The Official TeakDoor Fishing Thread

[Bonecollector]

Due to my recent new life skill venture into fishing and realising there was no dedicated thread for fishing on TeakDoor, I thought I would start one. I could also do with some pointers on fishing and all it's various forms.

[Bonecollector]

So I bought a modest/ basic set up as pictured. Apart from a few casts fly fishing on the river Tweed as a teen, I have 0 experience or knowledge.

I management to get everything set up and to tie a couple of decent looking 'fisherman knots'. I was feeling pretty confident on my way down to the river Khwae Noi and after a few casts I was starting to get the hang of it. I also however noticed some braiding on my line. I stupidly continued and my line broke, the fly is currently MIA and presumed half way to the Gulf of Thailand by now.

Where did I go wrong?

I was casting the fly like I was taught but I have a feeling this line is not cut out for that type of casting and is more of a dip it in from the top of a bridge and let it flow down stream with the current.

Any help on my situation would be greatly appreciated. I have 5 days left and would like to progress as much as I can.

All in all so far a great experience and it is definitely always best to progress through life learning new skills as you go. You never know when you might need them!

Thanks

[aging one]

First off I am pretty sure its a lure and not a fly. Did it sink after a cast?

[S Landreth]

she got three different meals from this one.........

Edit - Two of them,…….

Some of the bass above and a mango salad

and Pla Plaa salad

[nidhogg]

I was casting the fly like I was taught but I have a feeling this line is not cut out for that type of casting

Well, no. That is a spinning rod and reel - not a fly fishing rod and reel. With a fly fishing set up, it is the weight of the line that is used to get the momentum going, with a spinning set up, it is the weight of the lure.

The rod mechanics during the cast are quite different......

[S Landreth]

I could also do with some pointers on fishing and all it's various forms.

Technology.

Some of the guys I work with have an application that will tell you the best time/s to fish (there's a hunting app also). Works well.

When I do go out on the property to fish, I’ll ask one of them the best time. Within a few minutes after the first cast I’ll get a hit.

I don’t know which app they use but it could be one listed below in the link.

The 6 Best Fishing Forecast Apps

[Bonecollector]

Well, no. That is a spinning rod and reel - not a fly fishing rod and reel. With a fly fishing set up, it is the weight of the line that is used to get the momentum going, with a spinning set up, it is the weight of the lure.

The rod mechanics during the cast are quite different......

Thank you so much for that information nid, that really helps me know what I have and what I want. A spinning rod will do for now, I guess I just can't do that fly cast which is quite enjoyable. So are my limits for this equipment just dipping it in from a bridge and letting the current take it as far as I wish?

Once again, thank you very much.

[Bonecollector]

First off I am pretty sure its a lure and not a fly. Did it sink after a cast?

It did indeed mate, so a lure then right....

[Bonecollector]

Technology.

Some of the guys I work with have an application that will tell you the best time/s to fish (there's a hunting app also). Works well.

When I do go out on the property to fish, I’ll ask one of them the best time. Within a few minutes after the first cast I’ll get a hit.

I don’t know which app they use but it could be one listed below in the link.

The 6 Best Fishing Forecast Apps

Thanks for that Landreth, I will look into this and in general I am looking forward to gaining further knowledge of my new hobby!

Hopefully before the end of our trip I can catch something for the girls! There is a bridge at the end of the garden here so I think that will be my spot.

[malmomike77]

^^^With a spinner you cast and reel in, cast and repeat. The spinner mimics a fish which is designed to attract predator fish to swallow it. You are describing float fishing which you cast and leave.

[Bonecollector]

^^^With a spinner you cast and reel in, cast and repeat. The spinner mimics a fish which is designed to attract predator fish to swallow it. You are describing float fishing which you cast and leave.

With a spinner, what kind of cast are we talking about? Like a fly fishing cast??? I did that and my line braided and snapped pretty quickly. Just watched a tutorial of casting a spinner and he used the same technique I used. Well he showed 3 techniques - one over-head, one side skip like thing and then they fly cast style.

So why would my line braid so frickin quickly and then snap if I was casting a spinner as it can be cast?

Tx Mike for pitching in!

[malmomike77]

^ I usually cast over shoulder for spinning. On the line i can only think its either low quality/old or check the eyes on the rod that there are no snags to abrade it.

[david44]

there was no dedicated thread for fishing

There's LINE

[Bonecollector]

^ I usually cast over shoulder for spinning. On the line i can only think its either low quality/old or check the eyes on the rod that there are no snags to abrade it.

Thanks again Mike, I supposedly got 'Strong fiber from Japan'. I will stop by another shop today and get some more advice. Thanks again mate.

[Bonecollector]

So I took my rod to a local fisherman and he has hooked me up with some 'Wildpro' (I am anything but with regards to fishing) nylon line which now seems to be taking my casts but is quite the nightmare to keep on the spool, something I am spending this evening reading about. I also got 3 more lures and some rolling swivel, which I wasn't using when my line snapped. Had a good early evening on the Khwae Noi but nothing bit so no BBQ fish for the girls!

If you are ever in need to fishing equipment or advice, Ake is the man to go to along the upper stretch of the Khwae Noi, fishing seems to be his life and he speaks pretty good English. Link to his shop location is below.

Anyway, probably making a tonne of mistakes as I go but you live and learn.



Google Maps

[malmomike77]

Anyway, probably making a tonne of mistakes as I go but you live and learn.

I have not fished properly for over 30 years so i am probably at the same level as you. When i hang my shirt and tie up i aim to make a spot of fishing a regular activity. I forgot the tranquillity of it and the fact it slows you down gives you space to reflect or just daydream. The fish are a secondary consideration IMO.

On float vs spinning, you tend to spin in all river conditions as it copes with faster moving water, float is best for slow moving or lake fishing.

[hallelujah]

I've fished loads on lakes and canals in the UK, which are totally different to Thailand of course (I've only ever fished in the sea there), but my advice would be the same: put a bit of fish/shrimp (there are lots of predatory fish even in freshwater in Thailand) or a worm on the hook. Remember that the bigger fish will usually be found at the bottom, but you'll get plenty of interest from whatever depth you're at given the numbers you always see on the surface (and because of the heat), so float fishing would work (even if you're just guessing the depth) as well as putting a simple weight on and leaving your bait on the bottom.

I don't think you can fail to catch.

[Troy]

You can fish using a lure/spinning in any river or lake but you need to do more when the water is still/slow moving.

We fish much smaller stuff on a light rod and much thinner line. I like to use lure frogs and skip them along the surface. I've never caught anything but the local kids do using same technique but with live frogs.

I find it more fun casting and then bringing the line in at different speeds.

[misskit]

What hallelujah said. There has never been a time I have been fishing, fresh water or salt, that I have caught a fish with a lure.

Live bait is the way to go.

[S Landreth]

Khwae Noi…..so no BBQ fish for the girls!

You’re fishing in Thailand?

If so,…….toss the larger/older fish back in! Think of it as catch and release.

[Bonecollector]

I've fished loads on lakes and canals in the UK, which are totally different to Thailand of course (I've only ever fished in the sea there), but my advice would be the same: put a bit of fish/shrimp (there are lots of predatory fish even in freshwater in Thailand) or a worm on the hook. Remember that the bigger fish will usually be found at the bottom, but you'll get plenty of interest from whatever depth you're at given the numbers you always see on the surface (and because of the heat), so float fishing would work (even if you're just guessing the depth) as well as putting a simple weight on and leaving your bait on the bottom.

I don't think you can fail to catch.

I will try and get some bait today and try it out this evening. Aek said there was one particular predator fish in the Khwae Noi but the name escapes me, will find out. Thanks for the advice

[Bonecollector]

You can fish using a lure/spinning in any river or lake but you need to do more when the water is still/slow moving.

We fish much smaller stuff on a light rod and much thinner line. I like to use lure frogs and skip them along the surface. I've never caught anything but the local kids do using same technique but with live frogs.

I find it more fun casting and then bringing the line in at different speeds.

The Khwae Noi seems to be pretty dam fast at the moment, especially when they open the dam to release water to the farmers.

I too enjoy the casting bit but am looking forward to joining the locals fish over the bridges back in the south Bangkok near the ocean.

[Bonecollector]

You’re fishing in Thailand?

If so,…….toss the larger/older fish back in! Think of it as catch and release.

I agree to some degree but isn't it the other way round that you should always throw the younger fish back into the river??

[Bonecollector]

What hallelujah said. There has never been a time I have been fishing, fresh water or salt, that I have caught a fish with a lure.

Live bait is the way to go.

I will definitely give it a go, thanks for the input Missy

[S Landreth]

I will try and get some bait today and try it out this evening.

If you’re really going to try to get into this fishing hobby/activity, you need to get yourself a casting net.

Take well care of it (I’ve had the same one for over 30 years) and you will never have to purchase live bait fish again.

I agree to some degree but isn't it the other way round that you should always throw the younger fish back into the river?

Of course, toss the small ones back in. But as I said before the older/larger Thai freshwater fish should be released (don't keep them out of the water long and make sure the are able to Swim away). There is a reason and it’s not what you referred to (but it has everything to do with the wellbeing of your daughters). I don’t want to get into here. Just believe.