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    Quote Originally Posted by thehighlander959 View Post
    Yep you could be right there, but still no history.
    Meh, history-smistory. Us enlightened Antipodeans look to the future, not the past.

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    What defeat? Have you seen Braveheart!! nah didn,t think so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    That, and they just hate everybody. Never a nice word for anyone. Ever.
    Sour, angry, disappointed people.
    Perhaps but they have better Freemason Lodges north of the Border and they ain't as snooty either...

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    Who enlightened you, pardon do you not speak English, it seems our history and langauge has been imbibed upon you in New Zealand, seems to me you have your fair share of Scottish immigrants.

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    ^^
    Thank You brother!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehighlander959 View Post
    seems to me you have your fair share of Scottish immigrants.
    Well I didn't say it was perfect did I.

    Besides, some English immigrants as well so they needed the Scots to perform their menial tasks for them. Not the ones in Dunedin though, dumb buggers forgot they were in a different hemisphere and built the houses on the wrong orientation!

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    I am not sure that you are of English descent Mr Robertson, seems that their might have been a little bit of Scots put in their sometime check your family tree it won,t go back that far I am sure..

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    English / Scots, whatever but our ant is a lively ginger-haired fella and balding so it's probably a bit of both...

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    Quite correct Begbie
    The borders are inside heads
    As an Irishman I found Scotland fro Orkneys to Glasgow a home from home and genrealy more welcoming to strangers
    If I had free heating and could live 'the lifestyle on 1000baht a day I'd choose Arisiag or Morar Tain and Fearn are also great

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
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    even if some of his ancestors were cannibals.
    At least they weren't conquered, defeated and subjugated by the English like your lot.

    Hmmm, there seems to be an inordinate pride amongst some of our members concerning the misbehavior of our English ancestors. How many of these "great men" of the past would be considered civilized today? Face facts, most nations have committed crimes against countries they endeavoured to conquer. We English should be cognizant of just what it is about our history that makes us feel pride. Imperialist ventures are foisted upon the weak and powerless with one aim: power. We can be proud of a democratic tradition and of birthing many of the components of society now considered "civlized", but let's not indulge in flights of fancy about the glories of subjugation. There is no pride in killing and theft for the sake of enriching some lord or monarch. Rather be proud of Shakespeare, Fletcher and Beaumont, fine English architecture and great institutions of learning such as Oxford.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehighlander959 View Post
    New Zealand and Australia are not old enough to be conquered, a bit like the Americans, pretty sad when your home country has no history!!


    Yes you are totally correct, Australia indeed has no history is void of culture and is indeed sad in this department.

    What we do have is fantastic beaches, great weather, beautiful rain Forrest in north Queensland and cracking looking women with lovely tans, unlike England that has none of the above and is drowning in immigrants.

    Poor sad throttlers they are, absolute shit hole but its all theres, no other bastard wants it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    I don't think that those 2 pix are of the same broad, teeth are different, one has a space in between and other don't. she not as pretty as the other one, pobly why they punched the dog in the eye.
    You're an asshole bg.

    The whole issue is that some stupid idiot punched a girl for a stupid reason, and he should be brought to justice..hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehighlander959 View Post
    New Zealand and Australia are not old enough to be conquered, a bit like the Americans, pretty sad when your home country has no history!!
    I presume you only consider OZ & NZ to have a 'European' history?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehighlander959 View Post
    I am not sure that you are of English descent Mr Robertson, seems that their might have been a little bit of Scots put in their sometime check your family tree it won,t go back that far I am sure..
    You're half right, neither English nor Scottish descent me.

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    Look Ant's parents obviously changed there name by deedpoll.
    They saw this jar of Marmelade with a cute pic on the back and thought it was a great name!

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    Quote Originally Posted by good2bhappy View Post
    Look Ant's parents obviously changed there name by deedpoll.
    They saw this jar of Marmelade with a cute pic on the back and thought it was a great name!




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    RS oyu show me the history written by the Maori,s in New Zealand or the aborigines in Australia, show me where it is documented and the we will take that into account.I have not seen that much evidence so far, but please prove me wrong?
    History is normally written by the winners...
    "Don,t f*ck with the baldies*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jools View Post
    Hmmm, there seems to be an inordinate pride amongst some of our members concerning the misbehavior of our English ancestors. How many of these "great men" of the past would be considered civilized today? Face facts, most nations have committed crimes against countries they endeavoured to conquer. We English should be cognizant of just what it is about our history that makes us feel pride. Imperialist ventures are foisted upon the weak and powerless with one aim: power. We can be proud of a democratic tradition and of birthing many of the components of society now considered "civlized", but let's not indulge in flights of fancy about the glories of subjugation. There is no pride in killing and theft for the sake of enriching some lord or monarch. Rather be proud of Shakespeare, Fletcher and Beaumont, fine English architecture and great institutions of learning such as Oxford.
    Not a nationalistic bone in any Brit's body.
    Just ask them -- or read this thread.

    They continually claim to be quite proud of hating their country.

    National pride is reserved for the Thais and Americans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat
    Not a nationalistic bone in any Brit's body. Just ask them -- or read this thread. They continually claim to be quite proud of hating their country. National pride is reserved for the Thais and Americans.
    I think most Brits have pride in their ancestors for giving so much to the world, but more and more Brits are realising that the place is a basket case now. I don't know why they don't just call it New America.

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    Of course NZ has history and a proud one.

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    The Treaty of Waitangi was signed in 1840 at the request of Maori chiefs and Europeans who feared for the continued existence of the tribes, sub-tribes, extended and immediate families (iwi, hapu and whanau) in the face of the Maori cannibal raiding parties, (and also from the growing interest of the French), to provide just cause for the British Crown to take control of a serious problem facing everyone in NZ. Maori warriors had been rampaging through the country armed with muskets and were destroying communities and forcing tribes to resettle in other areas of the country. This was displacement of Maori by Maori, not at this stage of Maori by the British - this did happen in time but there were huge differences. Land confiscation is totally different to stealing land from people you conquer and eat!

    The Maori warriors not only displaced other tribal communities, they enslaved them. This enslavement was even more grotesque than whatever the American Negro slaves had to endure. Do you ever recall reading where American cotton growers forced their negro slaves to do a full days work, and then sat down to consume their slaves as the main menu item for the evening meal. and make the others slaves watch as they worked their way through them. This is exactly what the Maori did to slaves and prisoners. The Maori warriors went on to murder and consume thousands of their own folk, sometimes even kinfolk! and often any Europeans caught up in their way as well. You can be assured this is no exaggeration. Often the victims were not dead before being carved up and consumed. Imagine rolling around on the ground in agony with one buttock, or maybe the muscles of your arm sliced off, and seeing someone eating it in front of you. That's right they didn't necessarily bother to wait and cook it. Don't think they used a nice sharp knife either. A piece of half blunt sea shell was quite adequate, or a flake of obsidian if you were more fortunate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    I don't know why they don't just call it New America.
    Or Great Chavistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Begbie
    The Maori warriors went on to murder and consume thousands of their own folk, sometimes even kinfolk! and often any Europeans caught up in their way as well. You can be assured this is no exaggeration.
    I think I'd change my name, too, with ancestors like this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57
    What we do have is fantastic beaches, great weather, beautiful rain Forrest in north Queensland and cracking looking women with lovely tans, unlike England that has none of the above and is drowning in immigrants.
    The UK has some fantastic coastline, some of the beaches are stunning, especialy in winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spiff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Begbie
    The Maori warriors went on to murder and consume thousands of their own folk, sometimes even kinfolk! and often any Europeans caught up in their way as well. You can be assured this is no exaggeration.
    I think I'd change my name, too, with ancestors like this!
    Why do you think it's refered to as 'Land of the Great White Cloud'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by good2bhappy
    They saw this jar of Marmelade with a cute pic on the back and thought it was a great name!
    Marmalade, another great Scottish invention.

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