In fact they are so low budget that I'm sure they were talking about putting coin operated toilets on the planes.
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In fact they are so low budget that I'm sure they were talking about putting coin operated toilets on the planes.
Now Ryanair to charge £1 to use the toilet
Ryanair is taking no-frills flights to new heights - by charging for lavatories. All onboard toilets will become coin-operated, forcing passengers to pay £1 or one euro.
The Irish airline is also cutting the number of loos, meaning there may be only one on planes carrying 189 passengers.
It already charges customers to check in luggage, for online check-in, for onboard snacks and for credit card payments.
Ryanair's Stephen McNamara said: 'By charging for the toilets we are hoping to change passenger behaviour so that they use the bathroom before or after the flight.
'That will enable us to remove two out of three of the toilets and make way for at least six extra seats.'
The airline mooted the idea of toilet charges last year but backtracked after criticism.
It also emerged yesterday that its single bag check-in charge will rise from £15 to £20 during the summer holidays.
Rochelle Turner, head of research for Which? magazine, said: 'Ryanair might claim that they are incentivising people to travel light but we think it is more a case of penalising those families who can only go away on holiday during this time.
'Flying with Ryanair is not as cheap as it first appears and we would advise passengers to factor in these extra costs when choosing who to fly with.'
A survey yesterday revealed passengers are paying massively over the odds for plane snacks.
Prices on low-fare carriers are 374% higher than at supermarkets, according to comparison site travelsupermarket.com.
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There's an even better one I've seen where they planned to install semi upright seat-spineboards! It meant they could squash an extra 5 or 6 rows into the plane! You never actually "sat" down - more like leaned backwards with a seatbelt around you hips and your' bum resting against something like a 2-by-4.
While it's okay to gripe about Ryan Air - don;t forget Air Asia. You can buy their meals - if they have any on board - and often they don't. Oh and you're not allowed to bring your own food/drink on board anyway, whether they have any food/drink to sell you - or not.
Thai Airways is now world s 2nd best airline : National News Bureau of Thailand
Thai Airways is now world s 2nd best airline
BANGKOK, 12 September 2011 (NNT)-Thai Airways International Public Company Limited, Thailand’s own airline, is now ranked the world’s second best airline in the world and in Asia Pacific, according to Business Traveler Asia-Pacific Awards 2011.
Thai Airways International President Piyasawat Amranand said the airline was also awarded in various categories such as the second best for its mileage offers, the third best for best business class services and the third best for its passenger lounge.
According to Mr. Piyasawat, the Business Traveller Asia-Pacific Awards 2011 was held in Hong Kong this year where 55 awards had been presented to tourism and airline operators. The results derived from Business Traveler Magazine subscribers who were asked to vote. The majority of subscribers are business people and tourists who travel often.
Mr. Piyasawat said the awards were the result of the hard work and cooperation that the executives and the airline staff had strived for. As a representative for Thai Airways, Mr. Piayasawat said the airline would continue to satisfy the passengers and maintain its services and quality.
My old apartment building won the Best Serviced Residence in Asia-Pacific award.
^^And the winner was One2Go.
Thanks for the info. If it weren't the PM we were talking about that would help explain. Most Thais taking government business-related flights aren't filmed setting out. PR should trump a minor difference in the cost of a first-class (or is she really scrimping and saving?) fare, so I can't help but wonder if there is some other dynamic involved.Quote:
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Whilst government procurement rules require the purchase of Thai International flights there is an exception when the alternatives are 20-30% cheaper.Quote:
Originally Posted by robuzoMaybe one of our resident Thailand Kremlinologists can explain that one.Quote:
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Thai Airways the second best airline in the world? This guy must be having a laugh. It is eighteen months since the last time I boarded a Thai Airwys flight to Dubai,very disappointing due to the fact that the flight was late TG/EK 6200 if I remember correctly.The big problem I remember was the slow service in Business Class and the favouritism the flight attendants had for their fellow Thai passengers. The Australian lady sat next to me en route to Dubai and onwards to Frankfurt with Emirates pressed the call button four times for some water. I stopped the flight attendant after that and she brought her a small glass of water.just a poor service by a poor airline.
Scraping the barrel now "noodless"?Quote:
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This was news some years ago, is that why the date of the article is removed? :rolleyes:
More to the point is how Ryan Air rip people off for an extra bag, anything overweight and especially sports equipment like golf clubs!
No. I said it was from some time ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bold Rodney
Ooops... I must have missed that quote? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by English Noodles
I wonder if anybody has crapped in the sick bag yet, sod paying a pound :)
It would surprise and disappoint me if European regulators sit back and allow this to happen. In California for example, pay toilets are illegal and to eliminate the obvious problem, employers and most businesses that cater to the public are required to provide them in prescribed numbers as a condition for a business license. There is a limit to how low people should want to allow aviation to sinkQuote:
Originally Posted by English Noodles
Also, the first time someone craps his pants or pees in the aisle because he does not have change, and the plane has to divert of an allegedly "unruly" passenger this will get rethought. Then there's the likelihood of litigation for emotional distress by a passenger who has an "accident" in public because of this policy.
I had read that O'Leary had come out and admitted this was a hoax for the free publicity????
Just watched a documentary about Ryan air. Really shocking. It's called Ryanair Caught Napping.
It can be watched here; Ryanair Caught Napping | Watch Free Documentary OnlineQuote:
Ryanair was founded in 1985 by Irish businessman Tony Ryan. It is Europe’s largest low-cost carrier, operating 270 low-fare routes to 21 European countries.Two Dispatches undercover reporters spent five months secretly filming Ryanair’s training programme and onboard flights as members of the cabin crew.
The reporters reveal what really takes place behind the scenes: inadequate safety and security checks, dirty planes, exhausted cabin crew and pilots complaining about the number of hours they have to fly.
And watch Ryanair staff speaking frankly about their experiences and attitudes towards passengers.
Yip true but they stress it is cheap. That is what it is all about. Pay your money and take your chances.
Now at the other end of the scale, Air Canada on top of all the other surcharges are charging $75 extra for your 1st bag! then more for the second. They also have a policy that passengers bags are left behind as they sell space at a premium for air freight. Airlines are out to make money, It is a business to them.
We flew Ryan Air once,cheap yes i think we paid £36 return for 2 people to Milan.
Only time i thought i was going to die whilst flying,the landing coming back in to England was very bad,even the cabin crew look worried.
And there was me thinking they were doing it out of the goodness of their hearts.Quote:
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On another note, a mate of mine wanted to fly to Capetown recently, in Biz class.
Flying economy BAH-LHR (Gulf Air econ), then LHR-DXB-CPT-DXB-LHR (Emirates Biz all the way) finishing with LHR-BAH (Gulf Air econ) was almost a third cheaper than DXB-CPT-DXB (Emirates Biz).
How fucking mad is that?
Body scanners for Suvarnabhumi airport | Pattaya today newspaper
Body scanners for Suvarnabhumi airport
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The airports authority in Thailand has invested 100 million baht to improve security screen areas at the country’s leading international airport. Eight full body scanners will be introduced for maximum security checks at a new security zone to be brought to the mezzanine floor after airline check-in.
This innovation will necessitate travelers to take an escalator up to walk through the scanners and then take another escalator down to the immigration check-in area.
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The airports authority said the contract bidding process was in hand and that the new technology should be available for customer use by the end of 2011.
One concern is that airline passengers at Suvarnabhumi are increasing by six percent a year and the airport is now close to maximum capacity at 45 million yearly. Short term plans include making better use of existing spaces and the use of some domestic terminals for international flights at night only.
In the longer term, there are plans to build a new terminal at a cost of over nine billion baht which will be able to handle 20 million more passengers. Thus, by 2015, the airport should be able to handle 65 million passengers annually. The Cabinet has yet to agree on plans for a new terminal.
Thai-ASEAN News Network
THAI to Launch Budget Thai Smile Airline in July 2012
UPDATE : 21 September 2011
Thai International Airways has approved the introduction of the Thai Smile Airline, a new low-cost carrier, in July 2012.
President of Thai International Airways or THAI, Piyasawat Amaranand announced that the company has decided to introduce Thai Smile Airline, a new low-cost carrier, in July of next year.
Initially, the airline will offer only domestic routes before expanding, particularly to ASEAN member countries, including China and India.
The hiring process of the new crew has been outsourced to WingSpan Services, an employment company partially owned by THAI.
Starting from October 2011, the company is planning to hire 40 pilots and 100 flight attendants.
The Transport Ministry has supported the establishment of the new airline, citing that THAI needs a new carrier to compete in the low-cost market, which is currently being dominated by Thai Air-Asia.
THAI is planning to expand its capacity to accommodate all customer segments with Thai International Airways as a premium carrier, focusing on intercontinental and main regional routes, while the new Thai Smile Airline will emphasize domestic and secondary regional routes.
At the same time, Nok Air will continue offering ultra-low cost flights to domestic destinations.
Leahy "extra large version of the A380 by the end of this year."
Rough translation:
The Airbus is not big enough. The European aircraft A380 is already the largest aircraft in the world, but according to insiders, there are plans to build an even longer version, the so-called Airbus XXL to accommodate 1,000 passengers.
The Airbus A380 is currently the largest passenger plane in the world. However, the European aircraft manufacturer is working on plans for an extra large version of the type.
Initially the company had plans for a super-plane in 2006, which were put on the back burner when there were production problems with the A380.
The projections now are that air traffic over the next twenty years will grow substantially and that worldwide around 28,000 new aircraft will be needed to meet that demand.
According to the manufacturer, not only infrastructure must be built to keep up with demand, but it will also require aircraft with greater capacity.
"I really would not be surprised if the plans for the extra large version of the A380 by the end of this year become a reality," said John Leahy, Airbus commercial director.
BA, CX, EK......?
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All about economies of scale. With fuel prices guaranteed to rise, they have to look at reducing the cost of each seat.
Wouldn't they require bigger/heavier engines and more fuel to push the stretched 380 along?Quote:
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SAMC Signs Deal with Boeing
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"Shanghai Aircraft Manufacturing Co (SAMC) has signed a 10-year contract with Boeing Co for horizontal stabilizers for the company's 737 aircraft, an SAMC official said on Sept 20.
"This is the largest single supplier contract China's aviation industry has signed with Boeing," said He Dongfeng, president of SAMC.
Both Boeing and SAMC declined to disclose the value of the contract, but an SAMC employee with knowledge of the deal said on condition of anonymity that it must be more than $100 million.
"It will take 10 years to deliver," He said, but declined to disclose the number of horizontal stabilizers involved.
The contract will take effect next month.
In January, SAMC delivered its 2,000th 737 horizontal stabilizer to Boeing in 11 years - the company can currently make a month.
Horizontal stabilizers are fixed on the tail of aircraft to balance the aircraft.
Boeing has 35 suppliers in China, and it is the largest buyer of aviation parts made in the country, committing hundreds of millions of dollars annually to its suppliers.
"About 6,000 aircraft from Boeing, flying all over the world, have Chinese fingerprints," said Bertrand Marc Allen, president of Boeing China.
The Boeing 737, the company's most popular aircraft, has had more than 9,000 orders to date, and currently has a backlog of more than 2,100 orders.
Boeing is under heavy pressure to deliver so many orders, Allen said, and it tries to work closely with suppliers, including SAMC, to increase the production rate of the 737 from the current 31.5 to 42 a month by 2014.
The contract was signed during the 14th Beijing Aviation Expo, the oldest aviation expo in China. Almost 200 aviation companies are attending the event, which runs from Sept 21 to 24.
Boeing has shown models of its new aircraft, including the 787 Dreamliner and 737 MAX, during the expo. The 787 Dreamliner has already got 60 orders from five Chinese airlines, which will be delivered from early 2012.
Airbus SAS is showing an A380 at the expo. It will deliver the first of these to a Chinese customer in October.
Embraer SA, an important regional aircraft manufacturer, forecasts that China will have 975 new regional aircraft in the next 20 years, accounting for 13 percent of global market demand."
Harry, Ive had about 6hours sleep in the last 5 days, then you post this! My brain Hurts:) In the middle of the night at 1/2 time I say a rating from passengers top 10 airlines. Virgin and Virgin Atlantic with New Zealand were in the top 10 with Royal Thai at 10 the other 6 All from the middle east!Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
So that would sort of say that the average Christian likes to fly Muslim Air! Strange world isn't it.:mid: