Aud, the same car in Oz is ballpark 105k Aud.

Imported cars in Thailand are much dearer than the same vehicle in Australia, cars Manufacturer in Thailand are substantially cheaper in Thailand than in Australia using the Ford ranger, Toyota hi lux and hi ace as examples

Check out the price on this, i'm thinking of having a mid life crisis and buying it





For sale is my Ferrari 360 spider replica which is a genuine DNA kit. The reason I state this is because there are many replicas that claim to be a DNA and they're not! If you are familiar with the kit car world you will know who dna are, and if youre not, a little research and you will see that these are the ones to go for.
I have owned the car for about ten years now but its time to let it go as I don't get the use out of it as I should and I have now converted my garage to a room and its now out on the drive.
The car is painted in Ferrari rosso corsa red and has white leather seats and a genuine Ferrari dashboard (modified to fit). It also has a replica Ferrari steering wheel with push button start, genuine Ferrari horn and genuine Ferrari wheels.
The car was built using a category Toyota mr2 roadster as a donor. This is the later convertible model mr2, not the older model. To date the car has only covered 63000 miles from new and has been maintained regardless of cost.

£12,500 about 1/2 million baht

What do you reckon?

Deal or no deal?

Get on it like a car bonnet, Chitty.

I’m guessing that Thailand, with a similar population to U.K., has not yet reached the same saturation point for car ownership.
In Thailand, not every family owns a car, hence the regular sight of the Honda Wave with five up passengers.

In a U.K. most families own at least two cars, so plenty of used and usable second hand stock. Prices for used cars have dropped since I cam here 10 years ago, and new cars were better looked after because of pride and novelty value.

As ownership increases, used stock increases, and most dealers make their money on finance deals, offering cheap monthly costs, with high interest rates over 5 or 6 years. Supply will eventually bring prices down further in Thailand, but not there yet.

Also the cars in the UK are better maintained and have a yearly MOT, not sure if there is a similar test in Thailand.

Was looking at an Audi Q7 today , cost £70k ten years ago.
Mint condition and under £10k.

How many ten year old cars are on the market in mint condition in Thailand?

I dunno where I sit on replicas. On the one hand they're an affordable version of the real thing, on the other they're not the real thing... ?!

Have been mooting getting an E49 R/T replica but just dunno.

Trouble is there is so must choice in the West or downunder whereas in Thailand it's limited.

Been taking test drives in various showrooms recently and I'm spoilt for choice,starting to seriously consider an Audi now.
Never thought I would, but they are superior engineering.

It's a fooking minefield out there when it comes to buying a car.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Have been mooting getting an E49 R/T replica but just dunno.

If you are going to get a replica, get something worth having.



https://classics.autotrader.com/clas...lica/101024704

Originally Posted by Norton

If you are going to get a replica, get something worth having

That's what I said!





Best part of AU$300,000 for an original one these days... $80k+ for a decent replica

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

That's what I said!





Best part of AU$300,000 for an original one these days... $80k+ for a decent replica

You bought a bouncy castle? lol

Threw it in free with the $300,000 car

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

How many ten year old cars are on the market in mint condition in Thailand?

Probably a few million as they're polished twice a day.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

I dunno where I sit on replicas.

Personally, not a fan.

I'd go for a normal MR2 before one with a Ferrari kit on it.


Think Top Gear did piece before on how it was cheaper to buy a used car, fill it up with gas, and drive from London to Manchester and back than it was to get the train.


Which kinda highlights how cheap old cars are in the UK, and how fookin' expensive the train is.

Originally Posted by Luigi

Personally, not a fan.

I'd go for a normal MR2 before one with a Ferrari kit on it.


Think Top Gear did piece before on how it was cheaper to buy a used car, fill it up with gas, and drive from London to Manchester and back than it was to get the train.


Which kinda highlights how cheap old cars are in the UK, and how fookin' expensive the train is.

I think they excluded the cost of insurance for 18 year old lotharios.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

I dunno where I sit on replicas. On the one hand they're an affordable version of the real thing, on the other they're not the real thing... ?!

Tough topic, there's 2 sides to the coin. First consideration is price, genuine articles of many classics are just way out of reach of most people these days. Then even if someone could afford the real deal, they wouldn't drive it which (to me) would be like not fucking your Supermodel girlfriend so she'd still be fresh for the next guy she's with. A lot of tribute cars these days are far more powerful and safer than the originals with things like real brakes and engine upgrades built into them that didn't exist back in the day, so that's a plus for buying one.

I guess in an ideal world, you'd have one of each. One to thrash the fuck out of while grinning from ear to ear on weekends, and the other to check for specs of dust on the paintwork a few dozen times each day.

^Pretty much where I sit on it also, well said.

I was just randomly thinking about the GT Falcons as well. It's kinda weird how they're worth so much but the GT Fairmont made/produced for South Africa which is essentially the same car is so cheap in comparison. Understandable, but still weird. Just shows how provenance and emotion all come into the mix as well.

^Yeah I think a lot of that is there's Phase 3 GTHO's and nothing else matters to the Ford crowd. No matter how close in appearance and spec they might be, they're not a genuine Shaker.

GT Falcons - pfft. Just a taxi with a big motor. And a squeaky front end.

The Clevelands sound great but the 4V head versions are horrible motors really. That exhaust port design is sus.
The 351 4V Windsor was a much sweeter engine. Wish I still had my XW GT .....

Those E49s were hot but an E55 is the thing to have. Even an E57 could be fun.

Just wait a few years when the boomers have fallen off the perch and the hipsters won't give a hoot about old muscle cars. Then they'll be cheap again.

Originally Posted by docmartin

GT Falcons - pfft. Just a taxi with a big motor. And a squeaky front end.

That're pulling a million dollars now which isn't bad for a 1971 taxi with a big motor and a squeaky front end (which they indeed did have, you could walk up to any XY and bounce some downward weight on the front guards and they'd ALL squeak).

Originally Posted by docmartin

The Clevelands sound great but the 4V head versions are horrible motors really. That exhaust port design is sus.
The 351 4V Windsor was a much sweeter engine. .

I owned quite a few 351's and in my experience the 4V Cleveland's had more torque and with the right cam carb and headers the sound was unmistakable and good!. The Windsors I owned revved faster and higher though, but I never pulled one down to see what someone else might have done to the insides.

Originally Posted by docmartin

Wish I still had my XW GT ....

I know for certain there's more than a few of us that wish we still had some of the cars we paid a few grand for back in the day. At least we did own them at one time and drove them as they were meant to be driven, which is like we'd stolen them

Originally Posted by docmartin

Just wait a few years when the boomers have fallen off the perch and the hipsters won't give a hoot about old muscle cars. Then they'll be cheap again.

Doubt it, they'll never be cheap again. I can't see cars like V8 Torana's and Monaro's ever being under 100k again, as they were not so long back. If Shakers came back down to half a Mill, that's still not cheap!.

The Cleveland will breath! With the V4 head i believe the intake valve is 1.75 inches. The drawback is the thickness of the cylinder walls. Trust me, been through a few. Need a morring for your sailboat?