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    One of the best aircraft I have ever flown on, the Emirates A340-500. I have never flown on the Thai version.
    A real long distance cruiser, we had a change of aircraft one day going from Dubai to Tunis and then onto Tripoli. The Business Class service on this aircraft was as good as the First Class service on the Boeing 777-300.
    We also chopped twenty five minutes off the flying time from Dubai to Carthage.
    I think the Boeing 777-200LR can fly further now, but with ETOPS it needs a close alternative airport within 90 minutes.
    Not necessary for the A340 as it has 4 engines and ETOPS is of no concern whatsoever.
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    An Emirates Airlines Airbus A380-800, registration A6-EDQ performing flight EK-384 from Bangkok (Thailand) to Hong Kong (China), landed on Hong Kong's runway 07L at 17:33L (09:33Z) and vacated the runway via high speed turn off A7 stopping just past the hold short line with two blown right hand main tires, the aircraft was disabled. The passengers disembarked onto the taxiway via mobile stairs about one hour after landing.

    The northern runway 07L/25R was closed for about 4 hours until the aircraft was towed off the taxiway. The runway had been estimated to return to service by 23:30Z (07:30L Apr 8th Hong Kong Time), about 14 hours after landing.

    Passengers reported they saw sparks from an engine at the right hand side and noticed a burning smell, the crew quickly announced they had burst tires.

    Sources at Hong Kong Airport report the aircraft suffered an anti-skid failure on landing resulting in brakes blocking and causing two main wheels to be ground down to the axle.

    The airline reported the aircraft blew two tyres on landing.




    An observer on the ground reported maintenance staff were replacing a number of tires.

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    Landed at MAN last month on an Emirates A380-800.
    Nearly ran out of runway. Scaryville!

    MAN are now charging a non-returnable £1 to use their luggage trolleys

    Manchester Airport : Changes to Manchester Airport’s trolley service

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobR View Post
    Thai to drop the Bangkok-Los Angeles route on May 1, will park the A340-500s
    March 25, 2012 — Thai Airways International
    Thai Airways International (Bangkok) due to the rising price of fuel is planning to discontinue the nonstop Bangkok-Los Angeles route on May 1. The four Airbus A340-500s assigned to the route are expected to be parked or sold this year.

    These planes are 7 years old and they are talking about grounding them permanently and/or selling them for scrap. They previously tried to sell them and the only offer Thai received was from a scrapper in the USA.

    Apparently was in the works since January -- More here:
    Thai to axe non-stop Los Angeles service - Business Traveller

    Thai to axe non-stop Los Angeles service

    Published: 30/01/2012

    Thai Airways will cease its special Bangkok to Los Angeles flight at the end of April. It follows on from the ending of the Bangkok-New York service in 2008 and it means that Thai will no longer serve the US non-stop.


    The daily non-stop A340-500 flight to Los Angeles accommodates 215 passengers in a three-class layout: business, premium economy and economy classes. It will be cut to a five times a week service from February 1 and will cease altogether on April 30.



    From May 1 the service (still using the same flight numbers TG794/TG795) will operate four times a week. But it will instead be rostered for a 292-seater B777-200ER (configured for business and economy class) and instead of flying non-stop, will touch down in Seoul’s Incheon airport, as confirmed on the carrier's website here.


    As a result the flight time to the US will be extended from today’s 14 hrs 50 mins to 17 hrs 35 mins. On the way back, today’s time of 17 hrs 35 mins will become 19 hrs 40 mins.


    The A340-500 is the only aircraft in Thai’s fleet which is capable of flying to Los Angeles non-stop. It will be missed because it offered passengers an economical, yet speedy way to reach the US West Coast. And Los Angeles is home to the largest Thai population in the US.


    It is true that SIA still continues with its five times a week non-stop service to Los Angeles from Singapore. But SIA operates its A340-500s in an all-business class layout and so fares are higher.


    The four-engined A340-500 was conceived in the days of cheap fuel. It was specifically designed to operate non-stop routes between SE Asia and the US. But it has become uneconomical to operate on these long routes at today’s oil prices.
    SIA has made the plane work for its Los Angeles and New York routes by reconfiguring the cabin to accommodate a maximum of 100 business class passengers. But Thai has remained with its three class layout and this does not generate the same passenger revenue.


    It is unclear what will happen to Thai’s fleet of four A340-500s. For some time now, the airline has been trying to find a buyer but the offers for these five-year old, but unfashionable (with today’s fuel costs) planes have been derisory.


    Most probably they will continue to operate other Thai routes on an ad hoc basis before being retired from the fleet.


    For more information visit thaiairways.com.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thehighlander959 View Post
    The Business Class service on this aircraft was as good as the First Class service on the Boeing 777-300.
    That has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the aircraft though, does it?

    It's how the airlines kit it out and what they choose to provide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy Bob View Post
    Landed at MAN last month on an Emirates A380-800.
    Nearly ran out of runway. Scaryville!

    MAN are now charging a non-returnable £1 to use their luggage trolleys

    Manchester Airport : Changes to Manchester Airport’s trolley service
    Well the Aussie cnuts charge more than twice that at Sydney.

    Just a nice way of fleecing tourists on the way out and leaving a sour taste in the mouth. Not clever. Even the Thais don't charge for trollies, and you think they'd be right on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer
    he A340-500 is the only aircraft in Thai’s fleet which is capable of flying to Los Angeles non-stop. It will be missed because it offered passengers an economical, yet speedy way to reach the US West Coast. And Los Angeles is home to the largest Thai population in the US.
    Surprisingly it's not, I've flown it on one of Thai's A340-600's, which surprised me too.

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    11:15am, Tue 17 Apr 2012 Sleepy pilot mistakes planet Venus for another aircraft

    - last updated Tue 17 Apr 2012



    Fatigue caused an Air Canada pilot to mistake the planet Venus for an aircraft and then send his airliner diving towards the Atlantic to prevent an imaginary collision with another plane, an official report said.
    Sixteen passengersand crew were hurt in the January 2011 incident on board a Boeing 767 twin engine passenger plane flying from Toronto to Zurich in Switzerland.
    An amateur video claims to show the emergency services waiting outside the Air Canada aircraft Credit: YouTube Canada's Transportation Safety Board said the first officer had just woken up, disoriented, from a long sleep, when he learnt from the pilot that a U.S. cargo plane was flying towards them.
    The report said: "The First Officer (FO) initially mistook the planet Venus for an aircraft but the captain advised again that the target was at the 12 o'clock position (straight ahead) and 1,000 feet (305 meters) below.
    "When the FO saw the oncoming aircraft, the FO interpreted its position as being above and descending towards them. The FO reacted to the perceived imminent collision by pushing forward on the control column."
    The airliner dropped about 400 feet before the captain pulled back on the control column. Fourteen passengers and two crew were hurt, and seven needed hospital treatment. None were wearing seat belts, even though the seat-belt sign was on.
    An amateur video claims to show the damage caused to the ceiling of the aircraft when a passenger hit it during the incident Credit: YouTube The First Officer slept for 75-minutes rather than the 40-minute maximum laid down by airline regulations, meaning he fell into a deep sleep and was disorientated when he woke up, the report said.
    Chief investigator Jon Lee said: "Under the effects of significant sleep inertia (when performance and situational awareness are degraded immediately after waking up), the first officer perceived the oncoming aircraft as being on a collision course and began a descent to avoid it.
    "This occurrence underscores the challenge of managing fatigue on the flight deck."
    An Air Canada spokesman said: "Air Canada has developed a special fatigue report form for use in its safety reporting system. This enhanced system should be in place in summer of 2012."
    An amateur video on YouTube claims to show footage of the aftermath:



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    Maybe this is a naive comment - I'm not a commercial aviation expert - but are flight deck operatives allowed to sleep in their seats? I thought they went to some area to the rear of the flight deck for a rest (and in some of the older aircraft near the back of the plane with a curtained off couple of rows - though haven't seen that in years).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer View Post
    Maybe this is a naive comment - I'm not a commercial aviation expert - but are flight deck operatives allowed to sleep in their seats? I thought they went to some area to the rear of the flight deck for a rest (and in some of the older aircraft near the back of the plane with a curtained off couple of rows - though haven't seen that in years).
    If I'm not mistaken, most wide-body, long-haul jumbo variety have "hidden" rest/snoozing compartments - midship, fore, and aft.

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    On the bigger aircraft they are accessible by way of an elevator, correct.

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    Incident: Firefly AT72 at Koh Samui on Mar 17th 2012, high powered communication exchange in cockpit, spiral dive in initial climb

    By Simon Hradecky, created Wednesday, Apr 18th 2012 14:47Z, last updated Wednesday, Apr 18th 2012 14:47Z
    A Firefly Avion de Regional Transport ATR-72-500, flight FY-3609 from Koh Samui (Thailand) to Kuala Lumpur Subang (Malaysia) with 70 passengers, was taxiing for departure when captain and second officer at the flight deck began to engage in a debate. While the aircraft lined up for departure on runway 17, flaps in takeoff position, shouting from the flight deck was heard in the passenger cabin. The initial takeoff run appeared sluggish, about half way down the runway engines were accelerated, the takeoff acceleration returned to normal and the aircraft rotated safely off the runway, shouting continued throughout the takeoff run. While climbing out of the runway flaps and gear were retracted, shouting still continued, at about 1500 feet AGL the aircraft rolled slightly right followed by pronounced roll to the left to beyond 45 degrees of bank, the aircraft lost about 500 feet of height before the wing rolled sharply level and the aircraft recovered from the dive. While shouting still continued on the flight deck the flight set course to Kuala Lumpur, about 15 minutes after departure the shouting ceased. The aircraft landed safely in Kuala Lumpur about 2 hours after departure.

    An aviation professional on board of the aircraft reported he heard the shouting throughout takeoff and departure for about 15 minutes.

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    That aviation professional on board would have to have really good hearing or the shouting was really loud to be able hear it through the cockpit door during takeoff.


    Further news:
    http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/4...ight-deck.html
    The airline told The Aviation Herald: We deeply regret and apologise for any distress experienced by our passengers and would like to make the following clarifications. After a thorough investigation, it has been concluded that while taxing and during take-off from Koh Samui International Airport, there was a crew resource management failure by Captain in charge which resulted in a "high powered" communication exchange in the cockpit between Captain and the Second Officer. This failure had lead to the events which took place during the flight however at no time did the aircraft stall. The Captain initiated the necessary corrective measures and the flight continued on to its destination without further incident and landed safely and securely in Subang. We would like to put on record that this form of communication is not tolerated by Firefly management. These findings were established during the Technical / Fact Finding Inquiry that was held to investigate this incident, which in turn made the recommendations for the appropriate action to be taken against the pilots and crew to ensure that this do not happen again. The Captain is no longer serving with Firefly. Once again, we would like to express our sincere apologies to all passengers on FY3609.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaihome View Post
    ^^
    That aviation professional on board would have to have really good hearing or the shouting was really loud to be able hear it through the cockpit door during takeoff.


    Further news:
    Firefly ATR argument in flight deck - PPRuNe Forums
    The airline told The Aviation Herald: We deeply regret and apologise for any distress experienced by our passengers and would like to make the following clarifications. After a thorough investigation, it has been concluded that while taxing and during take-off from Koh Samui International Airport, there was a crew resource management failure by Captain in charge which resulted in a "high powered" communication exchange in the cockpit between Captain and the Second Officer. This failure had lead to the events which took place during the flight however at no time did the aircraft stall. The Captain initiated the necessary corrective measures and the flight continued on to its destination without further incident and landed safely and securely in Subang. We would like to put on record that this form of communication is not tolerated by Firefly management. These findings were established during the Technical / Fact Finding Inquiry that was held to investigate this incident, which in turn made the recommendations for the appropriate action to be taken against the pilots and crew to ensure that this do not happen again. The Captain is no longer serving with Firefly. Once again, we would like to express our sincere apologies to all passengers on FY3609.
    They should name and shame the culprit(s) to ensure they don't just walk into another job!

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    Its probably the Expat Captain who has been sacked!!!

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    Published on Friday, April 20, 2012


    Passenger Airliner Crashes in Pakistan; All 127 Aboard Presumed Dead


    - Common Dreams staff
    A Pakistani passenger jet with 127 people on board crashed into wheat fields Friday as it was trying to land in a thunder storm at an airport near the capital Islamabad, reports the Associated Press citing officials. Sobbing relatives of those on the flight flocked to the airport as a government minister expressed little hope of finding survivors.



    Pakistani rescue workers and local residents search the site of a plane crash near Islamabad today that killed at least 118 people. (AFP/Getty) The flight was traveling from the country's largest city of Karachi to the Pakistani capital of Islamabad, officials said.
    * * *
    CNN International reports:
    A commercial airplane carrying at least 121 people crashed Friday in Rawalpindi just before it was to land at an airport in Islamabad, according to Pakistan's Civil Aviation Authority, which cited poor weather as a possible factor.
    The Bhoja Air Boeing 737 was on its first flight from Karachi to Islamabad, authority spokesman Pervaz George told CNN, who said weather conditions in the capital were cloudy. Officials initially reported that 131 people were on board, but George later reduced that number.
    There were no survivors.
    The crash occurred near the Chaklala airbase, which the Pakistani air force uses, and is adjacent to the Benazir Bhutto International Airport in Islamabad.
    Debris was scattered across the crash site as workers sifted through the wreckage in the heavily populated residential area.
    Associated Press reports:
    It was unclear whether any people on the ground were killed, but the crash happened in what appeared to be a relatively unpopulated rural area. A violent rain, wind and thunder storm was lashing the capital at the time of the crash, which occurred about 6:40 p.m. local time.
    "It was really bad weather for a flight," said Navy captain Arshad Mahmood, who lives near the crash site. "The pilot was forced to move down to avoid clouds that were generating the lightening and thunder."
    Several farmers threshing wheat saw the craft burst into flames when it hit the ground.
    "The flames leapt up like they were touching the sky," said Mohammad Zubair.
    The army declared an emergency and cordoned off the crash site
    TV footage showed wreckage of the plane, including parts of what looked like its engine and wing, up against the wall of a small building. Rescue officials were working in the dark, with many using flashlights as they combed the area.
    The last major plane crash in the country — and Pakistan's worst ever — occurred in July 2010 when an Airbus A321 aircraft operated by Airblue crashed in the hills overlooking Islamabad, killing all 152 people on board.

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    ^And people wonder why some fly on a direct, non stopping route.

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    A 29 year old Boeing. You wouldn't use a car that old as your daily ride, would you?

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    Aircraft was B737-236 previously owned by British Airways/Comair (South Africa). The previous to last owners another Pakistani Airline took the aircraft out of service as it was becoming unserviceable.It had completed to many flight cycles (take offs and landings) and engineering maintenance was becoming non cost effective.

    Captain was ex Group Captain in the Pakistan Air Force very experienced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    ^And people wonder why some fly on a direct, non stopping route.
    Non-stop flights will be rare in regards to longer haul, as the commercial airlines make a heafty profit through cargo and mail....accompanying the passengers.

    It's more economically feasible for the carriers to make as many stops as the can throughout their routing network.

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    Plane with 21 people on board crashes in Nepal: Report

    Associated Press | Updated: May 14, 2012 10:09 IST





    Kathmandu: Police says a plane with 21 people on board has crashed in Nepal's mountainous north.



    Police said the plane crashed while trying to land at the Jomsom Airport a popular tourist and trekking destination. It belongs to Agri Air.

    Police and soldiers have rushed to the area. Details were not immediately available.

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    India warns EU over airline carbon tax - CNN.com



    "(Financial Times) -- India has threatened to ban European airlines from its airspace if Brussels sanctions Indian carriers in a dispute over an EU plan to charge carriers for their pollution. "Travelling is always a two-way traffic," Ajit Singh, civil aviation minister, said in an interview. "If they can impose sanctions so can other countries."

    Last week 10 Chinese and Indian airlines refused to provide the EU with carbon emissions data -- the most serious revolt against Brussels' scheme to charge carriers for their pollution. The airlines risk being banned from flying to EU countries if they refuse to comply with its carbon emissions trading scheme.

    Dozens of countries, including the US and Russia, have attacked Brussels for subjecting their airlines to an EU carbon emissions trading scheme from this year -- a move also questioned by industry executives. "Europe wanted to lead the way without listening," Bernard Gustin, chief executive of Brussels Airlines, said on Thursday at the Association of European Airlines annual meeting. Willie Walsh, chief executive of International Airlines Group, the parent company of British Airways, criticised the European Commission's "arrogant approach" and said it was "time to put aside its posturing and show true leadership". "I don't think Europe can risk growth at a time like this," Mr Walsh added, calling it "crazy" to risk a trade war over emissions trading.

    EU officials are pushing for a global deal to defuse tensions over the scheme.
    A spokesman for Connie Hedegaard, the EU climate commissioner, noted that the UN's International Civil Aviation Organisation was working towards a global solution that could come into effect before April next year, when airlines must demonstrate further compliance with the EU scheme. The EU has said it would be willing to amend its scheme if an ICAO-sponsored alternative is finalised.

    Mr Singh said sanctions would be counterproductive for both the EU and India at a time when the eurozone debt crisis and slowing consumer demand were strangling economic growth "[The EU] is a sovereign union, they can make laws for themselves but they cannot make laws for the whole world," he added. "If you allow this, next they will impose a carbon tax on shipping or cement."

    Air India and Jet Airways -- the only two Indian carriers serving Europe -- are already contending with high taxes, soaring fuel prices and a domestic price war. Air India, the national carrier, has been on the verge of bankruptcy for more than a decade despite government injections worth billions of dollars. Mr Singh said the latest bailout package, worth about Rs300bn ($5.4bn), could be the last one if the state-owned airline does not turnaround.

    "Air India is in a big financial problem," Mr Singh said. "We can't keep pouring money -- it's public money." Air India pilots have been on strike for 16 days over pay and training disputes."
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    Anything that stops the influx of Indians to Europe can only be a good thing. Perhaps that was all part of the plan.

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