Thread: Trump to announce Jerusalem as capital of Israel

The Art of the Deal (1987)...this is how Donald Trump negotiates.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

No they didn't, only silly little fuckers like you.

Most countries will not recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel unless it is part of a negotiated settlement between the Israelis and Palestinians, you fucking moron.

No wonder your bargirl left you, you must have driven her crackers with your endless torrent of nonsense.

Listen, let me explain .
A Country, any Country can declare its own Capital city and it doesnt matter whether any other Country recognises that, it makes no difference .
West Jerusalem is Israeli land, no disputes about that from anyone, (apart from the Israel has no right to exist Brigade ) and that isnt negotiable
East Jerusalem is the disputed land .
May I ask you a general knowledge question Harry ?
What is the Capital city of Israel ?

Anyway, time to let the adults back in the room. As Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said, it changes nothing. The proposed site of the proposed future US embassy (which may or may not go ahead) is safely inside Israel, in west Jerusalem. Probably some bellwether Arab state should, in a tit for tat gesture, recognize east Jerusalem as the capital of Palestine. But it also would change nothing.

It may even prove useful, now that the US has put some air between themselves and the peace process- after all, they have only ever stuffed it up, certainly since Camp David, and damaged their reputation as an international hegemon in the process. "Partner for Peace" my arse- they have only ever ran interference for the criminal Israeli government in recent history. Let the adults back in, and just maybe some progress will be made- but as far as I'm concerned the one state solution (combined Israel/Palestine) looks the only feasible option now.

As long as the occupied Palestinian people are finally granted their legal and human rights, and worldwide diplomatic recognition of Israel, Israeli passports, plus the further opening up of trade links ensues- it's job done as far as I'm concerned. One state or two- rhubarb.

Originally Posted by sabang

but as far as I'm concerned the one state solution (combined Israel/Palestine) looks the only feasible option now.
As long as the occupied Palestinian people are finally granted their legal and human rights, and worldwide diplomatic recognition of Israel, Israeli passports, plus the further opening up of trade links ensues- it's job done as far as I'm concerned. One state or two- rhubarb.

Yep, I think that you've found the solution to the problem there Sabang .
I suggest that you send your idea to the Israeli Government and the Palestinian leadership and also to MR Trump and the U.N
They have probably not thought about that "solution" before .
Send an E-mail to the above mentioned people .
There is a new round of peace talks due to be held soon and they might invite you to the meeting to broker a peace deal between the warring factions .
If its successful and I see no reason as to why it shouldnt be, YOU may even get named "Time, man of the year"and you may even receive a Noble peace prize .
Get those E-mails sent right away, we have no time to lose .
You may stop the whole middle east going up in flames

Meanwhile, trumps approval rating hits a new low:-

Trump's 32-percent approval rating is a new low in the Pew poll. The group's most recent survey, conducted in October, found Trump held a 34 percent approval rating after three consecutive surveys dating back to February measured his approval rating at 39 percent.

The 63 percent of Americans who disapprove of Trump's job as president is the highest Pew has measured in the poll, topping a previous high of 59 percent in Pew's October survey.


Trump's approval among Republicans has fallen since February. The poll finds that 76 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning voters approve of Trump's job as president compared to 84 percent in February.

Trump has also lost support among other key groups in the past eight months, according to the poll.
Forty-one percent of white Americans say they approve of Trump compared to 49 percent in February. His support among white evangelical Protestants has also dropped from 78 percent in February to 61 percent in the December survey.


The poll also finds Trump's approval rating at this point in this presidency sits far lower than his recent predecessors. The next-lowest approval rating at this point in a presidency belongs to former President Bill Clinton, who held a 48 percent approval rating in 1993.


Former President Obama held a 49 percent approval rating at this point during his first term in 2009, and 80 percent of Americans approved of former President George W. Bush's job as president in 2001 after Bush received a surge in approval following the September 11, 2011 terrorist attacks.


The poll was conducted from November 29 to December 4 among 1,503 adults.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartanntp

And of course, trumps latest trumpism has gone down like lead balloon at home-



The decision is not popular at home, either. Trump’s own Department of Defense and Secretary of State tried to talk him out of it, according to multiple reports. Just 16% of Jewish-Americans favor unilaterally moving the embassy to Jerusalem, which Palestinians also claims as their capital, according to a survey of “American Jewish Opinion” taken in September. Overall, 63% of Americans oppose the move.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...cid=spartanntp

Onya Donald, you tell 'em.

Originally Posted by Fluke

Listen, let me explain .

Like you explained about "Jordon" you feeble-minded chump.

Just STFU Fluke, you haven't got a fucking clue.

Originally Posted by sabang

as far as I'm concerned the one state solution (combined Israel/Palestine) looks the only feasible option now.

Which is exactly what you've got and it's causing misery for millions. Plus the ones that have to listen to Fluke trying to wrap his empty little head around it.

Originally Posted by Fluke

May I ask you a general knowledge question Harry ?
What is the Capital city of Israel ?

Are you finding that question a bit difficult Harry ?
I tell you what I will do, I will give you a multiple choice question :

Harrybarracuda, for the 10 Shekel question :
What is the Capital of Israel ?
Is it :
A . New York
B. Tel Aviv
C. Cape Towm
D. Jerusalem

Originally Posted by Fluke

Are you finding that question a bit difficult Harry ?
I tell you what I will do, I will give you a multiple choice question :

Harrybarracuda, for the 10 Shekel question :
What is the Capital of Israel ?
Is it :
A . New York
B. Tel Aviv
C. Cape Towm
D. Jerusalem

Miami.

Flake, what is the capital of Palestine?

1- Riyadh
2- Ramallah
3- Tel Aviv
4- Jerusalem

Originally Posted by sabang

Flake, what is the capital of Palestine?

1- Riyadh
2- Ramallah
3- Tel Aviv
4- Jerusalem

Can I phone a friend ?
"Sure can Fluke, who would you like to call"
"I would like to call my mate Harrybarracuda, hes an expert on these things "
"Ring ring, ring ring, ring ring............"

Fluke were you that guy i was reading about who had a head transplant?

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Fluke were you that guy i was reading about who had a head transplant?

Yes, although I provided the bottom half

Originally Posted by Fluke

Are you finding that question a bit difficult Harry ?
I tell you what I will do, I will give you a multiple choice question :

Harrybarracuda, for the 10 Shekel question :
What is the Capital of Israel ?
Is it :
A . New York
B. Tel Aviv
C. Cape Towm
D. Jerusalem

All of them have large Jewish communities but they are not the Capital,

Washinton DC
is.

Trump Tower.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Trump Tower.

That will be the new Solomon rebuilt Temple on the mount. Trump will accend to heaven from there one day.
Americas first Prophet .

There can be no peace until the Palestineans accept Jerusalem as the Capital of Israel. In return Israel will have to accept a Palestinean State with also Jerusalem as Capital.

A Capital of two states.

Originally Posted by Fluke

Can I phone a friend ?
"Sure can FLAKE, who would you like to call"
"I would like to call my mate Harrybarracuda, hes an expert on these things "
"Ring ring, ring ring, ring ring............"

Fixed that for you... oh and harrynomates most certainly would be anyone's "call a friend" because that fvcker, like you, has no friends.

Originally Posted by wasabi

All of them have large Jewish communities but they are not the Capital,

Washinton DC
is.

I would have said Tel Aviv is the capital of USA

Al-Jazeera just airing Live from UNSC...

(Cannot find it on VOA)

Originally Posted by Fluke

Listen, let me explain .
A Country, any Country can declare its own Capital city and it doesnt matter whether any other Country recognises that, it makes no difference .
West Jerusalem is Israeli land, no disputes about that from anyone, (apart from the Israel has no right to exist Brigade ) and that isnt negotiable
East Jerusalem is the disputed land .
May I ask you a general knowledge question Harry ?
What is the Capital city of Israel ?

This is just the media spinning a relocation of an embassy into meaning something that it can't possibly mean.
Bolivia's got two capitals and one embassy... the embassy is the manifestation of the relationship between two countries, and it doesn't really matter where it is; and often there'll be several consulates and other sub branches...
The Jerusalem embassy act was reportedly passed in 1995, so go on about it is a bit disingenuous - why did Obama chicken out of it?

As for ownership, it's so obvious that Jerusalem can't really be a functional capital of a state, as it's a major religious centre, and the most reasonable rational solution is for Jerusalem to become a UN supported city state, along the lines of the Vatican. IT would have been a good model for Constantinople too. That has no bearing on Israel's right to exist or not, and is absolutely negotiable, and you can't just pretend like it isn't a problem to . Britain has a stronger claim to running Jerusalem than Israel, given that Israel was founding by an illegal revolt against the British protectorate.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

The Israel created by Europeans and which displaced the natives.

Hey listen you silly Schmuck ! Show me one country, I repeat, just one country in this world where so called natives have not been displaced ? Hungary, Canada, China, Germany, France, Myanmar, Russia maybe you want to try Mars....Jupiter ?
Now why should the Palis get a bonus for being displaced?
We all know dam well if it was the other way around Jews and Christians would not get a break (from your muzzie brothers) what so ever.
If so......please name a Muslim country where so.
Jews and Christians are being oppressed in every muslim country in this world....and that is a FACT ! Schmuck!

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Hey listen you silly Schmuck ! Show me one country, I repeat, just one country in this world where so called natives have not been displaced ? Hungary, Canada, China, Germany, France, Myanmar, Russia maybe you want to try Mars....Jupiter ?
Now why should the Palis get a bonus for being displaced?
We all know dam well if it was the other way around Jews and Christians would not get a break (from your muzzie brothers) what so ever.
If so......please name a Muslim country where so.
Jews and Christians are being oppressed in every muslim country in this world....and that is a FACT ! Schmuck!

I don't usuallu resort to name calling (except for the resident jerk), and I'm sorely tempted to bring myself down to your level here, but I won't.

Your argument about displaced natives is hollow. What happened 200 or 2000 years ago has nothing to do with events since the UN, the Geneva Convention, and International Law were established.
Same goes for your silly "Well Muslims persecute Jews elsewhere, thus Jews are allowed to persecute Muslims in Palestine". Actually, I give you credit here in that you are essentially admitting that the Palestinians are persecuted, which is a step up from Fluke's refusal to do so.

BTW, there are plenty of countries where natives have never in history been displaced. Almost all of the Pacifica countries (a dozen or so ?), and I suspect a few African countries. No bonus to the Palestinians, but just because it happened many times in the past does not justify European Jews doing it them today. And it is happening today.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

No bonus to the Palestinians, but just because it happened many times in the past does not justify European Jews doing it them today. And it is happening today.

Yes, that's what the old lady Helen Thomas said to them (but how they slated her for that), why the Palestinians should suffer under Yews for what the Germans did to them...

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Yes, that's what the old lady Helen Thomas said to them (but how they slated her for that), why the Palestinians should suffer under Yews for what the Germans did to them...

And Israeli apologists always miss the irony of how the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians similar to what they claim victimhood for under the Nazis ie systematic extermination, oppression, and dominance at the end of a gun.