Thread: France to ban female students from wearing abayas in state schools

Agreed, why pander to pedifiles?

Must be quite hot in the summer.


But nice in the winter.


A hindrance in spring, if it gets soaked and heavy in the spring rains.


A bit blustery in autumn.







I guess that's....



Seasons in the abayas.

I have mixed feelings re: this (to wear or not to wear a hijab or abaya). I think it should be the choice of the woman to wear it (or not wear it).

The past 10 years, there have been more Muslims in my hometown. Most of them came from Mindanao (the south) and went north (to be near the Manila area) in search of better & more peaceful lives. Some of them left Mindanao to escape the fighting between the Muslim insurgents vs military in the south. To me, they are my countrymen/ women and they have the right to live anywhere in PH. As long as they follow the local rules, I'm OK with them. Many of them have established small businesses, selling clothes/ shoes/ phone accessories in kiosks. Some of the adult women wear the hijab ("turong" as they call it here).

During Ramadan, the imam from the nearby mosque can be heard praying over the loudspeaker. He sometimes starts at 5 or 5:30 am. It's just something that one gets used to, like the noise of roosters, dogs or cats in heat.

During schooldays, I sometimes see the little Muslim girls wearing long sleeved undergarments under their cotton blouses/ uniforms. Some look to be as young as 7 yrs old (1st grade). The kids also wore hijabs. I thought that Muslim girls only started wearing the veil/ hijab when they got their first period (have read that somewhere). So I was surprised to see 1st graders wearing long sleeves & hijabs. I pity the lil girls since they go to a public school (I know their uniforms) - their classrooms are not air-conditioned and they have to wear hijabs & long sleeved shirts. Must be super hot, esp during summer.

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As for the rules in France, i.e. No abaya in classrooms - their country, their rules. (shrug)

In Aotearoa New Zealand, from what I've observed, in typical New Zealand fashion (pun intended) no one cares one way or the other.

Has to be banned so as to have a legit reason for not wearing it....or else be hassled by the male mussie population.

Originally Posted by katie23

As for the rules in France, i.e. No abaya in classrooms - their country, their rules. (shrug)

It's a secular country so very different to The Philippines.

No religious symbols of any faith are allowed in classrooms in France: Muslim, Christian, Sikh etc.

Nobody has any choice in this matter. Your faith doesn't come into it.

Originally Posted by happynz

In Aotearoa New Zealand, from what I've observed, in typical New Zealand fashion (pun intended) no one cares one way or the other.

Whatever happened to that roo blow-in that used them for target practice? Already sentenced to life, or someone got to him first?

Originally Posted by hallelujah

It's a secular country so very different to The Philippines.

No religious symbols of any faith are allowed in classrooms in France: Muslim, Christian, Sikh etc.

Nobody has any choice in this matter. Your faith doesn't come into it.

I presume religious studies in the schools are based on educating the students about the different religions and their beliefs, not that one religion is true and if you don't believe it, you're going to burn for eternity in hell. PS. Send money.


Which is the way every national curriculum should be.

https://twitter.com/Justice_forum/st...OKQ044MUw&s=19


some might find the info in the link informative. it is a sermon given by an imam at birminghams (uk) mosque on the correct etiquette to be observed whilst stoning a woman to death for adultery.

coming to a village green near you by 2045.

PS. Birmingham’s green lane mosque has recently received a government grant of 2.2 million.

Originally Posted by Edmond

I presume religious studies in the schools are based on educating the students about the different religions and their beliefs, not that one religion is true and if you don't believe it, you're going to burn for eternity in hell. PS. Send money.


Which is the way every national curriculum should be.

There speaks a fellow Catholic.

The school does not transmit faith, it transmits knowledge
This teaching favours an objective approach to religion, based on a claimed distinction between the sphere of beliefs (which should not be taught in school) and the sphere of knowledge. Therefore, religion is taught instead as historical, social, and cultural facts through transdisciplinary teaching: history, literature, history of the arts, music education, art class, and philosophy.[9] In other words, the teaching of religious facts (e.g. rites, founding texts, customs, symbols, social events, and artworks) aims to present the diversity of representations of the world to better understand societies of the past and the cultural heritage of today. It is therefore a cultural and intellectual issue.[10]

I just googled to look at the dates and it was 1882 when indoctrination through religion was abolished. One of only 2 European countries not to teach it.

Can you guess the other?

Originally Posted by Edmond

Must be quite hot in the summer.


But nice in the winter.


A hindrance in spring, if it gets soaked and heavy in the spring rains.


A bit blustery in autumn.







I guess that's....



Seasons in the abayas.

nice to see Minty MacMao on top form

taking abiss after recent mental ructions

Yule be ready for a new nick by shrovetide, neigh Michelamas

Originally Posted by katie23

I have mixed feelings re: this

Ofcourse

Kudos

(I have mixed feelings too)

So France & Norway?