Thread: translation help..! :)

I need some translation help. anyone!? -English-Thai-

Google translation is not so...you know!

So... Sentence is:

"Never love anybody who treats you like you're ordinary! "


Thanks!!!

Jesus... sounds like you're buying into some expensive shit here, mate.

Originally Posted by the dogcatcher

mate.

I think it's a bird.

Phonetically: Mai tong ruk kon tee pua waa khun bokatee.

Originally Posted by somtamslap

Originally Posted by the dogcatcher

mate.

I think it's a bird.

Phonetically: Mai tong ruk kon tee pua waa khun bokatee.

or

' yah rak kry tee chy kune yahng kon tamada '

That's the trouble with these things. There's never going to be an exactly right translation, you have to know a little more about the people and the circumstance to get as near as you can to the feeling for what they mean.

In English, what I've written would be :

' Don't love anyone who uses you like an ordinary person.'

I'd translate ST's as

' You don't have to love anyone that thinks you're normal "

Never would be ' my kery ' but I've never heard a sentance start with it.

Anyways .... I's off to bed so let someone else have a go.

thanks a lot already!!

And how i write it...?

Originally Posted by taxexile

To treat, as in behave towards in thai is GRATHAMGAP, sorry but I dont have a thai keyboard.

So I would translate your sentence as

YAH RAK KHON TII GRATHAMGAP KHUN YAANG THAMMADAA, you could use TOK LUM LAK GAP for "fall in love with" rather than just "love "

I think I would use THAMMADAA which expresses ordinary, rather than POKKATTI which expresses normality.

It might make more sense to say "not special" rather than "ordinary " in which case the sentence becomes "dont......... unless they treat you special" and you could try

.......NORKJAAK KOW GRATHAMGAP KHUN YAANG PISAET.

There is probably a much better colloquial way of expressing this sentiment, and the sentences so far offered may very well sound clumsy to a thai, but the meaning is, I think and I hope, there.

Of course to get your meaning across, your tones and cadence will need to be good.

Anybody got the definitive translation ????

YAH RAK KHON TII GRATHAMGAP KHUN YAANG THAMMADAA - To me this one reads Dont love people who treat you normally.

Here's my attempt:

Mai mee wan rak gan gap khrai ti kit wah khun mai bpen kon jaeo - Never love anyone who doesn't think you are cool/great/wonderful.

ไม่มีวันรักกันกับใครที่คิดว่าคุณไม่เป็นคนแจ๋ว

^ Ouch.

Originally Posted by the dogcatcher

Jesus... sounds like you're buying into some expensive shit here, mate.

oh falang jai dee me nam jai mak mak!

Mark

Originally Posted by longway

ไม่มีวันรักกันกับใครที่คิดว่าคุณไม่เป็นคนแจ๋ว

Googles translation of that Thai sentence

Never in love with someone who thinks you're a rower.



Mark

เราเป็นคนนึ่งที่เกลียดกิ๊ก เพราะแฟนเราไปมีกิ๊ก จนมีอะไรกัน

That should do it, and look good as a tattoo.

By the way, why hasn't anyone put up something in Thai saying "Sure you are a nice guy but you have a very small penis compared to Farang"


(oh...and just because the user name is Female does not mean she is a she....)

I still say NOT a SINGLE person who responded to this post is a NATIVE Thai speaker. It's just TOO wordy..

I'm sorry but asking your Thai significant other is NOT close enough to get the "real implied meaning" of what the O/P wants.

If you don't possess the Thai language skills to wade your way thru this, you have NO reason responding to this post, especially in "karaoke Thai". For the overly "thick" that's Thai spelled how ever you wanna spell it in "Engrish".

Sorry guys, but after 5+ years studying the Thai language, that's just how it is..

Hey!! Don't shoot the messenger!! The message ain't from me but from the Thais (who, last time I checked were native speakers...).

Still I wish the O/P good luck and I hope they find what they want (to say or tattoo)!!

เทคแคร์
Tod. .. ..

Originally Posted by toddaniels

I still say NOT a SINGLE person who responded to this post is a NATIVE Thai speaker. It's just TOO wordy..

I'm sorry but asking your Thai significant other is NOT close enough to get the "real implied meaning" of what the O/P wants.

If you don't possess the Thai language skills to wade your way thru this, you have NO reason responding to this post, especially in "karaoke Thai". For the overly "thick" that's Thai spelled how ever you wanna spell it in "Engrish".

Sorry guys, but after 5+ years studying the Thai language, that's just how it is..

Hey!! Don't shoot the messenger!! The message ain't from me but from the Thais (who, last time I checked were native speakers...).

Still I wish the O/P good luck and I hope they find what they want (to say or tattoo)!!

เทคแคร์
Tod. .. ..

Nothing wrong with having an attempt at a translation, even if only to be told its incorrect.

The only way for foreigners to learn and improve is through their mistakes, whether in converstion with native speakers or on forums.

So long as you can get your intended meaning across to the listener, for the non native speaker it matters not a jot whether the language is text book correct or just a clumsy attempt.

The problem with Thai language is that as a means of communication it is too rudimentary to translate well into English other than at a relatively crude level of conveying meaning often omitting any notion of nuance that gives English it's texture. Vice versa it is impossible except to the same utilitarian degree and thus what we understand as literature within our culture is beyond their comprehension. There is no correspondence between the languages divided by a gulf as significant as the one separating haute cuisine from junk food.

This explains why there is no Thai literature of any worth known internationally and why Thailand is a cultural desert except in a folkloric sense or media pandering to populism and superficiality.

Quite why one would wish to learn the language escapes me.

Originally Posted by nicole14

I need some translation help. anyone!? -English-Thai-

Google translation is not so...you know!

So... Sentence is:

"Never love anybody who treats you like you're ordinary! "


Thanks!!!

I think you must first translate that into something more cryptic without losing the meaning. The thing is did you intend any irony? Did you mean love someone in the transactional sense? I think you need to define your terms better so that component parts can be broken down leaving a core of meaning lending itself to a translation. I suspect there may be an idiom available in Thai that might suit e.g. Love a pig and you get grunts.

Originally Posted by thegent

The problem with Thai language is that as a means of communication it is BLAH_BLAH_BLAH <SNIPPED>

Quite the broad brushing there "thegent" about the nuances and ability to convey meaning in the Thai language versus Engrish, especially because a quick look at your posting history and the last line of the post I snipped; "Quite why one would wish to learn the language escapes me" seems to imply that you don't know this language fer shit.

It is my experience that pulling anything remotely resembling coherent Engrish outta the Thais is an arduous task at the best of times and a losing proposition at the worst. Learning to communicate with them in their language "opens up the country" in ways a foreigner who doesn't speak Thai never will experience.

I can't remember all the times I've witnessed a foreigner with their thai significant other in tow telling her to tell another Thai this or that. Often what comes out the mouth of 'their' thai is NOTHING close to what the foreigner really wanted to say in the first place. Especially in situations where there is a possibility of "face loss". The Thais are hard-wired to interact in a mostly polite manner even during problem resolution. Foreigners by the fact we're foreign don't hafta follow those "codes-of-conduct" when interacting with Thais in Thai.

Dunno whether you know (or care) but almost every single idiom we have in English has it's counterpart in Thai (as well as perhaps in every language in the known world). True the "points of reference" are different. In English we say, "You can't always get what you want.", in Thai they say "It can't rain everywhere.". I'll give you another one, in English we say, "Something is better than nothing", in Thai it's "A handful of shit is better than a handful of fart". Also a lot of the time the idioms in Thai are geared more towards agrarian terms, given for the most part this is a society based around farming.

I've found after 5+ years studying this language that there isn't a single thing I can't express in Thai that I can express in my native American English. About the only time something close to this comes up it's due to MY lack of Thai vocabulary and NOT the inability to express complex ideas, emotive or conceptual things in the language. Thai is a rich, flavorful and colorful language once a foreigner gets past "taxi-thai", two-word-tourist-thai" or "horse-peak-thai". The problem doesn't lie in the Thai languages lack of depth, meaning or nuance but in foreigners lack of proficiency with the language.

As I said, emotive or conceptual things rendered in English don't lend themselves to easy "word-4-word" translations given the differences between east and west.

I suggest the O/P start here;
Thai idioms

Thai Proverbs


It's at least a start..

I rather think you have proved my point.

" thus, the native hue of resolution is sicklied o'er by the pale cast of thought "

translated into Thai, would probably resolve to

" you think too mutt ".

Look, horses for courses, their language like their civilisation is somewhat crude and unsophisticated. Give it another thousand years and it may evolve but their isolationist and essentially parochial nature does not bode well.