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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog View Post
    The lunatic thesis is that America really did dispose of the body of their decade-long Public Enemy 1 by throwing it into the sea. Its defies rational belief.
    They'll believe it even if they never show clear images of him, the attack, the shark's bait.

    After all, a fully laden 757 jetliner performed aerial acrobatics over the middle of Washicngton DC in the middle of a work day morning, swooped down at 350 MPH just a few feet above the manicured lawn of the Pentagon and into the side of the building - and didn't leave any trace of its engines, eight-story high tailfin, wings (combined length of a football field.. Nope all just vanished into vapor inside the building.

    Oh yes - and there's no video of that either at perhaps the most security conscious building in the US of A.

    I mean people believe that story. So why wouldn't they believe an aging raghead was shot in the middle of the night in some small town in Pakistan with no witnesses and his body chucked into the sea?

    Yes it's fuckin looney tunes for sure. But everyone's bought it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer
    After all, a fully laden 757 jetliner performed aerial acrobatics over the middle of Washicngton DC in the middle of a work day morning, swooped down at 350 MPH just a few feet above the manicured lawn of the Pentagon and into the side of the building - and didn't leave any trace of its engines, eight-story high tailfin, wings (combined length of a football field.. Nope all just vanished into vapor inside the building.

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    ^
    Which part was inaccurate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    moog,

    did you see the link i posted on the previous page?

    apparently video does exist and will be released.....although perhaps not as quickly as some here would like.

    some nutter on here posted that this was a ruse which would allow the US govt to create a fake video.
    Yes, I see. And you know. I'm happy to wait and watch it, whilst remaining incredulous that what they proffered so far was a shot of Obama, Clinton and others apparently watching .....somethng or other...on the other side of the room......after which they ask us to believe that Obama gave the nod (and it would have been his call) to submerge the best piece of forensic evidence ever to fall into his lap.

    It beggars belief, and it risks prejudicing everything else said if that episode actually unfolded differently.

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    Maybe his body accidently fell out of the helicopter and into the sea. I hear the US nasties were pretty good at that trick. Even taught the Thais how to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
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    i don't think so....i never bought any of that 9/11 'truther' stuff.
    you should watch that documentary "Inside Job" narrated by Matt Damon,

    it's about the financial crisis and how Obama sold out, he didn't do the necessary reforms at the end, complete wasted opportunity. The dream team from the Bush years are all back on board. Outrageous.
    I can't see how Obama can do anything. The rest of the elected government are all on the take and would stop him anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog
    somethng or other...on the other side of the room
    From Clintons face it may have been the "cigar" video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
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    It is perfectly rational if you think about it a little
    yes please explain how it's rationale,

    it's only rationale if you are a sheep and follow the crowd to the slaughter house,
    Can't you put a sentance together without the word sheep in it? One would think you have some sort of love for the animal, but maybe you do.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
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    What size is your tin hat Butters? It must be a BIG one
    how big a sucker are you ? you must be quite the attraction here in Thailand
    Do you even venture out into the world, or do you hide because everyone is out to get you? Paranoid comes to mind and you really need to up your medication.

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    Both [the Islamists and Neoconservatives] were idealists who were born out of the failure of the liberal dream to build a better world. And both had a very similar explanation for what caused that failure. These two groups have changed the world, but not in the way that either intended. Together, they created today a nightmare vision of a secret, organized evil that threatens the world. A fantasy that politicians then found restored their power and authority in a disillusioned age. And those with the darkest fears became the most powerful.

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    U.S. has adopted Israel's targeted killing strategy: former Israeli defense minister

    "JERUSALEM, May 3 (Xinhua) -- Israel's former defense minister and army chief of staff Shaul Mofaz told local media Tuesday that the United States, in killing Osama bin Laden after a decade-long search rather than trying him in a court of law, had essentially legitimized a past Israeli policy of "targeted assassinations" of the leaders of militant groups.

    Mofaz, who heads the influential Knesset (Israel's parliament) Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee told Israel Radio in an interview that the U.S. decision justified the former policy that Israel implemented in its war against Palestinian militants, which included killing Hamas and other top-echelon Palestinian officials.

    While many in the international community slammed the policy, calling it "extrajudicial killings," Israel strongly maintained that going after the heads of militant organizations involved in planning and carrying out attacks against civilians and soldiers was justified, and caused the least amount of harm to non- combatants.

    Israel, Mofaz said, began implementing the policy in the wake of the murder of nine Israeli athletes at the 1972 Munich Olympics as a method of curtailing terror attacks locally and against Israeli citizens and interests abroad.

    "This was a kill operation," a U.S. official said of the nighttime Navy SEAL raid on the compound, where bin Laden had reportedly lived for the last three years.

    The remark ruled out previous speculation that the American government had planned to capture and try bin Laden for the Sept. 11 attacks which killed close to 4,000 citizens. "
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh
    It's no laughing matter if you are on the wrong end of it.
    what it means now is that our government leaders should be fair game for targets, and go to war over it, like we used to 300 years ago

    oh wait !!!

    "he tried to kill my father, that's why we should invade"


    Sometimes you are too caustic even for me, but this time you are right. Also what's wrong with my fellow Americans?

    When the American Government simply executes anyone accused of a crime 2 feet in front of his bed, without a trial or a lawyer or a chance to make a statement in a public forum,, is that really something for any intelligent American to be happy about? Even in war, the enemy was supposed to be given a chance to surrender.

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    ^^
    That was before the war on terror. All rules are out the window like ieds, using civilians as shields, flying planes into highrise buildings; do I need to go on? Conventional warfare and rules have not been relevant for a long time. Why should a country always do the "right" thing when everyone else is not?

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    I have not been following this thread but it was mentioned to me that they could of had him on many previous occasions but it wasn't the right time.

    Can someone explain to me why now was the right time to waste him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    I have not been following this thread but it was mentioned to me that they could of had him on many previous occasions but it wasn't the right time.

    Can someone explain to me why now was the right time to waste him?
    I don't believe for a moment they
    They could have had him on many previous occasions.
    I think if they could have, they would have.
    You been listening to butters again LT?

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    When the American Government simply executes anyone accused of a crime 2 feet in front of his bed, without a trial or a lawyer or a chance to make a statement in a public forum,, is that really something for any intelligent American to be happy about? Even in war, the enemy was supposed to be given a chance to surrender.
    Quite. I'm just listening to the World Service which is reporting that he wasn't armed when he was shot but somehow he was still 'resisting'. There doesn't seem to be much way of avoiding the conclusion that he was assassinated, and though the Tom Clancy-reading types will no doubt find this all highly exciting, it's a sorry fucking day.

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    I'm not pro american but what else could they do if they arrested him and took him back to the states that would just give his followers another reason to carry on and demand his release he's better of at the bottom of the ocean imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh
    From Clintons face it may have been the "cigar" video.
    from her look, it could have been anything, maybe a naked picture of her husband in a room with a college student

    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    you really need to up your medication.
    yes keep drinking the Kool Aid, you Americans are so cutely naive and keep asking for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobo746
    he's better of at the bottom of the ocean
    he is not even there, I am with Moog, he is either in Area 51 with the rest of the Aliens body or in a freezer at the White House

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer
    After all, a fully laden 757 jetliner performed aerial acrobatics over the middle of Washicngton DC in the middle of a work day morning, swooped down at 350 MPH just a few feet above the manicured lawn of the Pentagon and into the side of the building
    completely impossible, and the only thing that could do that is a missile

    gotta love it how Rumsfield kept making those mistakes in public press conf

    "when the missile hit the Pentagon, hum, I mean the plane"

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    Butters, you are definately one of a kind. There are just too many questions to be answered to even come close to exactly how this all went down. Osama bin Laden is dead and he was shot by Navy Seals that were ordered to carry out this operation by the President of the United States. The thought that there were plenty of opportunities to kill him before is pure bullshit and nobody can supply concrete proof otherwise. If there were other opportunities, the outcome would have been the same. To theorize anything else is dilusional thinking. I don't think anyone, uncluding British Special Ops would have shaken his hand and helped him onto the helicopter as they transported him off to England. They would have blown his brains out like the Navy Seals to make sure there was no chance of escape or rescue. Any military personnel would do the same if they had the chance and that is exactly what happened. To read more into the story, as many posters are doing, is a waste of effort.
    To bury the body at sea is a great choice. Why would you risk his escape or worse yet, take him to trial in today's world? This way there is no way of knowing where he is and recovering the body, or starting a war for ownership of his pathetic carcass. The consipiracy freaks will not accept anything someone else states as truth and must always look for another angle to the story. I am not saying it all happened exactly as reported since the media likes to embelish and twist stories to gain listeners. However, as time goes by, I think it will be very evident that this scumbag is dead and was given a reasonalbe burial according to the muslim faith. Much more than what he gave to the thousands that were killed by his plans or actions. Quit trying to make this something it is not and sit back to see what is reported and then try to eliminate the fluff.

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    ^ typical American Patriot nutter, love it

    what's your evidence again he was killed as described by the White House ? oh wait, none

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bobo746
    he's better of at the bottom of the ocean
    he is not even there, I am with Moog, he is either in Area 51 with the rest of the Aliens body or in a freezer at the White House

    .....next you be telling us....they will be having him for dinner....
    a bit tribal....butters....

    people and places....what do we know...
    i am just the nowhere man...
    living in the nowhere land...
    forever...

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    What's your evidence he wasn't butthead?

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