Thread: Smartphone quandary

Originally Posted by 9999

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I wasn't clear, you need root to get recovery mode, which then allows you to install ROMs straight from the SD card.

Yep that's definitely the case and much easier too, especially with clockwork 3 I was talking about before. Never used the recovery mode you;re running Harry.

Give me a while and I'll paste some screen shots.

Here's the recovery mode menu that I now have on the Spica. Must admit I didn't look for it for the Tab yet, it was pretty easy to use Odin to flash that to 2.3.3.



The "Apply any zip from SDCard" is the easiest way to flash a new ROM. You just copy the ROM you want to the root directory of the SD Card.

Quick question: If I buy an old Android phone (e.g 2 year old HTC magic going cheap) are these still being supported by the manufacturers? Is it easy to update them online (without doing OTA) through the manufacturers or do you have to do the modding?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The point is that you can extend the life of the phone and get more value out of it.

how is hacking a phone make it extend its life ? or are you just retarded by making blank statements like that ?

and how are you adding value when you are downloading hacked crappy applications you will never use ?

like I said, you are 15 and get excited over nothing, certainly over things with no real value

Harry,9999 etc
any reason why you use odin rather than clockworkmod recovery?
What Is ClockworkMod Recovery And How To Use It On Android [Complete Guide]

Originally Posted by Plan B

Quick question: If I buy an old Android phone

google the phone name and cryanogenMOD and see if there is a firmware being maintained for the phone - then have a read of the threads to see what they have to say

Originally Posted by Butterfly

like I said, you are 15 and get excited over nothing, certainly over things with no real value

age has nothing to do with being a tech - you may think that getting excited over a new release of perfume or clothing line is what it is all about - but others like to see and admire technological advances and skill.

Samsung has just supplied several free galaxy S2's to cynaogenMOD devs - hopefully I will being seeing a stable ROM I can try shortly

Originally Posted by Plan B

Quick question: If I buy an old Android phone (e.g 2 year old HTC magic going cheap) are these still being supported by the manufacturers? Is it easy to update them online (without doing OTA) through the manufacturers or do you have to do the modding?

Have a look on this site.

Android Forums & Windows Phone Discussion [at] xda-developers

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Chances are there wont be much help from the manufacturer.
I didn't see a HTC Magic listed.

There's a ton of stuff for the SGS1

Originally Posted by Butterfly

how is hacking a phone make it extend its life ?

Much in the same way upgrading the OS of any computer extends it's usefullness.

Unless of course you brick it.

Originally Posted by baldrick

any reason why you use odin rather than clockworkmod recovery?

Because with Oudin you can go back to 'original' firmware. CWM requires root access. CWM is good for ROM updates etc, Oudin is a very easy way to re-format and install new OS on your phone.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

how is hacking a phone make it extend its life ?

It makes your phone more than twice as fast for started. You can play with heaps more stuff too like installing Hello Kitty or Ferrari themes. It's like soooo coolzo.

Originally Posted by 9999

Originally Posted by Butterfly

how is hacking a phone make it extend its life ?

It makes your phone more than twice as fast for started. You can play with heaps more stuff too like installing Hello Kitty or Ferrari themes. It's like soooo coolzo.

Please stop trying to engage Butters in discussions about new technology. He's still trying to fathom Windows XP, and all of this fancy talk confuses the poor dumb fuck.

Telling him things like flashing an old phone with a new ROM gives it the same features as a brand new, expensive smartphone is beyond his amoeba-like comprehension.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Telling him things like flashing an old phone with a new ROM gives it the same features as a brand new, expensive smartphone is beyond his amoeba-like comprehension.

it's nice to be 15 again when you are hitting 50

^ Butters, this Android stuff is serious. Go ahead and keep in the dark. Fair enough calling boy-man on gamers but to dismiss Android and cuss users who are trying to get the most out of it as '15 yo like' is ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Plan B

Quick question: If I buy an old Android phone (e.g 2 year old HTC magic going cheap) are these still being supported by the manufacturers? Is it easy to update them online (without doing OTA) through the manufacturers or do you have to do the modding?

Have a look on Android & Windows Phone: Tablets, Apps, & ROMs @ xda-developers and see what work is going on on that particular model.

The manufacturers tend to stop supporting after 18-24 months because they'd rather sell you a new phone.

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Originally Posted by baldrick

Harry,9999 etc
any reason why you use odin rather than clockworkmod recovery?
What Is ClockworkMod Recovery And How To Use It On Android [Complete Guide]

If you look at post 328, you'll see I have Leshak's recovery mode installed on the Spica. But it was so simple to use Odin to flash the Tab with 2.3.3 and a subsequent update, and it got rooted as part of that procedure.

Now I'm waiting for Miui for the Tab.

^ Yep I'm with Harry, Oudin is just too easy to flash your phone with. I only use CWM for updates. Otherwise backup with 'Titanium', save to PC and use Oudin if you want to install new firmware or clean / reformat your phone.

Originally Posted by 9999

^ Yep I'm with Harry, Oudin is just too easy to flash your phone with. I only use CWM for updates. Otherwise backup with 'Titanium', save to PC and use Oudin if you want to install new firmware or clean / reformat your phone.

WTF is "Oudin"? Have you been taking computer lessons from Butters on the sly?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Have you been taking computer lessons from Butters on the sly?

Oops for some reason I had Oudin stuck in my head, when in fact it's called Odin. Silly me.

Now have you been taking lessons from Butters in prickery on the sly Harry?

Originally Posted by 9999

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Have you been taking computer lessons from Butters on the sly?

Oops for some reason I had Oudin stuck in my head, when in fact it's called Odin. Silly me.

Now have you been taking lessons from Butters in prickery on the sly Harry?

I must admit, if you wanted lessons on how to be a complete prick, Butters would be the Dai-sensai.

His Dumbfuckery is quite exceptional as well.

Back on Topic, what would happen if you stuck your phone in Oudin as apposed to Odin? Would it vibrate?

Originally Posted by 9999

Back on Topic, what would happen if you stuck your phone in Oudin as apposed to Odin? Would it vibrate?

It might improve her ground strokes.

Originally Posted by 9999

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

flashing an old phone with a new ROM

Is this a correct statement? I'm not sure myself.

I thought 'flashing' had to do with firmware and meant the same as a re-format and re-partition, or in PC equivalent, 'flashing' BIOS and installing an OS.

Whereas you can install new and updated ROMs without having to re-format, or 'flash' (install new firmware), right?

Think I'm just confused about the term 'flashing'.

Flash memory is non-volatile, rewritable memory. So no matter where the firmware, bootloaders, ROMs exactly reside, when you overwrite them, it's generically called "Flashing".

Originally Posted by baldrick

the galaxy i9100 s 2 screen is excellent - and fcuk it is responsive

so far I think it is a great phone - the plastic back is not an issue , and it help to grip it

if I was going to complain about anything it would be that it is so thin .

now I need to learn a bit more of this android os

Where did you get it from, and how much?

And what version of Android is on it?