It's official - Britain is shit.

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Originally Posted by khmen

What exactly do you see out and about? You see loads of Eastern Europeans claiming benefits do you? How's that then? Do you see them at the job centre when youre signing on yourself? What I see is Eastern European women cleaning toilets English women won't clean etc while the men work long hours in jobs Brits are either unskilled to do/too lazy to do/think it's beneath them to do.

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Sorry to shatter your illusions, but I have never been unemployed since leaving school. What I can tell you though is, I work in the community, and see many eastern Europeans just hanging around on street corners etc, so obviously not working. What nationality they are, Im not 100% sure. Maybe Romanian, maybe not. Also, I have never come across a skilled eastern European. Of the ones I have come across, who work, they were all doing manual work that anyone could do.

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Originally Posted by khmen

Yeah, same here. The people in my social circles all work hard for a living, but there is more to the UK than my or your immediate social circle. There are millions of unskilled dossers who have never worked a day and are like parasites on the state, as I'm sure you well know. Note the "many" in my quote.

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I totally agree with you, and something should be done about it, but, I doubt it will. They should be found jobs, and told no more benefits.

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Originally Posted by khmen

Again, try hiring a British worker to do a "demeaning" job with long hours for shit pay and see how they perform compared to their Eastern european counterpart. Oh yeah, you can't cos unskilled British scum think that it's somehow beneath them to get their hands dirty in a shitty job despite the fact that they're qualified to do fuck all else!

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Really. Funny that, because some of the wealthiest guys I know, are unskilled "scum". They might not be fine finished tuppeny millionaires in fancy suits, but no one can question their commitment to work, and it paid off for them.

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Originally Posted by khmen

Carry on defending the Great British (non)workforce. If there wasn't so many bum doss cunts laying about there wouldn't be jobs for foreigners to take. It's a free market, tough shit, Britain isn't just for Britons anymore, get used to it.

Hash pipe? More like skunk spliff Granddad, get with the times.

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I have never defended the non workforce, and never will. Please point out where I have. As for grandad, well, unless a four year old can procreate then im pretty sure Im ok for while. Heck, im probably closer to your own age than being a grandad. You want to cut that skunk shit out, it`ll screw your brain up big time. We`ve got one of those "doss cunts" that lives near me. Total pot and pill head for years. Cant hold a job down for more than a few days now. Its ok, I know your different though.

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Originally Posted by English Noodles

No, Rodders. I'm correct. A person from another EU country is not entitled to any benefits in the UK unless they have lived and worked in the UK for at least 12 months.

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An interesting point indeed ,, it makes me wonder where all the Lithuainians + Poles ( hundreds of em ) who are shacked up / block booked into many seafront hotels nearby to us in Clacton on sea were all working for 12 months before they got there new lives here hanging about all day drinking + smoking ,, will have to enquire.

( hope this meets with the mods test as my last completely innofensive reply was deleted ) mabe they meant to delete Kreamer,s foul diatribe and hit the wrong button :mid:

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Originally Posted by nigelandjan

( hope this meets with the mods test as my last completely innofensive reply was deleted ) mabe they meant to delete Kreamer,s foul diatribe and hit the wrong button

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If it's not in English or Thai it gets dumped.

with the way things are going
most places are going to be bottom of the pile soon.
having a good time in the UK now
and enjoying different weather patterns.
lovely.

^
Let's see if you're still enjoying it come mid December Billy!
:)

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Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

If it's not in English or Thai it gets dumped.

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Really ?? mabe the mods were all on hols when we went to Scotland :)

The title of this thread is fucked up, it should read "The British are shit." Geographics have nothing to do with it, if that Island was full of Germans, French, or Italians it wouldn't be as bad as it is, being full of British people makes it bad. Just like I said when the riots were happening in London, it wasn't the Pakis or Poles to blame, it was the Brits. It was the blacks who've lived in Britain for generations, and the native Brits. The natives and those who've assimilated into British culture. The Anglo caker Cuntnadians are the unspoiled British, or your grandfathers British.

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Originally Posted by Mr Gribbs

The title of this thread is fucked up, it should read "The British are shit."

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Mabe you should start another thread then ,,, variety is the spice of life :mid:

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Originally Posted by astasinim

I have never defended the non workforce, and never will. Please point out where I have. As for grandad, well, unless a four year old can procreate then im pretty sure Im ok for while. Heck, im probably closer to your own age than being a grandad. You want to cut that skunk shit out, it`ll screw your brain up big time. We`ve got one of those "doss cunts" that lives near me. Total pot and pill head for years. Cant hold a job down for more than a few days now. Its ok, I know your different though.

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I do agree with some of your points, your situation is obviously a bit different to mine and we see different things where we live and work. I accept that your arguments may be just as valid as mine, just not in my personal experience.

I work in construction and I can honestly say that Poles and Lithuanians specifically are excellent skilled tradesmen as well as many being genuinely friendly, nice people. I count some as personal friends.

I agree that training and jobs should be provided for the "doss cunts" I referred to. Years of uncontrolled immigration has benefited business by hiring fully trained foreign workers without expending capital on training native Brits, and festering benefit culture in sink estates that have conspired to leave the "working" classes in the shambolic state they're currently in.

My feeling is that the rot is too deep now. Without major societal changes brought through long term governmental planning the UK will never improve its economy. Fuck, I could go on for hours on this!

I havent answered your exact points but this multi-quoting lark gets a bit much for me, I'm a computer retard! But, I will say I agree on the Skunk issue also, far too strong nowadays and it makes the lazy even lazier. I have a bit now and then but was mainly just being obnoxious, sorry!

Hey, no problem having a discussion. Thats what these places are all about, right? I also agree with many of your points, especially the part about the rot being too deep. Im glad to hear your surviving in the current climate, and wish you all the best.

Khmen is coming across as well , lets just say sounding heartless and lacking empathy for the unemployed in Britain, and should not really be painting them all with the same brush.
Still I would not laugh if he lost his job to an East European and found himself at the door of the welfare office one day .

As for Eastern Europeans from what's known as the A8 countries, its true that when they joined in 2004 , Britain took out a 7 year transition in which they could not claim benefits unless they worked for 12 months , that has ended now , and they are treated the same as the old European countries migrants are.
Apparently they just have to pass the ‘habitual residency test' to prove they are here to stay
don't know how hard that is .
But i think skint returning Expat Britains have to pass it too to be given welfare.

Also if they find work, East Europeans can claim certain benefits from day one like , Child Benefits even if the child lives in thier home country.
Others, Romanians especially sell the big issue as that enables them to be classed as self employed , then they get housing benefits top ups etc as they are very low earners

Britain lost the plot when many British people found themselves 2nd class citizens in thier own country, especially the young who are not only unable to find work and decent accommodation
but also sneered at and called lazy

It's no surprise lots just give up and drop out .

Good to see like me your eyes are open in the UK Bluey , you can,t beat tellin it like it is on the ground

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Originally Posted by blue

Khmen is coming across as well , lets just say sounding heartless and lacking empathy for the unemployed in Britain, and should not really be painting them all with the same brush.
Still I would not laugh if he lost his job to an East European and found himself at the door of the welfare office one day .

As for Eastern Europeans from what's known as the A8 countries, its true that when they joined in 2004 , Britain took out a 7 year transition in which they could not claim benefits unless they worked for 12 months , that has ended now , and they are treated the same as the old European countries migrants are.
Apparently they just have to pass the ‘habitual residency test' to prove they are here to stay
don't know how hard that is .
But i think skint returning Expat Britains have to pass it too to be given welfare.

Also if they find work, East Europeans can claim certain benefits from day one like , Child Benefits even if the child lives in thier home country.
Others, Romanians especially sell the big issue as that enables them to be classed as self employed , then they get housing benefits top ups etc as they are very low earners

Britain lost the plot when many British people found themselves 2nd class citizens in thier own country, especially the young who are not only unable to find work and decent accommodation
but also sneered at and called lazy

It's no surprise lots just give up and drop out .

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I just typed a long response to you Blue, but realised what I was trying to say is just too lengthy for a response on a forum and I could have written an epic, so I'll just sum it up:

Why should I have any sympathy for someone of working age who is able-bodied and is not currently working, has never worked and has no intention of ever working? They have no respect for their country whatsoever, and are even worse than foreigners taking the piss. They don't fit the title "working class" cos they dont work, they're a fucking parasitical maggot eating funds and giving nothing back.


I'm aware of the many reasons they exist, too many to go into. The same reasons the UK is in its current state, and yes, a big one is uncontrolled immigration, but there is no excuse when one lad from a council estate becomes a tradesman/mechanic/doctor or whatever and the lad next door becomes a long term dole write-off.

BTW. I'm also aware there are many redundant and genuinely out of work people with previous employment history who want to work, but those are the people the dole is meant to help, I'm not reffering to them. Lifes hard for everyone except bankers and politicians these days, people need to be prepared to put the effort in and drop their expectations. Britain is no longer Great.

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Originally Posted by khmen

Britain is no longer Great.

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and the fact people are keen to employ Poles / Lithuainians etc who are prepared to work for the the minimum wage as opposed to indiginous folk for the going rate for the job aint helping either . If the EU members are such good workers they should have to pay them DOUBLE the going rate as opposed to the UK lazy bastards ( your words not mine ) then thye would not be so keen on employing them.

The Thais have many strange ways ( in western eyes ) but you have to admire the way they gaurd the work / employment / land ownership for their own folk .

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Originally Posted by nigelandjan

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Originally Posted by khmen

Britain is no longer Great.

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and the fact people are keen to employ Poles / Lithuainians etc who are prepared to work for the the minimum wage as opposed to indiginous folk for the going rate for the job aint helping either . If the EU members are such good workers they should have to pay them DOUBLE the going rate as opposed to the UK lazy bastards ( your words not mine ) then thye would not be so keen on employing them.

The Thais have many strange ways ( in western eyes ) but you have to admire the way they gaurd the work / employment / land ownership for their own folk .

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British employers aren't unique in selling out their citizens for a profit.

America has been doing it for years, selling workers jobs to Mexico, India and now China.

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Originally Posted by The Bold Rodney

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Originally Posted by billy the kid

1966 when i first arrived in england

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One way ticket on a "Banana Boat" was it? :rolleyes:

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what a fokin bore you are baldy. Potatoes and Guinness Boat.
we don't do bananas.

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Originally Posted by nigelandjan

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Originally Posted by Mr Gribbs

The title of this thread is fucked up, it should read "The British are shit."

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Mabe you should start another thread then ,,, variety is the spice of life :mid:

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How about British Paki MILFs (ok daughters ILF)

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Originally Posted by Mr Gribbs

The title of this thread is fucked up, it should read "The British are shit." Geographics have nothing to do with it, if that Island was full of Germans, French, or Italians it wouldn't be as bad as it is, being full of British people makes it bad. Just like I said when the riots were happening in London, it wasn't the Pakis or Poles to blame, it was the Brits. It was the blacks who've lived in Britain for generations, and the native Brits. The natives and those who've assimilated into British culture. The Anglo caker Cuntnadians are the unspoiled British, or your grandfathers British.

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Keep posting Gribbs,

We gonna enjoy seein ya nail ya foot to da floor man!

Ya really do show the worst side of USA.

Paranoid schizophrenia with psychotic tendencies.

Even worse, though, you're in denial of your own genetic background, like a dog who rolls in stinky stuff to hide its own smell.

Your posts and views are so CIA,.. mate.

Idiot.

mint , i hope there is a civil war to top it all off I left 12 years ago and knew it was a shit hole then

Britain is a blessing to many people. I wish that the people who come there were as much a blessing to Britain. If you don't like the weather or a climate of freedom, there are planes leaving every hour.:UK:

Britain resembles the west in general, just more so.

You have to understand that it is in the british establisment interest to nurture an underclass fighting force, who they can call on and send out to fight wars and go do their raping and pillaging wherever, :)

They are the establishment first line of defence to any boarder.

Yes Seargant, anything you say Sargeant

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Originally Posted by LooseBowels

You have to understand that it is in the british establisment interest to nurture an underclass fighting force,

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Sounds like just about every other place then.

Well now .....a very entertaining thread...

I left the UK back in '71 and have only been back once about 15 years ago from Canada...I found then, as from what I here from friends, that it now has running water and inside toilets in many domiciles...:rolleyes:
Most of older rellies that are still there seem to have a good life with extended holidays spent in Europe or America Thailand etc with all the must have acquisitions that seem to be the norm there now.
Think from a transient expats point of view it is much nicer as a place to be from and a place to visit...many absolutely beautiful places, great cosmopolitan environment, historic interest etc etc...really wish I could enjoy a long holiday there without thinking of the expense.
That said every expat I know that has left UK and returned for visits says that it is not the Britain they knew anymore..but still a nice place to visit .

Yes I would think there is a high percentage of people wishing they could leave for Australia, Canada etc...maybe some even want to come to Thailand, many find it difficult to qualify for visas and others use the latter as an excuse not to leave their comfort zone maybe.

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Originally Posted by Agent_Smith

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Originally Posted by LooseBowels

You have to understand that it is in the british establisment interest to nurture an underclass fighting force,

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Sounds like just about every other place then.

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It is. Except that in the UK, the upper classes have managed to redirect the resentment of Britain's mass tattooed mouth-breathing white proles against the immigrants like the pakis, bengalis, etc. It's like a zombie movie - they can't smell the blood of the people who deserve to be eaten - only the easy victims.

The British case is a bit like the Jews in America and their bought-paid-for politicians in Washington have managed to redirect the fat white trash's self-loathing into hatred against mussies and hispanics (and blacks - but that's pre-Israel). The intelligent middle class of all colours can see what's going on, but can't do much to change it - and probably like it that way anyway. Status quo for them..