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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post


    While a bunch of repulsive animals on this thread shamefully try to blame immigrants for the conflagration the Chancellor of the Exchequer has confirmed that the cladding used on Grenfell Tower contained polyethylene and that its use was banned in the UK and the rest of Europe.
    I agree,

    But those Darkies don't do any rules and fire safety comes a sad last.

    Hence shit happens huh.

    Don't believe me,

    Check out police records and call out fire records to these black arsed ghettos.

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    If the taxi driver had tried to put out, what the next door woman said was a small fire, things might have been different St Bob. Instead he packed his bag, door open and buggered off after knocking one door. Still lets not blame him thats reserved for others.

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    They should make immigrants attend fire safety courses, electrical appliance maintenance etc
    Mud hut in Ethiopia straight to London tower block living is a bad idea.


    Whats that prat Philip Hammond talking about it for?
    aint there a more specialist minister that deals with building safety?
    he sounds as clear as mud too - if it is really banned etc...

    Asked about this by the BBC’s Andrew Marr, The Chancellor said: "My understanding is the cladding in question, this flammable cladding which is banned in Europe and the US, is also banned here.
    "So there are two separate questions. One, are our regulations correct, do they permit the right kind of materials and ban the wrong kind of materials? The second question is were they correctly complied with?
    "That will be a subject that the inquiry will look at. It will also be a subject that the criminal investigation will be looking at."
    Omnis Exteriors manufactured the aluminium composite material (ACM) used in the cladding, a company director, John Cowley, confirmed to the Guardian
    The website also says Omnis manufactures cladding at a workshop in St Helens and has supplied dozens of building projects around the country.
    It reported a profit of £1.2m last year, the same year in which the ACM it supplied was installed on Grenfell Tower.
    The company also paid a dividend of £950,000 to its sole shareholder, an investment group specialising in construction companies called Xerxes Equity.
    The chairman of Xerxes and its largest shareholder is the corporate grandee Tony Rice, who is a former chief executive of the telecoms multinational Cable & Wireless and is also a trustee of the housing charity Shelter.


    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...mnis-exteriors
    they always have finger in the charity pie too



    Tony Rice his company made the cladding



    The media are disgusting using this tragedy to further political ends,
    eg shout about social inequality, BBC scum are main culprits.
    neglected social housing blah blah blah

    The council spent £10 million on these 120 apartments
    that's £83,000 per flat !!!!!
    (bet they would not have done that if it was British people living there)

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    Most interesting survivor story I have seen, at least he's not ranting and raving like people who did not even live there


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai3 View Post
    If the taxi driver had tried to put out, what the next door woman said was a small fire, things might have been different St Bob. Instead he packed his bag, door open and buggered off after knocking one door. Still lets not blame him thats reserved for others.
    So no need for the criminal investigation or the public enquiry, TDs very own Nazi sex case has sorted it all out. Bet you impressed all the other "specialists" down at the public toilets with your Timmy* impressions and your Famous Five style detective skills.

    ^^Blue, you sound totally insane. You should take some time to calm down.







    *He's so licky! Don't worry if you don't understand, it's a Brit thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post

    The council spent £10 million on these 120 apartments
    that's £83,000 per flat
    So where did the rest of the 270 million quid go that the Kensington and Chelsea borough council has in reserve for local development?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post

    The council spent £10 million on these 120 apartments
    that's £83,000 per flat
    So where did the rest of the 270 million quid go that the Kensington and Chelsea borough council has in reserve for local development?
    Into their pockets, of course. I know you already know that but isn't it amazing that even though it's been clearly said over and over again there are still people on this forum who just haven't caught on. This has nothing to do with immigrants, this is prima facie a corruption case and that's why there is so much outrage.

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    A summer of London riots beckons....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chittychangchang View Post
    A summer of London riots beckons....
    Good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    ^^Blue, you sound totally insane. You should take some time to calm down.
    it's like saying the same to him ...



    True I am insane but not un-calm.

    London has purposely ethnic cleansed the working class Brits, to 'rub their noses in diversity'.

    Now these 'new Brit' tenants are complaining about corruption at the council ????
    that's rich-
    half of them handing Mohamud at the housing office a £xxxx brown envelope to get the tenancy.

    For decades normal people have been saying immigrants and asylum seekers gets pushed to the front of, thousands long housing waiting list, so called queue.
    ''No'', you lefties said it is an urban myth,
    Wheres your evidence they asked?

    Well here it is: Grenfell house; a random apartment block in London, choking to the brim with immigrants .

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post

    The council spent £10 million on these 120 apartments
    that's £83,000 per flat
    So where did the rest of the 270 million quid go that the Kensington and Chelsea borough council has in reserve for local development?
    Into their pockets, of course. I know you already know that but isn't it amazing that even though it's been clearly said over and over again there are still people on this forum who just haven't caught on. This has nothing to do with immigrants, this is prima facie a corruption case and that's why there is so much outrage.
    I say building a block of flats with tax payers money for locals in housing need, then ending up letting them out to 90% foreigners, including even Thais, when the housing waiting list is longer than when the block was built, is a certain type of corruption. Yet the lefties claim mass immigration has had no effect on housing, education and health provision, that's just a lie.

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    The scene inside one of the Grenfell Tower apartments, in a photo releases by the Metropolitan police on Sunday. Photograph: AP





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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post

    it's like saying the same to him ...



    True I am insane but not un-calm.
    Well you've just compared yourself to a Native American, a people and culture that suffered a near genocide at the hands of largely British settlers.

    So yeah, there's something not quite right going on in that head of yours. I don't think you're insane though - more likely just a garden-variety case of being thick and ignorant.

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    Just to add, before the self righteous virtue signalers start to cry about bodies and respect, the pics released posted by Blue are only from flats where all escaped.

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    There's nothing quite like setting up and preemptively 'winning' an argument that precisely nobody has made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    There's nothing quite like setting up and preemptively 'winning' an argument that precisely nobody has made.
    This is the kind of simpleton that has a "Fuck Ramadan" image as his avatar though.

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    Who owns England?


    The truly insane thing about this map are the blue dots showing homes that have been empty for 4,200 – 5,734 days. That’s homes that have lain empty for between 11 and 15 years. I count about 50 of them.

    As the report noted, “High numbers of empty properties can be found in the Brompton and Hans Town Ward and Courtfield” – the most affluent wards in the south-east, at the opposite end of the borough from Grenfell Tower. A tale of two cities, indeed.

    So who owns these empty homes? Kensington Council haven’t published the addresses, clearly wishing to discourage squatting, though I will attempt to get them under Freedom of Information law. Without the precise locations it’s very difficult to research the owners. But knowing that the biggest rash of empty homes is in Brompton & Hans Town Ward, we can draw some broad conclusions.

    Firstly, the area is plagued by offshore owners. As Private Eye’s map of offshore ownership shows, much of south Kensington has been gobbled up by firms with names like ‘Property International Holdings Ltd’, based in tax havens like the British Virgin Islands, or Bermuda, or Jersey. This is property speculation and tax avoidance of the most socially irresponsible kind, pushing up the price of housing for the rest of us.




    Red properties are owned offshore. Screengrab from map.whoownsengland.org

    Secondly, a huge swathe of this area is owned by the Cadogan Estate.

    This 93-acre estate, spanning most of the properties between Knightsbridge and Sloane Square, as well as further afield, has been in the hands of the Earl Cadogan and his family for over 300 years. The estate’s website has a map of its property empire, reproduced more clearly by Property Week here and below:



    The Cadogan Estate contains some of the most sought-after real estate in London – such as its luxury flats at Cadogan Square, pictured below:





    And yet, incredibly, many of these flats appear not to be lived in, for years at a time. This Evening Standard article from 2014 names Cadogan Square as a particular victim of the ‘buy to leave’ phenomenon:

    “Officials in Kensington and Chelsea’s council-tax department told the Standard that Cadogan Square is the residential spot where empty homes crop up time and again.” The council’s map of empty homes, shown earlier, confirms Cadogan Square to be a true ‘ghost town’, with a high concentration of properties unoccupied for 5, 10, even 15 years.

    https://whoownsengland.org/2017/06/1...in-kensington/

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    Some new cities in China have almost nobody living in them, maybe comrade Corbinski could cut a deal with them?

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    Goes to show the extent to which the wealthy and their money games are cut off from the rest of humanity and the necessities of human existence that the poorer majority are faced with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post

    The council spent £10 million on these 120 apartments
    that's £83,000 per flat
    So where did the rest of the 270 million quid go that the Kensington and Chelsea borough council has in reserve for local development?
    Into their pockets, of course. I know you already know that but isn't it amazing that even though it's been clearly said over and over again there are still people on this forum who just haven't caught on. This has nothing to do with immigrants, this is prima facie a corruption case and that's why there is so much outrage.
    The contractors have their money and Council officials have their share for blind cooperation, no science there; now all that's left is to set up a couple of patsies to take the flack. Shouldn't be too difficult, never is.

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    Not offering this as anything other than an example of politicking of both sides.....

    GRENFELL TOWER BUILT BY A labour council under a labour Government | Pro Great Britain

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    Sadiq Khan was the housing minister in 2008.
    As mayor he produced a report to say that the fire services DID NOT need further funding
    This Pakistani London Mayor has a good PR firm, aided by the MSM
    he's turned the fire somehow, so he's is one of the community against the establishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    There's nothing quite like setting up and preemptively 'winning' an argument that precisely nobody has made.
    This is the kind of simpleton that has a "Fuck Ramadan" image as his avatar though.
    says the avatarless member ...

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    The 26-year-old female firefighter sent to tackle Grenfell Tower fire just five days into the job


    The 26-year-old female firefighter sent to tackle Grenfell Tower fire just five days into the job


    Just five days into the job, 26-year-old April Cachia arrived for her night shift at Shoreditch fire station.
    Hours after arriving - and having never before battled a fire before - she found herself face to face with one of the most devastating infernos in British history.


    Miss Cachia described how at first, she was helping residents flee down the stairs every few minutes or every 30 seconds - and then there was a period where no one came down at all.
    “It would have been about 45 minutes, and that seemed like forever,” she said. But after fearing that all the remaining residents had perished in the flames, suddenly an Asian family of four appeared on the stairwell.
    would have been more of a shock if it was a British family..


    April Cachia during her firefighter training
    It looks like they have the same recruitment policy as the police,
    if you are not female or ethnic minority forget it

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    Women firefighters are a bit of a joke surely? There were a few of them interviewed and one in charge, I don't suppose they do fireman's lifts these days due to health and safety concerns for their backs

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