HELP! Please, Machines.

**Missismiggins** · 17-10-2009, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by Thetyim

You don't need a tractor you can get a walk behind model
Just need to find a shop that sells them in thailand which I haven't managed yet

It looks like the machine I use to cut my hair...that is NOT going to take off here... let alone cut any of the shit I have growing here. Imagine the service....pop up the road to Somporn...he'd be fucked!, probably clean his teeth with it.

It's like the Black and Decker strimmers they are trying to sell here, (fishing wire for a blade) they couldn't cut shit in the UK there is no way they are going to get throught the shit that grows here!

**Thetyim** · 17-10-2009, 08:42 PM

I am telling you that it will slice through undergrowth like a hot knife through butter.

If you don't want to listen then, up to you

**Missismiggins** · 17-10-2009, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Smith

MM, go out and hire a tractor to level everything out. Then plant a good grass. A friend of mine has about 65 rai in macadamia nuts and does the whole thing by himself. It looks like a golf course between the trees.

Has he got some free time? A herd of wilderbeast couldn't get through here - I have never seen shit grow like this, in two weeks, I have 3M grass, ...from WHERE?

**Mr Smith** · 17-10-2009, 09:10 PM

MM, mix some diesel with the roundup. That works good.

**Missismiggins** · 17-10-2009, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by Thetyim

I am telling you that it will slice through undergrowth like a hot knife through butter.

If you don't want to listen then, up to you

I'm listening, it just does not look like it can cope with 2" stumps.
Have you any data, specs etc.? This thing, (if you get the revs up, and are careful, can cut through a 3-4" tree stump - it's a bit dicey though, as you never really know if the tree or the blade is going to give first)

The kind of crap I am cutting through is as I say up to 2-3" thick weed stumps, that can bend a 1/4" thick steel blade revolving at about 6000 RPM, forgive me if I appear a bit cynical, that an overgrown hair trimmer is going to get through this.

Please, if I am wrong, I beg your pardon, but I have an RBC that "supposedly" can sever 1/4" stems, but in reality, if their is more than one at a time, then it is completely usesless, even at about 10000PM, it just bends the blades.

I ventured out today, and took a look at what was on offer locally, and to be honest, the macines they had were worse than mine! They wouldn't have lasted a day here.

They now seem to be selling the grass cutters with 13mm bolts ( securing the blades) Mine has 17mm and they still sheer like they don't exist, and that is when I am taking it easy..like a metre forward and a metre back, not really ploughing through this shit! .

There must be some specs that can provide a cutting thickness, or reccomendations as to its use...after all, it seems like a UK product, but then again if it is not available here then it is not really a solution.

Anyway, we have had a bit of rain, I'll take you a photo tomorrow, send the REP if it cuts this shit you have sold me!

**Mr Smith** · 17-10-2009, 09:29 PM

Miggins, if it is big enough to drill a hole down the center of it, drill down as deep as you can and fill the hole with salt. GONE!! The grassy stuff will die with a mixture of roundup and diesel.

**Thetyim** · 17-10-2009, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

Is there anyone out there that can recommend a DECENT grass cutter?

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

I'm listening, it just does not look like it can cope with 2" stumps.

Your description has changed somewhat.
No, a sickle bar will not handle 2"
Even a tractor mounted flail would be struggling with 2"

You have no choice, cut by hand, plough it up or poison it

**Missismiggins** · 18-10-2009, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by Thetyim

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

Is there anyone out there that can recommend a DECENT grass cutter?

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

I'm listening, it just does not look like it can cope with 2" stumps.

Your description has changed somewhat.
No, a sickle bar will not handle 2"
Even a tractor mounted flail would be struggling with 2"

You have no choice, cut by hand, plough it up or poison it

Sorry, you are correct, my initial description does not entirely reflect what I should have said. That is not really what I meant. Generally it is 99% shit grass and the usual crap, what I should have said was that "infrequently" withing this crap I come across the odd pig of a weed (they usually spawn from a single root and then span these "tendrils" everywhere, which makes cutting virtually impossible. However, if you can get at the main root, which can be about 2 or 3 inches thick, it is possible to gradually "nudge" this type of mower "cautiously" through it.

I appreciate the pics, I have never seen anything like that (apart from what I use to cut my hair) i wasn't being offhand, just having a laugh.

All I really wanted was a stronger version of the same kind of machine I already have, it suits. I kind of hoped someone had a bit of experience with some other brands and could possibly reccomend something beter than my NKL, however, as I said over the weekend, the alternatives I have seen in the local shops are not a patch on my rebar strengthened heap of scrap - most of the ones being touted for almost 4K wouldn't last a week here.

Thanks for all your info!

Thetyim, can you post that website address, I cannot see it clearly from the pic, I can only make out something..garden.co.uk, as I would be interested in having a look at this thing as I haven't seen one before, CHEERS!

**Missismiggins** · 18-10-2009, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Smith

Miggins, if it is big enough to drill a hole down the center of it, drill down as deep as you can and fill the hole with salt. GONE!! The grassy stuff will die with a mixture of roundup and diesel.

What does the Diesel do?
My wifes brother is trying to describe another chemical that he adds to the Roundup, I cannot understand what it is, but will persevere, I thought the whole point of using Roundup was that it was quite "environmentally friendly" and killed everything to the root! Surely mixing other things with it defeats the purpose?

I never trust Thais anyway, the last chemical they gave me to "sprinkle" under the Lam Yai to get rid of BLUAK (I think termites) was a substance called "Carbofuran" or similar, not knowing what it was, I accepted it at face value, it was only later that I came across this shit on the net and discovered it is banned by most western countries and is in fact one of the most toxic chemicals to birds, fish and humans - and a kilo costs 55 baht - cant remeber if I washed my hands afterwards, but if I grow a new head I'll be sure to let you know.

**Marmite the Dog** · 18-10-2009, 11:03 PM

Why not build your own? You know what you want and it'll make a good thread.

**lom** · 18-10-2009, 11:08 PM

I don't get it Miggins, it is the same where ever you are in the world.
You've got to get rid of the roots with an axe or whatever before you run the lawn mover/cutter.
Wtf do you expect, that it should be some kind of holiday entertainment to keep 20 rai's in shape?

**Thetyim** · 18-10-2009, 11:14 PM

**Missismiggins** · 18-10-2009, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Why not build your own? You know what you want and it'll make a good thread.

you read my mind!
I actually parked up outside a place on saturday, while the wife was getting a smear test - no not the same place, but parking was tight. But this guy was maiking all sorts of things in a small shop house, using stainless copper, brass, steel you name it - he had MIGs TIGs, Oxy and the stuff he was bringing out to customers was really amazing.

I got my mower repaired (part of the chassis broke again sending the belt either flying off or turning upside down) at another shop - it looked like someone had stuck it in a volacano - the welding probably would not have passed an X ray, but it cost 20 Baht - I felt ashamed and gave him 50, i think he wants to marry me now!

But seriously, I may just consider even copying the mower I have, but getting it made from better quality material - there cannot be more than 500 Gaht worth of steel in the whole thing.

The wheels are the most expensive pieces, and mine are not really re-usable, as the hubs have been welded on.

The awkward bit as far as I saw, was removing or re-mounting the fron bearing assembly, as it is welded in place and would need to be cut off. (As I don't know where to by these bits on their own.)

**Missismiggins** · 18-10-2009, 11:19 PM

Originally Posted by Thetyim

I promise- the blade will jam, or you will find a toad or a Jakep in there! - where to put the Roundup/Diesel mixture? and is it big enough to get a drill in?

**Missismiggins** · 18-10-2009, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by lom

I don't get it Miggins, it is the same where ever you are in the world.
You've got to get rid of the roots with an axe or whatever before you run the lawn mover/cutter.
Wtf do you expect, that it should be some kind of holiday entertainment to keep 20 rai's in shape?

It's not at all the same wherever you are in the world!

In the UK things don't grow - here, things don't die!

I was probably a bit naieve, I spent a few years trying to cut 20 Rai with an RBC - I eventually realised I was not going to win on that one.

Later, i bought the current mower, cut everything down probably five or six times...and it still grew back.

Then I had a brainwave - I would KILL KILL KILL using Roundup. (I initially paid a couple of fucktards to spray everything with their Thai Brew - they certainly killed the grass, the bananas, the tomatoes, the papaya etc. etc. All of the good stuff stayed dead, only the grass grew back)

After I used Roundup, everything seemed fine for almost a year, I was able to enjoy a bit of a leisurely strole, pushing the mower on it's 90KM roundtrip through the 5-6 inch grass.

Suddenely, after I went to bed one night, I awoke in the morning to discover that despite the Roundup killing all the grass, I now had a new breed of SUPER WEED! and this fucker doubles in size in a week.

So, instead of 20 Rai of grass, I have 20 Rai of creeper, root spawn weeds from hell and mutant prickly bushes that envelope everything and rip you to shreds if you touch them.

So, no, it wasn't a holiday thing, but it was a bit of a surprise how quick this shit can grow, but, by the time you realize it, it is way past a normal days "mowing"

Anyway, I am off to the land of nod, and series 11 of Southpark -thanks TOT, however, I sadly await the dawn, when I must visit the police for my 90 day reporting +21 days late, there goes 2000 baht and a slapped wrist! That would have paid for 15 litres of Roundup - ....................

**Norton** · 19-10-2009, 12:25 PM

Rather than try to find something to cut the weeds and trees, kill off the big buggers and occasionally till between the fruit trees rather than try to cut every couple of weeks.

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**Missismiggins** · 19-10-2009, 08:02 PM

I like the look of that Norton!
Do you think a rotorvator like this would manage to cut through heavy clay soil?

It looks like a Chinese machine with a Honda or Honda fake strapped to it, do you know if it is the 6.5HP or the 10HP? I'll get the wife to read the ad tomorrow...on second thoughts I'll get my son, at least I will get an answer that I can understand!

Thanks a lot for that, I tried asking Thais about 5 years ago about rotorvators, but they looked at me as if was an idiot!

My old man used one once, I never forgot it - it nearly dragged him to his death prematurely, sort of cut into the soil and started going down - he couldn't hold it - hilarious - he sadly didn't see the funny side!

**DrAndy** · 19-10-2009, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

I've minced a couple of snakes, disturbed a few JAKEPS, to the point that the fuckers were half way up my back. Pissed off a few bees, to which I had a swollen face for a few days, and lastly, but most painfully, really annoyed a nest of those Tor hua sua, whereby I got stung by about two or three, that really set me back a bit...I had an arm the size of my wifes ass, only I couldn't move it on it's own, I needed help to get in on the steering wheel of the car...never again.

similar results to you posting on Teakdoor then

**DrAndy** · 19-10-2009, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

Thanks a lot for that, I tried asking Thais about 5 years ago about rotorvators, but they looked at me as if was an idiot!

smart fellas, those Thais

the thing is, if you get the land ploughed by a tractor, you then have to cut the weeds or grass back whenever it gets worthwhile

if you have left it until weeds have 2" trunks, you must have not cut there for about 6 months

so get it all turned over, then cut it whenever necessary...simple

**Thetyim** · 19-10-2009, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

Do you think a rotorvator like this would manage to cut through heavy clay soil?

Nope..

**Norton** · 20-10-2009, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

Do you think a rotorvator like this would manage to cut through heavy clay soil?

Not likely on the first go but if you have a tractor come in and till/plow to break up the hard pack, it should work if you use on a regular basis.

**sssfqt** · 23-10-2009, 01:52 PM

This is what I use at my farm in Khoen Kaen

**Thetyim** · 23-10-2009, 02:35 PM

Pics a bit small but looks like a flail mower.

**jandajoy** · 23-10-2009, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by sssfqt

This is what I use at my farm in Khoen Kaen

I had one of those once. Pretty powerful bit of kit. Good if you're not too worried about the finish. PTO of a small tractor, job done.

**Mr Smith** · 23-10-2009, 04:06 PM

Those mowers sure love snakes too.

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