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    Jakarta for Six days - that would be six days too many

    Yet another business trip - this time to Jakarta . . .

    Arrival was smoggy/foggy/dull/wet and quite unpleasant - the airport seemed like it was built in the 60s and never updated but the immigration people were quite friendly.

    Visa was USD$25 and in we went (three colleagues)

    Airport to hotel - two hours in this:


    . . . and that's pretty much the way it stayed for the week.

    View from my room (got the penthouse suite this time) was simply bleak as well:



    Sorry, Willy, but the place isn't for me - aside from the clear decrease in Malay ladies' conservatism . . . quite a few lookers, I must say.

    One word for Jakarta:

    Traffic . . . never-ending traffic . . . one trip of four ams took us an hour and a half . . . and it wasn't even raining

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    Quote Originally Posted by OckerRocker
    quite a few lookers, I must say.
    True.

    But you probably didnt get out to see or do anything, I'm guessing.

    Besides, you sorta get used to the traffic, but like Brits get used to the rain.

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    Sounds horrible...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OckerRocker
    quite a few lookers, I must say.
    Yet you give us pictures of traffic ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OckerRocker
    quite a few lookers, I must say.
    like Brits get used to the rain.
    We don't get used to it, we just live with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly View Post
    Besides, you sorta get used to the traffic.
    Well, I suppose you would, how about the canals Willy, I believe their a sort for sore eyes?

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    It sounds like it's time for them to build a subway there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OckerRocker
    quite a few lookers, I must say.
    Yet you give us pictures of traffic ?
    Sure the next visitor will post up a photo thread revealing the wonders of Jakarta

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly View Post
    you sorta get used to the traffic, but like Brits get used to the rain.
    Jakarta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Annual rainfall mm - 1855
    Rainy days per year - 130

    London - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Annual rainfall mm - 592
    Rainy days per year - 110


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    ^ So it rains harder, but only for 20 days longer (less than 3 weeks per year) than London.

    Freak.

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    Bournemouth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Annual rainfall mm - 835
    Rainy days per year - 120

    Just over a week less than Jakarta! Must be really worth it ageopile man

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly
    But you probably didnt get out to see or do anything, I'm guessing.
    Zip, zero, zilch. We actually had the Monday off before our flight back at 6 but were called to a site visit . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo
    Sounds horrible...
    Is . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly
    Yet you give us pictures of traffic ?
    I'm hardly going to go around taking pictures of women in short skirts . . . Indon jails aren't pleasant I've heard

    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna
    It sounds like it's time for them to build a subway there.
    You've been, haven't you. Work has started and is supposed to be finished by 2019 . . . so far they've piled up a few brick on a road to cause more congestion

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    Didn't stop in and visit with Wills?

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    ^

    Willy would not of showed anyway.

    Would of had it pegged as a TD meet up.

    Sorry Willy, Just could not resist that one EH.

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    Any brasses in Jakarta?

    Peng Mais?

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    To be JockCarter must be hell enough.
    Let Cocker docker Go

    He may have also been exposed to to
    Simian
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    Germs

    Don't be an Okkerblocker
    or a miserabled Fokker
    The PH level is just right
    For those with insight
    Release him from the locker

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    Quote Originally Posted by OckerRocker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna
    It sounds like it's time for them to build a subway there.
    You've been, haven't you. Work has started and is supposed to be finished by 2019 . . . so far they've piled up a few brick on a road to cause more congestion
    No, I haven't. I might go in 2019. Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme
    Didn't stop in and visit with Wills?
    We'd chatted but he was away outside of Jakarta - it was definitely on the horizon but didn't work out - added to whichI was a bit slow in getting an Indon sim card.

    Next time will be mid July to re-visit some clients - we'll definitely meet up then

    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna
    No, I haven't. I might go in 2019. Cheers.
    My advice: Stay way from Jakarta - the rest of the country is quite beautiful (as are the ladies as I may have mentioned) and I'll certainly take a day or two in bandung or bogor next trip

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    Quote Originally Posted by OckerRocker
    Next time will be mid July to re-visit some clients - we'll definitely meet up then
    I'm in Melbourne then. Return 15th July. (it's also Ramadan then, so be prepared for that.)


    Quote Originally Posted by OckerRocker
    and I'll certainly take a day or two in bandung or bogor next trip
    Traffic can get nasty getting you to Bandung. (usually 4 hours from Jkt.) - Bogor is only an hour so pretty easy.

    do you play golf ?

    And some more pictures from Indonesia.

    25 Photos That Will Make You Want To Visit Indonesia « Airows

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    How does ramadan manifest from the point of view of the uninvolved foreigner?

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    many shops closed.
    traffic lighter in the early evening.
    huge diner banquets every night.
    bars and night clubs close earlier. (and you have to drink beer in a coffee mug)
    lower productivity all month.
    stinking breath from folk who are fasting.
    higher food and staples prices
    ramamdan shopping sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly
    I'm in Melbourne then. Return 15th July.
    Welcher!

    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly
    (it's also Ramadan then, so be prepared for that.)
    Ramadan here, too . . . remember, I live in your northern neighbour!

    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly
    Traffic can get nasty getting you to Bandung. (usually 4 hours from Jkt.) - Bogor is only an hour so pretty easy.
    Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly
    do you play golf ?
    Badly . . . my handicap is playing left-handed

    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo
    How does ramadan manifest from the point of view of the uninvolved foreigner?
    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly
    many shops closed.
    traffic lighter in the early evening.
    huge diner banquets every night.
    bars and night clubs close earlier. (and you have to drink beer in a coffee mug)
    lower productivity all month.
    stinking breath from folk who are fasting.
    higher food and staples prices
    ramamdan shopping sales.
    Here mostly Malay shops are only closed at Hari Raya, the first and last week of Ramadan . . . and the traffic is a blessing.

    No alcohol purchasing nor imbibing restrictions here

    Yup, lower productivity

    Stinking breath is . . . urgh!

    There government clams down on price hikes - prices are stable

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    Quote Originally Posted by OckerRocker
    do you play golf ?
    Badly . . . my handicap is playing left-handed
    The golf is good here, perhaps a game in bogor, several nice courses around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OckerRocker
    do you play golf ?
    Badly . . . my handicap is playing left-handed
    The golf is good here, perhaps a game in bogor, several nice courses around.

    Dragging a gold bag around id tiresome . . . and doesn't look professional when picked up at the airport by clients

    (And golf clubs generally don't have leftie clubs for hire - bastards)

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    Quote Originally Posted by OckerRocker
    (And golf clubs generally don't have leftie clubs for hire - bastards)
    More to the point....

    Let me ask around.

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