Thread: Airline News

I'm not a techno that follows what planes i fly in but i am BKK inbound next month from Dubai on Emirates, just hope the inflight movie channel works as well as usual.
Best airline i ever flew and i flew on most.

Emirates without a doubt.
More room as well and at 6'2" i need it.
The only drawback, they don't fly direct......

Originally Posted by socal

The Dreamliner gets 20%better fuel milage.

Up to 7% less and carries less passengers.

I fly from Birm. but i like the break in the middle to stretch out but you can always request to sit at the front of the section and althouth you cant get a good look at the inflight screens your legs have more space.
^

Prestwick airport,airline scare with fire note.

^ What a fooking nightmare for everyone on board. Those long flights are miserable enough without a delay that will likely drag out over a day. Hope they catch the nut who did this.

Originally Posted by Troy

Originally Posted by socal

The Dreaminer is a very unique airplane. It is carbon fiber. The carbon fibre allows for better cabin pressures which reduce jet lag. It allows to cieling and the layout to be more open too.

errr...Socal....the A-350 is made with 53% carbon fibre, a gnats cock more than the 787....

Originally Posted by socal

The Dreamliner gets 20%better fuel milage.

Twenty percent better than what? Not even Boeing would dare say it had 20% better fuel efficiency than the A-350. Certainly that would be untrue if referring to total drag alone...so is this based on engine, and if so which engine fit?
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Let's see what happens at the Paris Air show next week...regards orders...

Ironically the reason there is such a demand for medium-large long distance planes is that so many airlines are anxious to dump their 4 engine fuel thirsty Airbus A340's. Thai has 4 A340-500's (which was the worst variant) grounded because they cannot make money flying them.

Originally Posted by BobR

^ What a fooking nightmare for everyone on board. Those long flights are miserable enough without a delay that will likely drag out over a day. Hope they catch the nut who did this.

Plus the fact that they couldn't get a good stiff drink after all that!! Dry airline

Originally Posted by Troy

Originally Posted by socal

The Dreaminer is a very unique airplane. It is carbon fiber. The carbon fibre allows for better cabin pressures which reduce jet lag. It allows to cieling and the layout to be more open too.

errr...Socal....the A-350 is made with 53% carbon fibre, a gnats cock more than the 787....

Originally Posted by socal

The Dreamliner gets 20%better fuel milage.

Twenty percent better than what? Not even Boeing would dare say it had 20% better fuel efficiency than the A-350. Certainly that would be untrue if referring to total drag alone...so is this based on engine, and if so which engine fit?
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Edit:

Let's see what happens at the Paris Air show next week...regards orders...

Yeah yeah. No need to get all nationalistic about your frog euro trash brand. The DL has more technology and carbon Fibre.

If you want to get nationalistic, we can see how Canadas Bombardier does at the Paris airshow regarding smaller planes

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by socal

The Dreamliner gets 20%better fuel milage.

Up to 7% less and carries less passengers.

Nope. Prove it with a spec sheet

Originally Posted by socal

Originally Posted by Troy

Originally Posted by socal

The Dreaminer is a very unique airplane. It is carbon fiber. The carbon fibre allows for better cabin pressures which reduce jet lag. It allows to cieling and the layout to be more open too.

errr...Socal....the A-350 is made with 53% carbon fibre, a gnats cock more than the 787....

Originally Posted by socal

The Dreamliner gets 20%better fuel milage.

Twenty percent better than what? Not even Boeing would dare say it had 20% better fuel efficiency than the A-350. Certainly that would be untrue if referring to total drag alone...so is this based on engine, and if so which engine fit?
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Edit:

Let's see what happens at the Paris Air show next week...regards orders...

Yeah yeah. No need to get all nationalistic about your frog euro trash brand. The DL has more technology and carbon Fibre.

If you want to get nationalistic, we can see how Canadas Bombardier does at the Paris airshow regarding smaller planes

No one even mentioned Nationality SoCal.... Except you!

Originally Posted by BobR

Ironically the reason there is such a demand for medium-large long distance planes is that so many airlines are anxious to dump their 4 engine fuel thirsty Airbus A340's. Thai has 4 A340-500's (which was the worst variant) grounded because they cannot make money flying them.

The A-340-500 was a long-haul variant and was superseded pretty quickly. I think SIA still use it on runs to LA. Thai decided it was more efficient to use a B-777-300ER, the plane that basically killed off the -500 variant.

The A-350 will be produced in several variants that are intended to compete with the B-777 and the B-747 as well as the Dreamliner.

For me. there are some really classic Boeing aircraft, such as the 737, 747 and 777. However, I like to see competition in the market and Airbus has been a breath of fresh air in this regard.

Some specs for Socal to ponder over....
Airbus A350 versus Boeing 787: differences and many similarities | SmartPlanet

That may have too much writing ...how about this for simplicity:
Aircraft comparison: Boeing 787-8 vs. Airbus A350-800 | aviatorjoe.net

Note that is the smaller A350-800 variant.

The Trent engine used on the A-350 is an improvement on the Trent-1000 used on the Dreamliner so I am not sure how Socal manages to make the Dreamliner more efficient against any of the A-350 variants. Nor do I see how the Dreamliner is more economical/passenger.

Originally Posted by Troy

Originally Posted by BobR

Ironically the reason there is such a demand for medium-large long distance planes is that so many airlines are anxious to dump their 4 engine fuel thirsty Airbus A340's. Thai has 4 A340-500's (which was the worst variant) grounded because they cannot make money flying them.

The A-340-500 was a long-haul variant and was superseded pretty quickly. I think SIA still use it on runs to LA. Thai decided it was more efficient to use a B-777-300ER, the plane that basically killed off the -500 variant.

The A-350 will be produced in several variants that are intended to compete with the B-777 and the B-747 as well as the Dreamliner.

For me. there are some really classic Boeing aircraft, such as the 737, 747 and 777. However, I like to see competition in the market and Airbus has been a breath of fresh air in this regard.

Some specs for Socal to ponder over....
Airbus A350 versus Boeing 787: differences and many similarities | SmartPlanet

That may have too much writing ...how about this for simplicity:
Aircraft comparison: Boeing 787-8 vs. Airbus A350-800 | aviatorjoe.net

Note that is the smaller A350-800 variant.

The Trent engine used on the A-350 is an improvement on the Trent-1000 used on the Dreamliner so I am not sure how Socal manages to make the Dreamliner more efficient against any of the A-350 variants. Nor do I see how the Dreamliner is more economical/passenger.

Looks good.

I just remember reading a couple years ago that Airbus was focusing on the a380 and wasn't going to get into building a Dreamliner clone.

But it looks like they did in fact make a clone. I like the Dreamliner so having a Euro version of it is good for me the consumer. I might add that the Dreamliner is a lot cheaper to purchase.

It also says in the article that Airbus will likely take a couple years over schedule to get it in commercial service just like boeing did

I wonder if they are skimping on maintenance as well.

Originally Posted by S Landreth

Budget airlines are constantly on the lookout for ways to cut their fuel bills and India’s GoAir is no different.

Its latest idea is to hire female-only cabin crew, refusing applications from their heavier male counterparts in a bid to limit fuel burn.

The low-cost airline has calculated that the move will save up to 30m rupees (£330,000) a year, because women 20kg lighter on average.

Around 130, or 40%, of GoAir’s existing crew members are male, and they will keep their jobs. But men will miss out in the future, as the airline presses ahead with ambitious expansion plans for 80 new aircraft by 2020 and around 2,000 cabin crew and pilots. It currently has a fleet of 15 aircraft.

The chief executive, Giorgio De Roni, said the decision was driven by the rupee’s sharp fall against the dollar over the past year.

“The rupee’s fall has hurt the industry badly. All major expenses – aircraft leasing, spare parts and fuel costs – are linked to the dollar,” he told the Times of India.

“We are looking at every possible way of cost-cutting to remain profitable.”

As operating costs rise, GoAir has taken other measures to reduce the weight on board its aircraft and limit fuel burn. Its in-flight magazines have been shrunk, and water tanks are not being filled to capacity.

Aircraft are also using a single engine to taxi in order to save fuel.

India budget airline switches to female-only cabin crew to save on fuel

Trimming male crew: GoAir’s cost-cutting strategy may not be practical - Firstpost

Not an airline for a forward booking then!!.... Who the fock wants to travel on an Indian run airline anyway?

Originally Posted by S Landreth

Budget airlines are constantly on the lookout for ways to cut their fuel bills and India’s GoAir is no different.

Its latest idea is to hire female-only cabin crew, refusing applications from their heavier male counterparts in a bid to limit fuel burn.

The low-cost airline has calculated that the move will save up to 30m rupees (£330,000) a year, because women 20kg lighter on average.

Around 130, or 40%, of GoAir’s existing crew members are male, and they will keep their jobs. But men will miss out in the future, as the airline presses ahead with ambitious expansion plans for 80 new aircraft by 2020 and around 2,000 cabin crew and pilots. It currently has a fleet of 15 aircraft.

The chief executive, Giorgio De Roni, said the decision was driven by the rupee’s sharp fall against the dollar over the past year.

“The rupee’s fall has hurt the industry badly. All major expenses – aircraft leasing, spare parts and fuel costs – are linked to the dollar,” he told the Times of India.

“We are looking at every possible way of cost-cutting to remain profitable.”

As operating costs rise, GoAir has taken other measures to reduce the weight on board its aircraft and limit fuel burn. Its in-flight magazines have been shrunk, and water tanks are not being filled to capacity.

Aircraft are also using a single engine to taxi in order to save fuel.

India budget airline switches to female-only cabin crew to save on fuel

http://www.firstpost.com/business/tr...al-913663.html

That's an excellent idea, and they'll only be hiring slim ones with trim legs.
And I hear pubic hair is quite heavy so it'll be the weedwhacker all round.
I also hear boobs weigh next to nothing.

Airheads...that will save a bit more weight....

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I wonder if they are skimping on maintenance as well.

If they are this cheap, it would not be surprising if they skimp on maintenance and hire the lowest paid mechanics they can attract. One can be certain they do nothing more than the absolute minimums.

290 people on board all accounted for including 12 crew.

Originally Posted by S Landreth

A Boeing 777 operated by Asiana Airlines crashed while landing at San Francisco International Airport on Saturday

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This appears to be the only video of the actual crash of Asiana flight 214, that happened yesterday at San Franicsco’s airport, at least that I can (Americablog) find.

With 291 passengers, only 2 people died, which is pretty remarkable. In the video below, the airplane appears to cartwheel – that was confirmed by CNN. Apparently the tail come off as the plan hit the ground and that’s when it cartwheeled.

Amateur video of yesterday's plane crash in San Francisco

Originally Posted by S Landreth

A Boeing 777 operated by Asiana Airlines crashed while landing at San Francisco International Airport on Saturday, according to Federal Aviation Administration spokesperson Lynn Lunsford.

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SAN FRANCISCO - Fred Hayes had his camcorder rolling Saturday morning as Asiana Airlines Flight 214 crashed at San Francisco International Airport.

Hayes shot video from a terminal about a mile away from the crash site.