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    I did look at your post Auntsy,, and it god damn sure don't say he didn't,,but not being a fucking small island liberal mouthpiece, I look at both sides.

    Cheers what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    Sweep off your own porch and clean up your own yard
    Pakistani father about to kill his daughter for "honour" reasons, would agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    the dad looks like a serious psycho, maybe he was a child molester himself and didn't want his son be the same
    Interesting comment.
    Had the lad been prosecuted under law, a smart lawyer might have put up a defence that the juvenile had been a victim of sexual abuse himself.
    Perhaps father had his own reasons for permanently silencing the boy?
    Will be interesting to see if the mother comes out with any additional information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
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    Shooting the lad was a bit OTT, shoulda called the cops and had him tazered.
    Yea, but then Pandy would have insinuated that the cop was fucking the mother.
    No making the right choice according to some.
    These kinds of stories make the news because they are bizarre, over the top and beyond normal community standards in a civilized society.

    Sad to think there are some people like BG out there who would support the tasering of disobedient little girls and the brutal execution of a lad for confessing to his mother he had committed a sexual crime against his little sister.

    The tag "troll" comes to mind.

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    Dad took out the garbage...

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    I did look at your post Auntsy
    Of course you did. Currently it's really only you that actually believes you have anyone on ignore (and that's only because you 'forget')
    and it god damn sure don't say he didn't,,
    Cheers what.
    Point is, it didn't say he did either. Yet you, in your usual infinite wisdom, appear to have decided that he did.
    but not being a fucking small island liberal mouthpiece, I look at both sides.
    No, you're a big mouth Yank inserting his own 'facts'.

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    Bladdy hell, fukked up all round, that little girl is gonna be messed up for life

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly View Post
    Bladdy hell, fukked up all round, that little girl is gonna be messed up for life
    100 bucks says she throws a tantrum at the age of 10 and gets tazered......

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly
    fukked up all round, that little girl is gonna be messed up for life
    Probably a lot less fucked up than she would have been if she'd had to grow up with a paedo older brother and a psycho dad in the house.

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    Fondles...how appropriate

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    15 means he could've been treated successfully and wouldn't have gone on to do it again. 15 year olds can be worked with, as the brain is reprocessing early childhood as it transitions into adult more fixed cognitive processing.

    Irrefutable fact.

    It is the adults who very rarely change.

    The 3 year old girl will be affected, but it depends on the seriousness of the offense, for which there's little information. However, young children do recover much faster than older children or teens. Lots of research proves this.

    The father is a fucking idiot. Ignorance drove him to make the choices he did. Killing your own son is beyond the pale.

    Blackgang, while I respect your life experiences, I hope you will respect that just because it happened to you or that's how things were done back in the day, doesn't make it right. Understanding has developed markedly.
    "Slavery is the daughter of darkness; an ignorant people is the blind instrument of its own destruction; ambition and intrigue take advantage of the credulity and inexperience of men who have no political, economic or civil knowledge. They mistake pure illusion for reality, license for freedom, treason for patriotism, vengeance for justice."-Simón Bolívar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
    According to Cherry, the 15-year-old had admitted to having "inappropriate contact" with his 3-year-old half sister.
    from that report, it is not clear what happened, but the fathers reaction showed it must have been quite serious

    why the boy admitted it to the mother is also not clear, but she was worried enough to call the father

    Why he executed the kid rather than trying to get help is also not clear

    A lot of the posts above by the usual reactionaries jump to all sorts of conclusions and show a lot of hate, the "hang-em-high" brigade just love to be judge and jury without any real facts

    some of the posts were obscene and disgusting, showing little compassion or humanity
    I have reported your post

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    some of the posts were obscene and disgusting, showing little compassion or humanity
    normal days posting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
    Blackgang, while I respect your life experiences, I hope you will respect that just because it happened to you or that's how things were done back in the day, doesn't make it right. Understanding has developed markedly.
    OK SDog, show me where even 1 pedo has ever been cured of his evil doings, most are in prison because of returning to kiddy fiddling, and thats why they have them register as sex deviates live away from children.
    There is no cure for them and thats the first thing that they find out when they go behind the walls and other cons get to fuck with them, because they know the only way that they will be cured is to kill the pricks or keep them in prison for life.


    Quote Originally Posted by good2bhappy
    normal days posting?
    Yep, thats why it is a forum.

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    It's not like he was some 50 year old serial kiddy diddler, surely a 15 yo would not be beyond help/therapy.

    Sounds like the father was even more fukked up than the son. (well, maybe not now, with the whole bullet in the head thing, that'll fuk you up pretty well)
    bibo ergo sum
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    This time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    from that report, it is not clear what happened, but the fathers reaction showed it must have been quite serious
    The fathers reaction in executing the lad, hitman style, is no indication of the severity of the act the boy was alleged to have carried out. It is a grossly abnormal reaction to execute your own child in cold blood and bears no relevance to the act the boy had allegedly confessed to.

    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    why the boy admitted it to the mother is also not clear, but she was worried enough to call the father
    No, its not clear. But remorse would be a reasonable assumption, particularly if he had been a sexually abused child himself. Research indicates that a large proportion of child sexual abusers were sexually abused themselves as a child.

    "Worried enough to call the father" again is not a good indication of the severity of the situation. She called the father and invited him to "her" place over the issue which would indicate the parents were separated or divorced. We have no idea what the relationship between the father and mother was like. Separated/divorced couples often use incidents involving their children to keep the conflict going and have agendas other than the welfare of the children.

    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    Why he executed the kid rather than trying to get help is also not clear
    No! Its certainly NOT clear. And its not excusable or justifiable under any circumstances to execute your children.
    Either the father was mental or he had another reason for murdering the lad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
    Blackgang, while I respect your life experiences, I hope you will respect that just because it happened to you or that's how things were done back in the day, doesn't make it right. Understanding has developed markedly.
    OK SDog, show me where even 1 pedo has ever been cured of his evil doings, most are in prison because of returning to kiddy fiddling, and thats why they have them register as sex deviates live away from children.
    There is no cure for them and thats the first thing that they find out when they go behind the walls and other cons get to fuck with them, because they know the only way that they will be cured is to kill the pricks or keep them in prison for life.


    Quote Originally Posted by good2bhappy
    normal days posting?
    Yep, thats why it is a forum.
    Easy enough to do yourself, just Google "recidivism rates pedophiles"..but here's some examples....just a few, plus facts and figures, which might be surprising for some...

    Sex Crimes ~ Fears & Facts ~ Recidivism

    "Taken as a group, about 14 percent of convicted sex offenders committed new sex crimes over a five-year period and about 20 percent did so over a 10-year period, according to Canadian researcher Karl Hanson's widely cited review of studies involving more than 4,700 offenders."

    http://www.johnhoward.ab.ca/PUB/PDF/C24.pdf

    Recidivism Rates

    One research project looked at 61 previous studies of sexual recidivism using a 4-5 year follow up period. This research on sex offenders found that 13.4% recidivated with a sexual offence, 12.2% recidivated with a non-sexual, violent offence and 36.6% recidivated with any other offence.

    A long term follow-up study of child molesters in Canada found that 42% were reconvicted of sexual or violent crime during the 15-30 year follow-up period.2
    In addition, the long-term follow-up study (15-30 years)of child molesters showed that the average recidivism rate for this group of offenders is actually lower than the average recidivism rate for non-sexual offenders (61% versus 83.2% respectively for any new
    conviction).

    Likelihood of Recidivism

    The long term follow-up study referred to above included a control group of non-sexual criminals. The highest rate of recidivism (77%) was for those with previous sexual offences, who selected boy victims outside the family and who were never married.

    In general, rapists reoffend more often than child molesters.

    Among child molesters, those with male victims have been found to have the highest recidivism rates, followed by those with unrelated female victims.
    Incest offenders show the lowest recidivism rates of all sexual offenders.

    Psychiatrists, Criminal Justice Experts At Odds Over Handling of Pedophiles — Psychiatric News

    Myths & Facts about Recidivism



    These appear to show that, contrary to popular belief, recidivism amongst paedophiles is actually not that high. I would suggest the above studies need to be treated with caution as actual facts and figures are hard to come by, as the nature of the crime is secretive and that makes reported incidence, that led to conviction, the only reliable source....and successful convictions of paedophiles are very difficult.

    Anyway, I hope this dispels some myths for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
    These appear to show that, contrary to popular belief, recidivism amongst paedophiles is actually not that high. I would suggest the above studies need to be treated with caution as actual facts and figures are hard to come by, as the nature of the crime is secretive and that makes reported incidence, that led to conviction, the only reliable source....and successful convictions of paedophiles are very difficult. Anyway, I hope this dispels some myths for you.
    it doesn't really, as the stats are very unreliable, as your quote says

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    OK SDog, show me where even 1 pedo has ever been cured of his evil doings, most are in prison because of returning to kiddy fiddling, and thats why they have them register as sex deviates live away from children. There is no cure for them and thats the first thing that they find out when they go behind the walls and other cons get to fuck with them, because they know the only way that they will be cured is to kill the pricks or keep them in prison for life.
    Pedos have similarities in that respect to alcoholics

    they may never be cured but they may be able to resist

    you should have some sympathy for that point of view

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
    These appear to show that, contrary to popular belief, recidivism amongst paedophiles is actually not that high. I would suggest the above studies need to be treated with caution as actual facts and figures are hard to come by, as the nature of the crime is secretive and that makes reported incidence, that led to conviction, the only reliable source....and successful convictions of paedophiles are very difficult. Anyway, I hope this dispels some myths for you.
    it doesn't really, as the stats are very unreliable, as your quote says
    Yes, it was I who wrote that, so you've just agreed with me. However, even if these figures were 5 to 10% out, they still seem to indicate that a lot of paedophiles don't go on to re-offend.

    That's the point and answers BG's question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
    That's the point and answers BG's question.
    Not my question, I had no question, I said Show me.
    And that is impossible because you can not do it, the only ones that they know about were those that were caught again, no one would actually cop to doing it and every one of them would have denied doing it.
    So only ones that are sure are caught again.

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    Following your own logic it is impossible for you to argue the opposite.

    How do you know they all go on to re-offend? Prove your assertion.

    You can't.

    I've at least provided statistics based on reality.

    Your opinion is just cloud cuckoo land. Something you formulated without a shred of evidence to prove its credibility.

    Such thinking is dangerous. Ignorance usually is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
    I've at least provided statistics based on reality.
    nope, BG has a point which is the same as I made

    your stats are based on re-offenders only

    as you yourself said, lots of offenders are never caught and of those that are, many are not convicted

    so the stats could be out by 50-80%

    however, Bg was wrong to say this, as Pedos can choose not to actually act on their desires

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackgang
    OK SDog, show me where even 1 pedo has ever been cured of his evil doings, most are in prison because of returning to kiddy fiddling, and thats why they have them register as sex deviates live away from children. There is no cure for them and thats the first thing that they find out when they go behind the walls and other cons get to fuck with them, because they know the only way that they will be cured is to kill the pricks or keep them in prison for life.
    that is why I posted this

    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    Pedos have similarities in that respect to alcoholics they may never be cured but they may be able to resist

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    Do you really believe the stats would be out by that much....?

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