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    Dual Core. Is it worth it?

    I'm considering getting a new computer.

    My present computer is a 3.2Mhz single core.
    I usually only have one application running plus Skype, Incredimail & NOD32.
    If I get a dual 2.2Mhz computer will my one application run faster or slower ?

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    The Intel Dual Cores are the dog's bollocks. I'm sure you'll see an improvement over the old machine especially if it's some old AMD chip.

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    Whats the next big thing to be brought out though?

    I was thinking about a new computer the other day, but when I went to the shop it was all still Intell Dual Cores, I've had one of those for years and I know if I buy another one, the next generation computer will come out the following week.

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    I doubt unless you really use your pc hard you will find any benefits at all Thetyim.

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    Your skype nor mail will not be affected by using a 3 year old piece of shite motherboard or the latest most expensive one.

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    You will notice an improvement in performance by running a dual core processor... Windows has sooo many threads running asynchronously that it saps performance... Offloading these background threads to multiple CPUs spreads the load... Some of our production servers now boast #4 dual core processors for 8-way processing and then we cluster multiple servers together for some real horsepower...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    I'm sure you'll see an improvement over the old machine especially if it's some old AMD chip.
    I suspect that any improvement I see will be due to having SATA 2 hard disk instead of PATA
    My present computer is Intel and I would prefer to go back to an AMD.

    I don't really understand all the jargon but the AMD have the memory control in the CPU and this is better than the Intel with a chip on the mobo.

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    windows xp is able to use both cores?

    Windows uses 2 percent of the cpu on this old pc.

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    If your going to be using vista, then i`d recommend duel core. I would imagine when windows 7 comes out single core will be more or less obsolete.

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    ^^ Yep, XP can make use of dual core... The last 2 laptops I've had were dual core and they were noticeably faster than prior models...

    x64 should be the next question... We're migrating everything from x32 to x64 and there are some obstacles...

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    So xp spreads the 2 percent use to 1 percent each core? seems really worthwhile investing in this technology, as I said, most people don't use their pcs hard enough to warrant it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muadib
    You will notice an improvement in performance by running a dual core processor... Windows has sooo many threads running asynchronously that it saps performance... Offloading these background threads to multiple CPUs spreads the load...
    I agree, run task manager and see how many processes are running. I assume you are dissatisfied with something else you wouldn't consider upgrading.

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    DD's right... Most people never tax their PCs that much... Let's face it, if the extent of your usage is running a web browser, word processing & spreadsheet apps, you don't need dual core... But when you start running memory / cpu intensive apps & games, you will notice a difference...

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    I went from dual core to quad core, for day to day shit there was a slight speed increase in opening apps and shit, where i found the major difference was ripping and converting dvd's, IE; i use Allok Avi to Dvd, on the dual core it used to take approx 45 minutes to convert a movie, now its takes less than 25 minutes.

    Not overly expensive either, built a complete new system, quad core [at] 2.66Ghz, decent MB, mid spec graphics card, 8gb of ram, 600w thermaltake psu all in a cooler master case am running 64bit win7 cost was a tad under 24,000b

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
    I'm considering getting a new computer.

    My present computer is a 3.2Mhz single core.
    I usually only have one application running plus Skype, Incredimail & NOD32.
    If I get a dual 2.2Mhz computer will my one application run faster or slower ?
    You would be better off paying the insignificant difference in price to get the dual core CPUs -- simply because dual core CPUs are 64-bit capable. Single core are not.

    This *will* make a difference *IF* you ever plan to install the 64-bit version of any Windows OS - notably that you will be able to address more than 3GB of RAM on your system. (Regular Windows XP can't use any more than 3GB of RAM, no matter how much you have installed, no matter what other 'experts' tell you).

    In terms of where you will see the most difference in performance on your system, it is, quite simply, RAM and a fast hard drive. Most medium speed CPUs are quite fine for 90% of what you plan on doing - but the bottleneck is invariably when people skimp out on RAM (using systems with less than 2GB of RAM), or trudging along with olders, slow hard drives.

    Of course, the catch-22 is that to use more than 3GB of RAM, you'll need a Dual Core CPU, and to utilize that, a 64-Bit operating system :-)

    Barring that, get a decent 2.0GHz Core2Duo CPU, 3GB of RAM, and a fast (7200RPM) hard drive with a 16mb cache, and you will be fine - and set up that you can upgrade easily later, should you so choose, via a 64-Bit OS upgrade, to support more RAM.

    (in other words, if you are considering Windows 7, go with the 64-bit version; if you are sticking with Windows XP, find the 64-bit version from your local Panthip Plaza ....)

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    Dual cores are fast and you will notice some speed improvement , but whether it makes any practical difference will depend on what your are doing with your comp.

    the real upside is you will have a spare computer to play with
    try new operating sytems on it etc , make it into a NAS or media centre . it only needs a screen for install then you can run it without monitor , KB , mouse - just VNC to it and use it. very easy.

    I tried a AMD 3200 , 1 gig ram , nvidia GT6600 with xppro32 the other day driving 720p to the LCD - media player classic home cinema , BBC earth - and the processor was 80-100% with some stutter - the OS and machine are used by the PEBKACs so a fresh install would probably allow it to run smoother.


    Quote Originally Posted by Muadib
    Some of our production servers now boast #4 dual core processors for 8-way processing and then we cluster multiple servers together for some real horsepower...
    build a Ikea Helmer super computer Building home linux render cluster

    a few of these 24 core setups floating around the web.
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    3.2Ghz is quite a beast already, don't see why you would need something more than that, just for browsing and Skype (a bloated piece of crap)

    not worth it,

    I run a P3 900Mhz, with an Optimized Win2000 and it's super fast !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim
    I don't really understand all the jargon but the AMD have the memory control in the CPU and this is better than the Intel with a chip on the mobo.
    I used to think AMDs were better, but the Intel Dual Core chips are unbeatable for the price. They also run very cool and are super efficient with power usage. You will not regret buying one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaffyDuck
    You would be better off paying the insignificant difference in price to get the dual core CPUs -- simply because dual core CPUs are 64-bit capable. Single core are not.
    I don't understand that.
    My D352 CedarMill 3.2 Mhz is 64bit
    Why would it not be 64 bit capable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
    My D352 CedarMill 3.2 Mhz is 64bit
    Why would it not be 64 bit capable?
    You're lucky, it's a slighly crippled Cedar Mill renamed with the Celeron name, and has some decent overclocking potential for an older chip - it claims the famous '64-bit ready' statement, which implies some 64-bit capabilities, but you still end up being shortchanged on performance -- it only has 512kb of cache, lacks HyperThreading (so your multitasking suffers), and it lacks the advantages that 64-bit would give you.

    I was talking about intel's current generation of Core2Duo CPUs, versus their prior Core Solo CPUs. You can't go wrong with any of their Core2Duo family.

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    Dual core can be had for as little as 2200b, core 2 duo start at 4000b

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    if computers were cars would you need a 6 wheel drive 20 gear super charged quad turbo ferrari to nip down to your local 7/11?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    if computers were cars would you need a 6 wheel drive 20 gear super charged quad turbo ferrari to nip down to your local 7/11?

    If i could afford one, hell yeah !!!

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    ^I should have added to that, "with a 70mph speed restrictor built in" ie on par with your normal internet connection

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    Looking around I don't seem to have much of an option, there are very few single cores on the market now.

    A friend of mine has just bought an Intel E7400, 2 X 2.8Ghz
    It feels slower than my computer 1 X 3.2Ghz



    (Sorry, I got my Mhz and Ghz confused earlier and cannot edit now)

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