Thread: E-Cigarettes, Follow up

Originally Posted by keekwai

You guys really are starting to sound like junkies.

Reformed cultist.....their dogma changes as the fashions do.
Tomorrow. Amway.

I agree, we do sound like junkies!

I'm going through at least 10ml of juice per day, but most of it is just glycerine so I'm not concerned. On the costs, I didn't really take into account, I purchased on the basis that I'd rather I know where the liquid comes from and that they're safe. However, it's probably worth doing the maths. Liberty Flights has an almost permanent 10% discount (banner at the top of the page gives you the code to use at checkout) so 500ml unflavoured nicotine in a PG or VG suspension costs GPB 45 or 2,200 baht. However, this is 50mg nicotine, far too strong for anyone. Even a heavy smoker would cut it with 50% VG or PG to give 25mg stregnth, cutting it by 50% again would give 12.5mg which is what most people smoke. This works out at 550 baht plus whatever the cost of pharmacy bought glycerine - I got a 1 litre bottle of each and honestly can't remember how much it cost, but not much. If you're talking of going to 6mg for lights you'd cut it by 50% again. That would equate to 275 baht for your nicotine PG or VG mix plus not much more again for your pharmacy bought PG or VG to cut it. And that's for 500ml!!!! Thankfully, they sell it in 125ml bottles too, as if you don't use much nicotine it will last a long, long time. Add flavouring at GBP 3 per 5ml or menthol flakes so cheap locally they're almost free (I bought a box which will last me for several years - it was the only size they had) or if you've found a local supplier of concentrated flavour add whatever that costs, and unless I'm missing something it has to work out a lot cheaper. As far as customs go, I can't see it being a problem but I'm fortunate in that I go back to UK every year and know lots of people who are coming and going - very few people will mind getting something delivered to their house and sticking into their suitcase (along with the PG Tips, Atora, dried peas, Ariel Stain Remover and whatever else I forgot to pick up).

On making up 100ml of only one flavour, there is a better way. All you need is a supply of very cheap small plastic bottles and a 5ml syringe with a blunt needle. This way you can accurately measure out 2ml of your PG/VG mix and keep adding drops of flavour until you get the taste you want, then if you want you can go on to make more using the same quantities, or start a new experiment. You must keep very good records on what works and what doesn't for this to be of any use. From experience, it tastes better fresh, so keep on making small batches rather than a big one that will last you a month. It's become a bit of a hobby for me (as you can tell), although I always go back to menthol. I have one menthol flake mix so strong it blows my head off and has no nicotine; it's nice once a day and really cleans the sinuses!

I think I remember you commenting that you still get cravings - use those cravings to 'smoke' flavoured glycerine without nicotine. The craving may not be the nicotine, you may be missing (or craving) the action of puffing and blowing out smoke. For me that's the case anyway and it does the trick. I'd be interested where you get your attys for 350 baht - are they genuine? That's something else I found you have to watch out for in my never-ending research. The sellers in UK and US state clearly that they are non-genuine if they are, in Thailand consumer law isn't so strict. I've heard mixed reports on how well the non-genuine ones perform and how long they last.

Hope it helps.

Wow thats a lot of juice per day! Are you going through attys quickly then?

The attys are from Ovale through one of thier approved distrubuters. Same place I bought the original ego-t kit. see post #11

They sell 2. One is An ego-t atty 700b, the other ego-t (TAWA) atty 350b. The same as what the kit originaly comes with.

OVALE THAILAND - Product

They are both made to exactly the same specifications. The only difference is the 700b atty comes with a warranty of 30 days.

I am yet to have a problem with an atty, I blow them out each night, and a rinse under the tap after a week.

I think i'll take your advice and order a small bottle of non-nicotine liquid and see how I get on with that when the cravings hit.

I have a friend coming over to see me early September so I may order the bits I need to his address in the UK and get him to carry it over. I'm not too sure I want to risk using the postal service on goods like these.

Originally Posted by Satonic

Wow thats a lot of juice per day! Are you going through attys quickly then?

The attys are from Ovale through one of thier approved distrubuters. Same place I bought the original ego-t kit. see post #11

I've only had one atty die on me so far and I work them very hard - it was the 'expensive' one that came with the starter kit and it died while still under warranty so not a problem. Oddly enough I haven't had a problem with the TAWA, but as I wanted a spare battery as well as spare atty's just in case, I decided it was probably going to work out cheaper to buy another starter kit whist in UK, GBP 40 from Liberty Flights, both atty's full 30 day warranty. I tested them both straight away - one was dead on arrival and was replaced within 2 days. As a bonus, I have a spare charger again just in case. I've gone through about 4ml today already, but only maybe half a ml with nicotine (although that was 36mg so gave me a good hit of it to start the day). I honestly think that I could go with no nicotine at all, but on a psychological level I would probably be thinking about it all day if I weren't having a little bit. And as I stated earlier, I never wanted to stop smoking, I just wanted to stop smelling like a dirty old ashtray.

Good luck to all the giver-uppers on here.

My wife and daughter have been on my ass big time as of late about my smoking and coughing. Will see...

Originally Posted by hillbilly

My wife and daughter have been on my ass big time as of late about my smoking and coughing.

Good. Give it up mate. You know what happened to BG & Props. Do you want your daughter to see her father suffer like that?

Any e-cigs and supplies available in Pattaya? It's a lot closer to me than BKK.

Originally Posted by Satonic

Originally Posted by jandajoy

Are they legal in Australia?

I haven't a clue, but they are not legal here in LOS

Hang on! Is that a typo? Are they legal here or what?

Quitters never win and winners never quit !

Originally Posted by keekwai

Any e-cigs and supplies available in Pattaya? It's a lot closer to me than BKK.

No they are not legal here, Thailand banned them a while back.

In regards to buying one no need to go to patts or BKK. On the first or second page of this thread are the details of where to buy online. Delivered to your door within 48hrs.

If you need any specific info regarding ordering let me know.

Originally Posted by Satonic

No they are not legal here, Thailand banned them a while back.

But you can still buy them at many shopping centers and bars

they are also band in Australia but you can still buy them I grew up around smokers my whole family and all of my friends and I have never had an urge to smoke it's strange

Originally Posted by keekwai

Originally Posted by Satonic

In regards to buying one no need to go to patts or BKK. On the first or second page of this thread are the details of where to buy online. Delivered to your door within 48hrs

No credit card. Unless they can handle ATM or Bank deposits. I'm going up to Patters this weekend anyway. I could make a further trip to Bangkok.

I noticed an address in the OVALE site in BKK as "4th floor MBK Centre" (Mr Por) Anyone know what shop it is on the 4th floor ... and if they are available there with no hassles. (Seeing as they are illegal)

No credit card needed. They give you their bank account number and name, and you transfer the money to them via the ATM or if you have online banking. All you need is a Thai bank account, or know someone with a Thai bank account.

On the ovale list, its a Mr.Singha I deal with, I think he is the first name on the list.

If you did want to visit them, I believe their phone numbers are listed so just get a Thai friend (presuming you don't speak Thai and they speak no English!) to give them a call to see if they have what your looking for and ask where exactly they are located.

Sorry I cant help with that, have never visited any in person.

I just signed up to the forum E-Cigarette Thailand Forum - Index .. but for the life of me I can't see any links to online ordering. (Using Google Translate) What's the secret?

Originally Posted by keekwai

I just signed up to the forum E-Cigarette Thailand Forum - Index .. but for the life of me I can't see any links to online ordering. (Using Google Translate) What's the secret?

Ok, thats the guy I ordered from, and here is the page of the item I ordered/

Ovale Ego-T by Joyetech

If you scroll about half way down that page you will see his phone number and bank details. You have to give him a call, no online ordering I'm afraid. I spoke to him in Thai so not sure if he speaks English but he handled my order very well.

This website icareless online store | OVALE Elips | iMIX | Dekang | E-Cigarette | E-Juice | E-Liquid | OVALE eGo-T

Is the same price, and lets you order online. You would want to start with the kit 2,900 baht and it will give you everything you need and spares. However you don't get the free bottle of juice.

So make sure you order a few bottles of juice to get you started. The blueberry is great But there are tobacco flavours if thats what your looking for.

icareless online store | OVALE Elips | iMIX | Dekang | E-Cigarette | E-Juice | E-Liquid | OVALE eGo-T

I have ordered online with them and again very good service. I added all my items to the cart, checked out entering my details and address. At the checkout page you will be presented with the stores bank details to transfer to.

I got an email confirming the order, then another confirming they had received payment. Then the next morning an email with the tracking number, next day was at my door.

I was very impressed

Thanks for that. I'll use them in future ... but for now ... I just noticed a Pattaya distributor on the Ovale site ... so I'll give them a buzz on the phone ... (In my broken Thai) ... seeing as I'll be there Friday afternoon.

Originally Posted by Rigger

Originally Posted by Satonic

No they are not legal here, Thailand banned them a while back.

But you can still buy them at many shopping centers and bars

Just like Yaa baa.

Be careful where you buy them. You don't want counterfeit Chinese stuff that is doing you more harm than the smokes themselves.

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Be careful where you buy them. You don't want counterfeit Chinese stuff that is doing you more harm than the smokes themselves.

Very good point Noodles, If at all possible make sure from who you buy is listed on the official ovale website as a distributor.

I'd rather pay the extra than pick up some at a market stall that could contain anything.

The Ovale products are sold to the UK and the US, have international websites and meet their standards.

Originally Posted by keekwai

Thanks for that. I'll use them in future ... but for now ... I just noticed a Pattaya distributor on the Ovale site ... so I'll give them a buzz on the phone ... (In my broken Thai) ... seeing as I'll be there Friday afternoon.

Ok good. Just make sure your aware of what the online prices are before hand so the guy you meet doesn't try and rip you off.

The official ovale website offers a free bottle of juice worth 500 baht, and seeing as the guy in Pattaya is officially working for them he should give this to you too.

Actually ... I just signed up with "icareless" and ordered a kit and 3 different bottles of "juice" to try. ((VG) Tobacco , DK-TAB (Blended) and Blackberry)

Will deposit money tomorrow ... should have it on Monday. I'll make this weekend in Patters my last tobacco filled one ....... maybe.

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Originally Posted by Rigger

Originally Posted by Satonic

No they are not legal here, Thailand banned them a while back.

But you can still buy them at many shopping centers and bars

Just like Yaa baa.

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