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    Sample warning letter - language specialists please help

    I have a staff who often arrives late. It seems to me that coming late is his habbit now. Initially, verbal warnings did the trick for a week or two. I think it's about time to serve him a written notice.

    Can someone help me with the wordings please?

    The letter is in the following format:

    1. Description of infraction.
    2. Plan for improvement.
    3. Consequences of further infraction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by machangezi
    I have a staff who often arrives late
    Silly question probably, but where? Staff here in Thailand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by machangezi View Post
    I have a staff who often arrives late. It seems to me that coming late is his habbit now. Initially, verbal warnings did the trick for a week or two. I think it's about time to serve him a written notice.

    Can someone help me with the wordings please?

    The letter is in the following format:

    1. Description of infraction.
    2. Plan for improvement.
    3. Consequences of further infraction.
    Very happy to help. My charge-out rate is currently US$325 per hour

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    Quote Originally Posted by William
    My charge-out rate is currently US$325 per hour
    Fecking lawyers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ant
    Silly question probably, but where? Staff here in Thailand?
    Indeed in Thailand. Have to serve it to a farang though.
    Quote Originally Posted by William
    Very happy to help. My charge out rate is currently US$325 per hour
    It will prolly take 5 minutes to do that. So it will be $27.1.
    Deal Will.

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    ^trust me, for someone who uses "wordings", it'll take longer than 5 minutes Probably half a day's work in it

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    Quote Originally Posted by machangezi
    Indeed in Thailand. Have to serve it to a farang though
    Ahh righto, well then William and his exorbidant US$325p/h is probably your man then. I wouldn't have the first clue about Thai labour laws. UK either for that matter, although I can do a reasonable approximation of a bluff

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    You must include in the letter when and where the verbal warning was given.

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    Also give him a copy of the letter and get him to sign the original which you keep

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    ^damn internet is taking food out of the mouths of babes!

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    Actually, I have prepared it. Want to get our expert language consultants' magical words.

    Here's what I have prepared.

    1. Description of infraction
    It has been observed that you continuously arrive late at office, despite several verbal warnings, resulting in willful insubordination and gross negligence of duties, in your capacity as coordinator.
    You are advised to submit a written explanation on your bad timekeeping as soon as you receive this letter.
    Kindly treat this as very urgent.

    2. Plan for improvement
    Arrive office at 8 20am.

    3. Consequences of further infraction
    Arriving late at office is a misconduct for which your are making yourself liable for necessary action. You are hereby warned to refrain from such activities; failure to do so shall invoke appropriate action.

    Corrections and additions would be highly appreciated.
    Last edited by machangezi; 19-10-2007 at 10:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
    You must include in the letter when and where the verbal warning was given.

    Legalservices Shop: Create your document

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    Helpful links Thetyim, but you have to be careful with things like this. What's good for the goose isn't always good for the gander, a document valid for one jurisdiction may not be valid for another (although I suspect that, in this instance, a valid UK format probably would exceed Thai requirements if anything). Clearly pays to check at any rate.

    That's where over-priced lawyers like William come in

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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    ^trust me, for someone who uses "wordings", it'll take longer than 5 minutes Probably half a day's work in it
    Damn Will, you're an expensive solicitor. How do I pay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by machangezi View Post
    our expert language consultants' magical words.
    In which case, I shall hand the matter over to CMn

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    ^^^ Agreed.
    I doubt if thai law even has a written warning system.

    I think the important thing here is to ensure that the employee is made to feel that the situation is being dealt with fairly

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    Quote Originally Posted by William
    damn internet is taking food out of the mouths of babes!
    so are your rates

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
    ^^^ Agreed.
    I doubt if thai law even has a written warning system.

    I think the important thing here is to ensure that the employee is made to feel that the situation is being dealt with fairly
    True Thetyim.

    I don't think he has any reason to think that he's being dealt with unfairly as the thumb scanners do not lie.

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    T - on a slightly more serious note, it would depend on what was written in the work rules of the company

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    ^ Employee handbook clearly states that bad timekeeping is something that always interupt our operations and also results in firm's disrepute (if the employees working off site). For that matter we created performance expectations for all staff. The second expectation being "timekeeping" with 20% weight.

    Any suggestion Will?

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    ^do the work rules state written warnings are required as part of the termination for cause process? If so, it is likely you would need to issue these. In fact, to be safe, as Thai labour law is very employee friendly, follow the procedures set out in the work rules to the letter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will
    ^do the work rules state written warnings are required as part of the termination for cause process?
    Yes it does. Actually, it says two verbal warnings followed by two written.
    In fact, to be safe, as Thai labour law is very employee friendly, follow the procedures set out in the work rules to the letter.
    Thanks Will. Any other suggestion mate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by machangezi
    Thanks Will. Any other suggestion mate?
    You do realise he's charging you by the hour right?

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    ^ Yes I do. I even paid him, in advance, for 6 hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by machangezi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Will
    ^do the work rules state written warnings are required as part of the termination for cause process?
    Yes it does. Actually, it says two verbal warnings followed by two written.
    In fact, to be safe, as Thai labour law is very employee friendly, follow the procedures set out in the work rules to the letter.
    Thanks Will. Any other suggestion mate?
    one would assume you have given both verbal warnings - right?

    Ant, the babes need feeding *or at least a lady drink or two*

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    Quote Originally Posted by machangezi
    Yes I do. I even paid him, in advance, for 6 hours.
    Well if you can afford that, fire this guy for tardiness and give me his job. I'll be in at the office 8:15am on the dot every morning!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by machangezi
    Yes I do. I even paid him, in advance, for 6 hours.
    Well if you can afford that, fire this guy for tardiness and give me his job. I'll be in at the office 8:15am on the dot every morning!
    Do you have a TEFL certificate?

    He's getting 50k / month.

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