Thread: Romanization of Falong/Farang/Farung

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Do you think it's worth pointing out to him the difference between light L and dark L and that Thais don't really say falang?
Nah, didn't think so.

DrB,

Have you ever been to Thailand?

RickThai

Originally Posted by RickThai

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Do you think it's worth pointing out to him the difference between light L and dark L and that Thais don't really say falang?
Nah, didn't think so.

DrB,

Have you ever been to Thailand?

RickThai

<sigh>


Have you ever bothered using the search function on the forum before asking stupid questions?

Originally Posted by RickThai

You might be able to fool some of the more gullible (and perhaps less intelligent) posters, but I know better.

Originally Posted by RickThai

You need to have more self-confidence in yourself and learn to think independently.

Originally Posted by RickThai

All of my posted views are based upon personal knowledge, experience, education, and intelligence.

Originally Posted by RickThai

It usually means that I am just smarter than most of the posters and they are limited in their ability to understand my views

Originally Posted by RickThai

That is the beauty of being an original, independent thinker.

The last one is the best, I'll give you a 4.5/10

smeg does it better, but with some more practice you might be able to catch up.

Originally Posted by RickThai

I also suppose someone needs to teach all the Thais who mispronounce ฝรั่ง (according to your "farang" transliteration) to pronounce the word properly.

Originally Posted by RickThai

It must be interesting to go through life with such a narrow, regimented view of life.

Originally Posted by RickThai

Santi

It doesn't really matter how you transliterate it Rick, the reality is it has only one correct pronounciation in Thai and it sounds nothing like Falong.

Originally Posted by Necron99

It doesn't really matter how you transliterate it Rick, the reality is it has only one correct pronounciation in Thai and it sounds nothing like Falong.

Actually, Thais (like native speakers if any language) have regional variances in how they pronounce words.

For example, in the USA people in the south pronounce words differently than they do in the north. Sometimes the pronunciation of local dialects is so different it can be difficult to understand.

So to make a blanket statement like "the reality is it has only one correct pronounciation in Thai and it sounds nothing like Falong" is totally inaccurate.

RickThai

Back in the 1970s, I always heard Thais refer to them as "dom dom poo-chai", but I haven't heard any Thais make any reference to them at all in the last 40 years.

RickThai

Shouldnt that be "dam" rather than "dom"?

^

Originally Posted by RickThai

Originally Posted by Necron99

It doesn't really matter how you transliterate it Rick, the reality is it has only one correct pronounciation in Thai and it sounds nothing like Falong.

Actually, Thais (like native speakers if any language) have regional variances in how they pronounce words.

For example, in the USA people in the south pronounce words differently than they do in the north. Sometimes the pronunciation of local dialects is so different it can be difficult to understand.

So to make a blanket statement like "the reality is it has only one correct pronounciation in Thai and it sounds nothing like Falong" is totally inaccurate.

RickThai

Some pla ra raised hillbilly on the Lao border might say it, but it is not correct.
There is a correct way to pronounce English, just as there is Thai. Regional accents are just that, accents, a deviation from the correct way to pronounce it.

[QUOTE=Necron99;2486297.
Some pla ra raised hillbilly on the Lao border might say it, but it is not correct.
There is a correct way to pronounce English, just as there is Thai. Regional accents are just that, accents, a deviation from the correct way to pronounce it.[/QUOTE]

As determined by the "falongs" of Teakdoor?

RickThai

Originally Posted by taxexile

Back in the 1970s, I always heard Thais refer to them as "dom dom poo-chai", but I haven't heard any Thais make any reference to them at all in the last 40 years.

RickThai

Shouldnt that be "dam" rather than "dom"?

I've always heard it pronounced with a short (English short) 'o' but I suppose if you mixed English with Thai it could posssibly be "damn dom" depending upon the mood of the Thai person speaking.

Most English/Thai transliterations include a guide for pronouncing the English letters that quite often do not match the English grammar pronunnciation of the English letters. I am surprised none of the linguistic "experts" haven't metioned this fact.

RickThai

As i'm sure you know, dam means black, and according to the thai spelling, is pronounced exactly like that, dam.

Dom means something else entirely, the verb to smell something, to sniff or to inhale, and so the meaning of your phrase dom dom poochai would be quite different, unless they were suggesting that one should go and smell these folk, which I think is highly unlikely, even in 1970.

Perhaps the confusion in your interpretation has more to do with your hearing than anything else.

Maybe a hearing aid is required ??

Apart from the romanization, since in Thai the adjective comes after the noun, shouldn't it be poo-chai dam dam?

Yes, that also.

Perhaps a diagnosis of transliterational dyslexia should be added to that of hard of hearing

If he cannot tell the difference between Dom and Dam I wonder if he constantly orders water and gets milk?

Originally Posted by taxexile

As i'm sure you know, dam means black, and according to the thai spelling, is pronounced exactly like that, dam.

Dom means something else entirely, the verb to smell something, to sniff or to inhale, and so the meaning of your phrase dom dom poochai would be quite different, unless they were suggesting that one should go and smell these folk, which I think is highly unlikely, even in 1970.

Perhaps the confusion in your interpretation has more to do with your hearing than anything else.

Maybe a hearing aid is required ??

I've never heard it pronounced 'dam'

The color black has always been vocalized to me as "dumb' not 'dam'?

Sii dumb = Black
Sii Keeeow = Green
Sii Leung = Yellow
Sii Faa or Sii Nam neung = Blue

Originally Posted by taxexile

Yes, that also.

Perhaps a diagnosis of transliterational dyslexia should be added to that of hard of hearing

Just terminial stupidity would be nearer the mark. The whole thread was him justifying his spelling of "falong". To me his use of the word "dom" (for black) was just him taking the piss.

If he is serious about hearing the words as "farong" and "dom", it would indicate some possible auditory/neurological damage.

However, despite the overwhelming evidence presented that the words are nearer to "farang/falang" and "dam", he will persist in his assertation that they are "falong" and "dom" - and thats a hallmark of bone deep stupidity.

Dream
Teeth
Rain

In Thai....can you decipher the pronounciations?
It's all so slight to the untrained and conditioned ear - but in Thai, different from the next.

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

Dream
Teeth
Rain

In Thai....can you decipher the pronounciations?
It's all so slight to the untrained and conditioned ear - but in Thai, different from the next.

The one I have trouble with is "Snow"

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

Dream Teeth Rain

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

In Thai....can you decipher the pronounciations?

Fun, Fan and fon. Not too difficult, unless you are a falong.

^I am sure RackThoi will be along shortly to dispute it.

Fun, Fan

The pronunciation of tooth and dream in thai is differentiated purely on tone, not on vowel. both words use the same vowel, so they are both either fun or fan, depending on how you pronounce that vowel.

The hearing of those who use tonal languages seems to place more importance on the sound in the middle of the syllable, i.e. the most relevant part, the tone; whereas the important and relevant parts of non tonal languages are usually found at the beginning and end of the syllable, hence it is difficult for us to catch the tones and difficult for thais to catch the endings of english words.

Perhaps.

^ I bow to your superior understanding of the squiggles

Originally Posted by Spin

squiggles

Sometimes squiggles help. Sometimes only further confuse.
fà-ràng