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    UK's Sunak says first migrant flight to Rwanda will leave in 10-12 weeks

    British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said on Monday the first flight carrying asylum seekers to Rwanda would leave in 10-12 weeks, as he set out plans for for his flagship policy to tackle illegal migration.


    Speaking at a press conference, Sunak said he would not outline the exact operational details of the plan, but said the government had made specific preparations.


    "I can confirm that we've put an airfield on standby, booked commercial charter planes for specific slots, and we have 500 highly trained individuals ready to escort illegal migrants all the way to Rwanda with 300 more trained in the coming weeks," Sunak said.

    "We are ready. Plans are in place. And these flights will go come what may."


    Under the timeline Sunak set out, the first flight would leave in July.


    Sunak also said he was "confident" that the plan complied with all of Britain's international obligations, responding to a question about its membership of the European Convention on Human Rights.


    "If it ever comes to a choice between our national security — securing our borders — and membership of a foreign court, I'm, of course, always going to prioritise our national security," he said, referring to the European Court of Human Rights.

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    It should work out at around 3 million pounds per prisoner.

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    Why Rwanda? Aren’t there illegal migrants from other countries?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    It should work out at around 3 million pounds per prisoner.
    Not sure if that's a joke or serious.

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    It's both.

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    Brexit meant the Uk's withdrawal from the Dublin Agreements and the EU common policy. Britain in the eyes of all economic migrants not eligible for a visa became immediately attractive given that inadmissible arrivals there could not be returned to the EU.

    That is why they have come up with this stupid and expensive Rwanda scheme, which is still subject to legal challenge under the EHRA and ECHR.

    Brexit had no benefit whatsoever. It was Britain's answer to Trumpism.

    Fucking stupid English, really.

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    Yvette Cooper MP summed up the situation well:

    It is a totally farcical situation: a Prime Minister who does not think it is a deterrent, a Home Secretary who thinks it is “batshit”, a former Home Secretary who says it will not work, a former Immigration Minister who says it does not do the job and everyone who thinks that what we have is an incredibly expensive sham with the taxpayer being conned.

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    50 illegals out then they bring 50 back even Rwanda don't want, whats the point?

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    You have to understand the Brexit vote destroyed the Conservative Party and forced the estrangement of over 100 MPs whose qualifications for ministerial posts were intelligence, integrity, talent and skill. In the ensuing aftermath the new Brexitory Party was formed with 60 eccentric and unbalanced ERG MPs at its nucleus led by the BoJo the Clown and it was this rabble that formed subsequent governments in which qualification for Cabinet was not among my aforementioned listed virtues but was reliant solely in the belief that Brexit was not a fucking stupid disaster. Therefore, in order to qualify for the role of Minister of State one had to be a fucking idiot.

    And that is why nothing in Britain today works properly or is even remotely sensible and has become the most indebted and taxed since wartime.

    But soon we will return to proper government and the long process of rebuilding Britain can begin.

    Frankly, I fear it is too late and will take too long to put right.

    But, a return to the common EU migration framework is vital if this armada of migrants is to be stopped.

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    Yet for all the predicted dire consequences of BREXIT that have come true, I don't recall anyone ever predicting 'A PM and cabinet too idiotic to run a village tombola - because they are all brexiters'.

    Did you see that St George's Day 'march' where the arrests were almost all outside the pub at the starting point because they were all arseholed?

    Rings a few bells regarding TD's BREXITer wing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    UK's Sunak says first migrant flight to Rwanda will leave in 10-12 weeks
    I want to see it before I believe it.

    Similar talk and plans here

    Criminal migrants to be jailed in the Baltics and Albania

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    Migrants drown in English Channel hours after UK passes Rwanda policy

    Five migrants, including a child, died in an attempt to cross the English Channel from France to Britain in an overcrowded small boat on Tuesday, hours after Britain passed a bill to deport asylum seekers to Rwanda in a move to deter the dangerous journeys.


    The deaths occurred when a boat carrying 112 people set out to cross one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world and panic took hold among the passengers not far from the shore.


    Rescuers picked up 49 people, with four taken to hospital, but others stayed on the boat, determined to get to Britain.


    The French coastguard was still searching for any survivors.


    “A tragedy occurred on a boat overloaded with migrants early this morning. We deplore the deaths of five people, a seven-year-old girl, a woman and three men,” local prefect Jacques Billant told reporters.


    “The engine stopped a few hundred meters away from the shore and several people fell into the water,” Billant said.


    The coastguard said 58 people had stayed on board.


    “They did not want to be rescued, they managed to restart the engine and headed towards Britain,” Billant said.


    The boat had left from Wimereux, about 32 km (20 miles) southwest of the French port of Calais.


    More than 6,000 people have arrived in Britain this year via small, overloaded boats – usually flimsy inflatable dinghies – that risk being lashed by the waves as they try to reach British shores.


    Tens of thousands have made the journey since 2018, and Britain has responded by spending two years trying to overcome
    opposition to a divisive policy to send asylum seekers to Rwanda which it hopes will deter people from making the crossings.


    FURTHER CHALLENGES


    The British parliament finally passed legislation overnight to allow the deportations and Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has said he expects the first flights to take off in 10 to 12 weeks, giving time for further legal challenges from charities, campaigners and unions.


    Human rights groups and other critics say the policy is inhumane but Sunak told reporters on Tuesday that the government
    was acting out of compassion, wanting to prevent people smugglers from pushing vulnerable people out to sea.


    “They are packing more and more people into these unseaworthy dinghies, you’ve seen an enormous increase in the
    numbers over the past few years,” he said. “This is what tragically happens.”


    Several British border force boats were seen arriving in Dover, southern England, on Tuesday, carrying large groups of
    migrants.


    A Reuters witness estimated that around 200 people believed to be migrants disembarked at Dover – about 42 km (26 miles)
    across the water from Calais – on Tuesday.


    It was not clear if the migrants on the boat involved in the Wimereux incident were among them.


    Under the Rwanda scheme, anyone arriving illegally in Britain after Jan. 1, 2022 will be sent to Rwanda, some 6,400 km
    (4,000 miles) away. More than 50,000 people have arrived since that date, according to official figures.


    Campaigners said deterrence policies simply would not work.


    “I know that when you’re running for your life, not even the risk of death can stop you trying to reach safety,” said Kolbassia Haoussou from the British-based Freedom from Torture group.


    The mayor of Wimereux, Jean-Luc Dubaele, said migrants could still get jobs in Britain, which made it an attractive
    destination regardless.


    “The English are responsible for the situation,” he said.


    The first deportation flight to Rwanda in June 2022 was blocked by European judges. Britain’s Supreme Court then upheld
    a ruling that the scheme was unlawful because migrants were at risk of being sent back to their homelands or to other countries where they would be at risk of mistreatment.




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    Asylum seekers pouring into Ireland from UK, says minister.


    More than 80pc of migrants and refugees in Republic have entered country via land border, Irish Parliament committee told

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    24 April 2024 • 8:42pm


    More than 80 per cent of asylum seekers in Ireland cross into the country from the UK, an Irish government minister has said.

    Tensions over immigration have risen in Ireland amid an increase in migrant arrivals and an acute housing crisis that has forced some asylum seekers to sleep in tents.

    Migrants and refugees were crossing the border with Northern Ireland, Helen McEntee, the justice minister, told an Irish Parliament scrutiny committee.

    “This is the challenge that we have, that we have advocated for an open border on this island,” she said. “It is absolutely a challenge.”

    As she gave evidence on Ireland’s decision to opt into new EU asylum rules that aim to speed up migrant returns, the minister added: “I would say it’s higher than 80 per cent.”



    The UK and Ireland share a Common Travel Area, which predates both countries’ membership of the EU.



    During the Brexit negotiations, Dublin insisted that the border on the island of Ireland be kept “invisible”, without infrastructure such as checkpoints. It argued this would protect the peace process and safeguard Ireland’s place in the EU’s Single Market. Brexiteers accused Dublin of “weaponising” the border.

    The UK and EU eventually agreed to create an Irish Sea border for British goods and animals entering Northern Ireland to prevent a hard Irish border. Northern Ireland continues to follow hundreds of EU rules as part of the agreement, which enraged some Unionists.

    The Irish Times reported a Department of Justice source as saying it was difficult to be exact about the numbers crossing into Ireland from Northern Ireland.

    The source said more than 80 per cent of asylum claims were made at the International Protection Office in Dublin, without an application being first made at a port or airport.

    The Irish Government believes that almost all those people have arrived from the UK. A significant number are thought to be Nigerians, and there has been a spike in asylum claims from Nigeria.

    There is a returns agreement with the UK, which would allow Ireland to return migrants with refugee status in Britain.

    Last month, Ireland’s High Court ruled that a decision by the Irish government to list the UK as a “safe country” to return asylum seekers to was unlawful. A judge found that Ms McEntee had exceeded her powers in designating the UK as a safe country after Brexit took legal effect.


    She is now bringing forward legislation to remedy the deadlock, which comes amid controversy over the UK’s Rwanda plan. In 2022, the Irish government blamed the Rwanda plan for a surge in the numbers of migrants arriving in Ireland.


    In October, Leo Varadkar, who was the prime minister at the time, warned that Ireland had reached the limit of support it could offer to refugees.

    Dublin moved to tighten its rules after Mr Varadkar claimed Ireland made a “better offering” to migrants than countries such as the UK.

    There were anti-immigration riots in Dublin in November, and asylum seeker centres in Ireland have been targeted with arson attacks.

    Ireland, a country of about five million people that welcomed more than 100,000 Ukrainian refugees after Vladimir Putin’s illegal invasion.

    Data released last year showed that there were 13,651 non-Ukranian applications for international protection in Ireland in 2022 – a 186 per cent increase from 2019, the last comparable year before the pandemic.
    the fact is, nobody wants the fuckers.

    if they are nigerian then they will probably have come to the uk on a work visa, and now they are entering the eu via a porous border and claiming asylum in order to eventually gain eu citizenship along with all the rights and handouts that go along with that. they are no more than illegal economic migrants looking for state cash.

    the eu leaders do not want us to be british, french, irish, or german, they want us to be federalised europeans. but the inconvenient truth is that their forced march will lead us within 2 generations to become african muslims. history repeating itself.

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    Life must be seriously hard if they're pouring into fokin' Ireland.


    There was an avalanche of Poles and Black Fellas arriving there in the early 2000s, by the mid 2000s every single fat, dole-bludging council estate slag was hanging off the arm of one. All the Poles were able to come over, register for the dole, then fly back to Polo-Land for a fiver on Ryanair, then come back every 4 weeks to sign, collect and fly back to Whoresaw. Think it was about 800 euro a month they were able to drain while living back at home. That rort was put an end to a few years and around 30 Trillion euros later.

    I can't imagine the cut of the place now 20 years later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    the fact is, nobody wants the fuckers.

    if they are nigerian then they will probably have come to the uk on a work visa, and now they are entering the eu via a porous border and claiming asylum in order to eventually gain eu citizenship along with all the rights and handouts that go along with that. they are no more than illegal economic migrants looking for state cash.

    the eu leaders do not want us to be british, french, irish, or german, they want us to be federalised europeans. but the inconvenient truth is that their forced march will lead us within 2 generations to become african muslims. history repeating itself.
    Careful, Tax, those meds are kicking in again.

    I suggest you take an easy dander up Oswaldthwaite Crag and give those nethers a good flap lest you blather yourself into a grumple strop and need nurse again.


    You're not a young ‘un anymore and this coon obsession ain’t good for your niblicks.

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    Fit risk takers should be conscipted immediatley before their undoubted talents recruited by the gangs, not allowed to work living in a hotel where better to launch drug peddling, selling multinicks or snail bars

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    Yeah, send them to Ukraine to help the war effort. Plenty of places they can use their newly learnt boat skills...

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    I don't get it, can't they just send them there in little rubber dinghies?

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    s.a.
    coon obsession
    coons? at the last count most of them were vietnamese slopes.

    do keep up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    I can't imagine the cut of the place now 20 years later.
    Seems to be a bit hairy-lairy over there at the mo.




    Guess that people that are working everyday while struggling to get by are a bit tired of continuingly paying for illegals to be housed better than they are.

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    The Irish Government wants to send asylum seekers back to Britain
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    Ireland's new Prime Minister, Simon Harris, has asked his justice minister to provide a legal basis for sending asylum seekers crossing the land border between Ireland and Northern Ireland back to Britain. It writes the British public service media BBC.

    The justice minister, Helen McEntee, is due to meet with British Home Secretary James Cleverly tomorrow, according to Irish public broadcaster RTÉ.

    Earlier this week, it emerged that there has been an increase in the number of asylum seekers crossing the Irish-Northern Ireland border, reports the BBC.

    The fear is that the new British law allowing asylum seekers to be sent to Rwanda, passed on Thursday, is causing more people to cross the border into Ireland.

    "Ireland should not be a loophole in UK immigration law," Prime Minister Harris said.

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    Good luck

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    Considering it's pretty much the whole point of the 'Rwanda Disincentive', it seems unlikely that Cleverly will do any more than offer some hollow words

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    1800s - they steal all the potatoes.

    1900s - they steal all the skilled labourers.

    2000s - they give loads of illegal people that need food such as potatoes and homes built by skilled labourers!


    No wonder lots of Irish join up to fight the UFC and the such.

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