Thread: IMF head Dominique Strauss-Kahn : France's would-be president , accused of sex attack

^ he is treated differently,

you don't send a simply accused man to a hardcore prison while waiting for bail,

so they hired an actress as a maid and she plays that trick and gets paid,

Originally Posted by Koojo

Of course it is Butters. Mind you, if he'd been American or English............

Then he would be guilty without charge, can't imagine having a Wanker like "pupa" sitting on any jury...it doesn't warrant thinking about...but it does happen!

Originally Posted by Koojo

Do you think he should be treated any differently to anyone else who had been charged with the same crimes?

Of course he thinks he should be treated differently, he's a french moron (not DSK, "pupa").

Originally Posted by Butterfly

^ he is treated differently, you don't send a simply accused man to a hardcore prison while waiting for bail,

"pupa" give it up for Christ's sake...DSK was and is considered a flight risk that's why he's in a secure jail or he'd have been granted bail.

It's not impossible there's more to this story than meets the eye but it's too early to speculate and your empty rabid ranting "liboturd" posts are boring the arse of me and many others here!

"pupa" you're leading the TD moronic posts, slow down your so far in front nobody not even "social" or "seriouslydumb" could possibly catch you!

Originally Posted by blue

Originally Posted by buriramboy

I see he's been denied bail, thought it was a given he would be bailed so must be serious........

Maybe because France never extradites its wanted citizens , like that Roman Polankski who skipped bail years ago for under age rape.

It's ISRAEL that never extradites its criminals wanted in other countries. Polanski was sheltering in Switzerland.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

it's ridiculous, it's character assasination

Looks like that doesn't it. What looks increasingly likely is that the US is a willing player.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

^ he is treated differently,

you don't send a simply accused man to a hardcore prison while waiting for bail,

Happens to commoners all the time. Now he can get a taste of what the average GUY would go through. A while back in the thread it was commented that he has limited diplomatic privleges (it's about time), so no special treatment. Maybe he will get his chance to punch and kick off one of his violators.

When you are on top it is best to keep your nose clean and set the example, and never never leave oneself open to things of this nature.

He's French so what could you expect.

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

It's still too early to tell if it's a set up, but on the weight of probability I'd say it likely is.

I agree it's too early to form an oppinion if it's a set up and the maid had supposedly been a satisfactory employee for three years?

It's been suggested she works part time and is an aspiring actress?

She's black and lives in a low class apartment in an area used by druggies?

The only question I'd ask is...

"Would you use someone like her to trap SDK or would you use an educated attrcative professional operative who could match him on his own terms both socially and mentaly? I know which person I'd bet on to trap him and it wouldn't be a hotel chamber maid!

And forget about Lewinsky no comparrison with SDK's case, Clinton was a prick! (mind you Hilary wasn't up to much either)!

Originally Posted by Carrabow

Originally Posted by Butterfly

^ he is treated differently,

you don't send a simply accused man to a hardcore prison while waiting for bail,

Happens to commoners all the time.

He's a Socialist. When's the last time a Conservative/Republican/Fascist faced something like this? They always walk away - just look at the right-wing Wap president in Italy. Sex with a minor - still walking around isn't he (minus a few teeth).

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

He's a Socialist. When's the last time a Conservative/Republican/Fascist faced something like this?

And his other accuser is the daughter of a prominent french socialist, maybe the "socialist liboturds" of the world are a tad confused as usual?

Originally Posted by The Bold Rodney

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

It's still too early to tell if it's a set up, but on the weight of probability I'd say it likely is.

I agree it's too early to form an oppinion if it's a set up and the maid had supposedly been a satisfactory employee for three years?

It's been suggested she works part time and is an aspiring actress?

She's black and lives in a low class apartment in an area used by druggies?

The only question I'd ask is...

Would you use someone like her to trap SDK or would you use an educated attrcative professional operative who could match him on his own terms both socially and mentaly? I know which person I'd bet on to trap him and it wouldn't be a hotel chamber maid!

It's too obvious to pull another Assange by setting up DSK with a professional woman-operative playing the role at his own level. But coercing an "aspiring actress" chamber maid (in a hotel he may go to a lot) who lives in a poor area of town may be exactly the entry point that would work.

If someone offered her 500,000 USD to go through with this, it would be a pretty tempting offer wouldn't it?

She comes onto him - he let's his guard down. Afterall she's just a chambermaid - maybe he's seen her there before - feels there's little risk (but wrong-o) - and walks right into it.

How do you know she wasn't attractive? A young aspiring actress? You mean because she's black? Maybe he likes black women - again his opponents would have carefully chosen the right person for the job. Think about how much is at stake for the french right-wing if they can hang on to the Elyse Palace - and think who else benefits (e.g. US, Israel possibly present UK govt).

Hope he liked the cheese sandwiches in Central Booking

Originally Posted by Dick

Hope he liked the cheese sandwiches in Central Booking

Speaking from experience are you? Was that before or after the visit to the fudge packing unit?

Originally Posted by BobR

Originally Posted by thegent

Jesus, he still doesn't get it. This Bobr is one real turkey.

There was no rush to scapegoat someone, there was no intent to ruin reputations - it was a straightforward police investigation, efficiently conducted in difficult circumstances where the suspected felon had to be arrested quickly before he fled the jurisdiction for the sanctuary of his own country from where there could be no extradition.
Excellent work by the NYPD and now the trial......

International extradition is a function of the Federal Government, it is not a function or concern of any city police department, and certainly not an excuse for them to do a rush investigation. It's neither the NYPD"s problem or job to get him back from France if he had flown there, it's a Federal function. Maybe your extensive legal experience from watching CSI Fantasyland never included that. People like yourself who insist on childish name calling and cannot discuss an issue without slinging accusations and insults really take the fun out these forums. I'm sure judging from your earlier behavior and comments you will have to have the last word, knock yourself out, I'm out of this subject.

Which bit of "the French do not extradite their citizens" do you not understand?

Originally Posted by thegent

He was arrested on an aircraft bound for France after having fled the scene of the crime

In any event as I understand it he will have his own cell, take his meals there and will not have to associate with others unless he wishes to. Hardly an imposition for one so manifestly guilty.

Good thing you're not a judge.

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

Originally Posted by Carrabow

When you are on top it is best to keep your nose clean and set the example, and never never leave oneself open to things of this nature.

It's still too early to tell if it's a set up, but on the weight of probability I'd say it likely is. The way it's being handled by the US authorities suggest the US is pushing it further into that likely direction IMO (and likely involved).

A french commentator interviewed on BBC World points out that even if he was set up and eventually clears his name/honour it will be too late to be considered a contender for the Socialist candidate in the French election.

I thnk the only way he could come out of this and still run against Sarko is if he could prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that it was a set up by domestic/foreign intelligence agencies and/or his opponents. But since these people are pros and would have thought this through, that would seem highly unlikely. DSK may eventually clear his name in court through a lack of evidence. But as the commentator said - it will all be too late.

The objective would have been accomplished. The Socialists will probably not be able to come up with a replacement to knock off Sarko next year - despite his low popularity, thus a right-winger remains in office in a pivitol European capital. And once again the corporate-right wing political-economy tradition triumphs through any/all means necessary to keep their boot on the throat of the rest of us.

This really smacks of the Clinton set-up with Lewinski. Buit again, if you're stupid enough to walk into something like this without realizing it could be a set up, then maybe you're not the man for the top job. Having said that I thought Clinton was one of the better presidents the US has had in my lifetime.

Makes sense to me. I read some of garbage in the news and the judge seems to believe there is a reason to detain him.

I am glad it is Rikers... Time to punch and kick his way out

Will serve small sentence,be dismissed of his functions, get a golden chute of few millions, next...

Originally Posted by forreachingme

Will serve small sentence,be dismissed of his functions, get a golden chute of few millions, next...

In the mean time he is sweating bullets

My dear Tom, the fact he is manifestly guilty of trying to impose his goatish ways upon another is actually neither here nor there. Justice is another matter entirely and will no doubt be decided in the inevitable ensuing circus.

There is plenty of time yet for the old goat to induce the victim of his lust to alter her testimony - he is, after all, quite wealthy and she is obviously poor, black, West African, an immigrant and an " actress" and therefore quite clearly prone to melodrama and flights of fancy........

^
agree fully.