Thread: 2016 Democratic US Presidential Candidates

^ the retards have been triggered.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by longway

I would not bother mentioing her sex as its unimportant to me...

Vagina milking her vagina

vagina

vagina

vagina wagon

...

Crickey, imagine if it did actually matter to you!

Originally Posted by longway

but she makes it central to her campaign

So what, so do you.

She's a politician and is doing nothing that male politicians haven't been doing since forever in attempting to appeal to different electorates.

The only material difference to you is that she's a woman and that only matters because you're a scared little misogynist.

You probably suffer from a phobia over vagina dentata and are one of those awkward and shy types that simply isn't very successful with the ladies so it has bred resentment in you.

Another retard agrees with me, progress I guess.

Pearls before swine overall.

Originally Posted by longway

Pearls before swine overall.

Those pearls would be your Pavlovian resorts to childish name-calling?

Yeah that'll work. Nobody will notice that you can't make and argue a logical and coherent point.

^ talk about being dragged into the light kicking and screaming. I said vagina is making her vagina a qualification for office, you all now agree with that point, what is there to argue?

I said that you are making it your sole focus because you're a misogynist and that you're a silly little man that responds with childish name-calling.

There's nothing to argue.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Jeezus. I never thought I would say this but I miss boon mee. He at least had some whit and a sense of humor. The knuckle dragging retards who have replaced him are beyond hopeless.

I am not here to entertain you; I have no interest in exchanging banter with you as I have no respect for you whatsoever. If you want some respect, pull your head out of your ass and make a reasonable point.

Whatever I am I am smarter than you lot, you all now pretty much agree with my premise and are just using rationalisations to justify her sexist campaign. Thats fine, its normal. Its no biggie if you think its ok for her to be sexist, but at least you all acknowledge she is sexist.

Originally Posted by longway

I am smarter than you lot

Originally Posted by longway

she is sexist

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

I said that you are making it your sole focus because you're a misogynist and that you're a silly little man that responds with childish name-calling.

There's nothing to argue.

Yes there is no hope for you is there. She is making her primary focus, you have just admitted it. Gotta give it time to sink in I guess.

Sanders takes slim lead over Clinton in Iowa

Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders has climbed to a slim lead over national frontrunner Hillary Clinton in a new Iowa poll.

With just 20 days remaining until the first-in-the-nation caucus, a Quinnipiac University poll released today shows Sanders leading Clinton for the first time in the Hawkeye State with 49 percent support -- his highest support in any Iowa poll yet. Clinton garnered 44 percent support.

That's a 9 percentage point increase for Sanders and a 7-point drop for Clinton since the last Quinnipiac poll in Iowa almost one month ago.

Sanders' lead, which is still barely within the margin of error, is bolstered by a broad gender gap. Sanders, who just earned a critical endorsement from liberal group MoveOn, gets support from six in 10 men and leads Clinton by 31 points among that group. Meanwhile, Clinton leads among women by 16 points.

The poll comes as the Vermont senator's campaign continues to gain momentum in his neighboring state of New Hampshire. He's led recent polling there by double digits, threatening to deliver a blow to Clinton's campaign in the first two contests.

Clinton's top aide sent an email to supporters last week telling them he was "nervous" about Sanders' advertising strength in Iowa and New Hampshire.

Sanders has said the Clinton campaign is "panicky" and in "serious trouble," pointing to general election polling and asserting that he is the more electable candidate. And that argument seems to be moving the scales in Iowa: 68 percent of Democrats say he would have a good chance of winning the general election, up 11 points since December.

“Anybody can win," Clinton told reporters last night when asked whether Sanders can win the presidency. "Who would have thought Donald Trump is leading in national polls?"

Clinton saw across-the-board decreases in her ability to handle key issues in the Quinnipiac polls, down 11 points on healthcare and 7 points on foreign policy.

After Iowa and New Hampshire, Democrats will compete in Nevada and South Carolina, where the most recent polling shows Clinton maintaining a broad lead.

When questioned on the issues, Clinton holds wide advantages on terrorism and foreign policy, while Sanders holds smaller leads on domestic issues like the economy and climate change. They are about even on health care.

Roughly a quarter of Iowa Democrats think Clinton is not honest and trustworthy, doesn't care about their problems and does not share their values. Fewer than one in 10 feel the same way about Sanders on his weaker attributes like being a strong leader and having the right experience.

Bernie Sanders Takes Slim Lead Over Hillary Clinton in New Iowa Poll - ABC News

Hillary has the machine. Bernie a movement. Which will prevail in the end?

Originally Posted by longway

I have no interest in exchanging banter with you as I have no respect for you whatsoever.

You are not capable of exchanging anything because you have a double digit IQ. I didn't think someone could be more stupid than Repeater666 but then you come along....

Originally Posted by longway

If you want some respect, pull your head out of your ass and make a reasonable point.

Life is too short to be spent dancing with idiots.

Originally Posted by longway

Whatever I am I am smarter than you lot

You have a stuttering problem I see.

Originally Posted by Norton

Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders has climbed to a slim lead over national frontrunner Hillary Clinton in a new Iowa poll.

Has baldrick confirmed? ...

B. Obama

"it's not even close"

I think that the take-away from this opinion piece is that we need to invade the U.S. and gift them with Freedom and Democracy(TM).

They'll thank us for it.

Mark Triffitt: US democracy trumps all as a dysfunctional disgrace

12:34 PM Wednesday Jan 13, 201619 comments


Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump speaks during a campaign stop in Windham, New Hampshire. AP photo / Jim Cole

As the rest of the world looks upon America's 2016 presidential race and what has become a disgrace of a democratic system, its bewilderment can be organised around a series of hows and whys.

How can a political and policy freak show like Donald Trump become a serious contender for the job America touts as "leader of the free world"?

Why has the democratic "competition of ideas" become so degraded that Trump's thought bubble to ban more than 20 per cent of the world's population (Muslims) from entering America has passed relatively unimpeded into mainstream policy debate?

More broadly, how can the race for America's top job be so short on facts and logic that nearly every leading 2016 presidential candidate is uttering outright lies, mostly false statements or half-truths at least half the time they open their mouths?

Why will it take nearly US$2 billion in campaign funding to win this year's presidential race and lead a country founded on the idea that "anyone can become president"?

Why, in this day and age, has the top job devolved into a dynastic possession? If Hillary Clinton becomes president in 2016, two families (Bush and Clinton) will have alternated in the White House for 24 of the 32 years from 1989 to 2021.

How and why can the US government spy on its own citizens with a scope and intensity that make the KGB and other former communist spy agencies look like rank amateurs?

Questions such as these go on and on. Separately and collectively, they speak to the absence of the bare bones of a fair, free and moderate democratic system.

Running out of defences

The dwindling ranks of those who line up to defend America's system are able to do so only if they view it through a prism of its lofty 18th-century ideals, rather than 21st-century realities. They typically counter critiques with one or more of the following three arguments.

First, there have always been demagogues, money politics and lies in politics. What is occurring in America today is just a variation of these age-old themes.

Yet everyone else, including many ordinary Americans, recognises America's political system has crossed into a new era of extreme dysfunctionality and inequity. After all, has not a tipping point been reached when the US Congress becomes such a warzone of hyper-partisanship that its current legislators are the most unproductive on record?

Aren't we seeing money politics played out on a cosmic scale when corporate interests spend US$2.6 billion per year to twist what little legislation is passed in Congress to their own ends?

A second argument is that the antics of a Donald Trump are needed to shake up a complacent political class and raise issues that better mirror public opinion.

But that begs another question. Has the American political system fallen so low that it requires a massive injection of anti-democratic behaviour to make it more "democratic"?

The third line of defence is the claim that beneath the mess that is presidential and congressional politics lies a vibrant sea of local and state-based democracy. More than 500,000 public positions are contested via grassroots elections.

The reality, however, is the fish is rotting from the head down.

Disengagement compounds the damage

Many Americans - thanks to the media's relentless coverage of Washington politics - view the value of their broader democratic system through a national lens. As a result of congressional gridlock and a string of high-level corruption and ethical scandals, they are turning off and away from the system wholesale.

The proportion of US citizens who trust government is down to less than one in five.

American democracy's legitimacy crisis is even worse among young Americans. They have been deeply disengaged from what they view as a highly combative, negative and self-serving system. They hardly ever discuss politics, let alone think of pursuing a political career in any shape or form.

This raises the real prospect that increasingly more of America's democratically elected positions will become less contested. Alternatively, they will be captured by the same ideologues and extreme activists who now dominate and distort the national political and policy scene.

The big irony in the massive decline in the quality of America's democratic governance over the past two decades is this: it has coincided with a period in which the US has aggressively stepped up its efforts to promote and embed this same system around the world.

US-led invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan as well as America's support for the Arab Spring of 2011 have been predicated on replacing autocratic regimes with American-style representative democracy. Jawboning China to adopt more democratic practices likewise reflects the same bizarre tendency among many of America's political and policy elites to promote what are damaged goods at home as being somehow "ripe for export".

Many liberal democracies across the Western world are suffering deep-seated ills as their institutions and practices fail to keep up with the 21st-century world. Yet the US has become the outlier of Western democratic dysfunction.

Any assertion it continues to be a beacon for democracy is surpassed only by Trump's most fantastical claims.

Mark Triffitt: US democracy trumps all as a dysfunctional disgrace - World - NZ Herald News

If you care to know....This is exactly what American democracy is about.

Originally Posted by spliff

If you care to know....This is exactly what American democracy is about.

Huh?

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by spliff

If you care to know....This is exactly what American democracy is about.

Huh?

spliff has been hitting the bong again.

Originally Posted by longway

Whatever I am I am smarter than you lot

Umm, so it would so it would seem would seem

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by spliff

If you care to know....This is exactly what American democracy is about.

Huh?

spliff has been hitting the bong again.

It just gets better and better . . .

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by longway

I am smarter than you lot

Originally Posted by longway

she is sexist

from now on you are my bitch. you will always come running whenever i post something.

Originally Posted by longway

Whatever I am I am smarter than you lot, you all now pretty much agree with my premise and are just using rationalisations to justify her sexist campaign. Thats fine, its normal. Its no biggie if you think its ok for her to be sexist, but at least you all acknowledge she is sexist.

Interesting to note that if "vagina" is the main argument used against her, then "cock" is the only argument the opposition can turn to.

And the're losing....

^ i find her sexist demogoguery crass and one dimensional, which is why i refer to vagina as vagina, it being as crass and one dimensional as her main campaign message.

You are not bright enough to understand its not an argument against her, as its irrelevant, but a reference to the import she gives tosomething thst should be unimportant.

Originally Posted by longway

I am smarter than you lot

...

Originally Posted by longway

you are my bitch

Originally Posted by longway

You are not bright enough

Originally Posted by longway

dummy

Originally Posted by longway

dumb

Originally Posted by longway

retard

Originally Posted by longway

retards

Originally Posted by longway

vagina

Yeah, just doesn't really compute does it. I think you're going to have some difficulties convincing anyone else of how smart you think you are.

But hey as long as you believe it that's all that counts. Right.

Originally Posted by longway

^ i find her sexist demogoguery crass and one dimensional, which is why i refer to vagina as vagina, it being as crass and one dimensional as her main campaign message.

You are not bright enough to understand its not an argument against her, as its irrelevant, but a reference to the import she gives tosomething thst should be unimportant.

You are a fucking nutjob.

Originally Posted by longway

You are not bright enough to understand its not an argument against her, as its irrelevant, but a reference to the import she gives tosomething thst should be unimportant.

I understand that you're trying to make is so by attacking her on only that level. You call it an agrugument, but it's not an argument--not even a thought, really--to anyone who has the capacity to deal in even the simplst of concepts that don't involve a body part. She's a woman so she touts her support of issues that appeal to women. If there were not gender inequality it would not be necessary. You and your bum buddies seem to be threatened by the possibility that these issues can be discussed and resolved. But you want to be a man, so you support demagogary that makes you feel more like a man--calling people by their sexual parts. Why don't you be a real man and address real issues with real thoughts instead of you puerile school boy obsessions.

Excellent post.

Tipper is in his eyrie, longway reflects the present state of the union