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The Americans said the same recently.
Can you find a german soldier with combat experience ?Quote:
Originally Posted by malmomike77
Maybe in the French Foreign Legion, but doubtful in the Bundeswehrmacht
Probably notQuote:
Originally Posted by malmomike77
They are probably expecting Blitzkrieg with the 14 tanks they supplied them
Jawohl
"Immer die Leoparden Wunderwaffe zuerst benutschen und denn das Vollssturm."
Paper pushers
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Originally Posted by helge
Germany pays tribute to troops who served in Afghanistan | AP NewsQuote:
More than 150,000 German troops served in Afghanistan between the beginning of 2002 and their final withdrawal this summer. Germany was in recent years the second-biggest troop provider after the United States. Fifty-nine German troops died in Afghanistan missions over the years.
Ouch !
Looks like they had around ten casualties under fire during the years.Quote:
With a contingent of 4,350 soldiers and policemen, Germany was one of the main contributors of troops to coalition operations in Afghanistan. Although German troops mainly operated in the comparatively quiet north of the country, the Bundeswehr suffered a number of casualties during participation in the International Security Assistance Force mission in Afghanistan.
The rest was IED, Suicide bombers, accidents, suicide etc, which I think isn't unusal numbers for other participants.
Doesn't say how many they killed, which I guess is what the ukranians are interested in aswell.
Maybe it's only ..Harry, who make such public
Still..
Ukraine has launched the main thrust of its counteroffensive, throwing in thousands of troops held in reserve, many of them Western-trained and equipped, two Pentagon officials said on Wednesday, hours after Russian officials reported major Ukrainian attacks in the southern Zaporizhzhia region.
A spokesman for Russia’s Defense Ministry, Igor Konashenkov, said the Ukrainians had mounted a “massive” assault with three battalions, reinforced with tanks, south of the town of Orikhiv, and then another a few miles farther south near the village of Robotyne, according to the state news agency Tass. Both were repelled, the ministry said.
Other American officials cautioned that the latest Ukrainian attack might be preparatory operations for the main thrust or perhaps just reinforcements to replenish war-weary units.
The challenge for the Ukrainians, since they began their counteroffensive in early June, has been to blast open a gap in the deep Russian defense network, and then try to pour through a much larger force.
Speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations, officials at the White House and Pentagon said on Wednesday that they were watching the increased activity with keen interest, and that Ukrainian officials had told them the new operation, if successful, would last one to three weeks.
“This is the big test,” said one senior official.
Administration officials and analysts said it might be only a matter of days to assess whether the attacks might be successful. “It will be clear soon whether this attack will allow Ukraine to change the current dynamic,” said Michael Kofman, a senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.
Ukrainian officials declined to confirm that the assaults took place.
The force cited by the Kremlin — three battalions, roughly up to 3,000 troops — is relatively small. A Russian occupation official describing the attack referred on the Telegram app to Ukrainian “brigades,” and in a later post to “battalions,” a major difference. A brigade typically has three to five battalions.
The United States and other Western allies have trained about 63,000 Ukrainian troops, according to the Pentagon, and have supplied more than 150 modern battle tanks, a much larger number of older tanks, hundreds of infantry fighting vehicles and thousands of other armored vehicles. All of those figures continue to rise, and much of that manpower and gear had been held in reserve until now, as Ukrainian forces fought to find — or create — a strategic vulnerability they could exploit.
The American officials said most of the remaining reserves were now being committed.
In villages all along the southern front line on Wednesday, unusually heavy artillery fire could be heard as Ukrainian guns thundered from hidden positions and Russian artillery and mortars targeted former Russian positions and villages now occupied by Ukrainian soldiers. Ukrainian troops deployed along that part of the front say they are steadily pushing the Russian troops back in what they describe as step by step, rather than breakthrough, movements.
Since seizing Ukrainian territory in last year’s invasion, the Russians have built a dense defensive web of minefields, trenches, bunkers, tank traps and obstacles along a front line that curves and winds hundreds of miles through the Zaporizhzhia region in the south and the Donetsk and Luhansk regions to the east. That has made the counteroffensive slow going, frustrating both Ukrainians and their Western backers.
Ukraine May Have Launched Main Counteroffensive Thrust, U.S. Says - The New York Times
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1. Bakhmut
Ukrainian forces continued advancing around the city of Bakhmut in the east, claiming gains along the Bila Hora-Andriivka and Bila Hora-Kurdyumivka lines southwest of the city that was captured by Russian troops in May. Over the past week, Ukraine’s General Staff reported that Kyiv’s fighters had liberated more than 1.5 square miles of territory in the area, including an important position outside the strategic village of Klishchiivka. Capturing the village itself, which lies on higher ground, could potentially allow Ukrainian soldiers to encircle Russians inside Bakhmut.
2. Tavria
Ukraine claimed to have recaptured several villages in the south of the country as part of its budding push toward the Sea of Azov, with the aim of cutting off Russia’s land bridge linking occupied areas in the east to Crimea. A general in charge of that sector said his troops repelled 27 enemy attacks and inflicted hundreds of casualties on the enemy.
3. Zaporizhzhia
Kyiv’s forces launched a successful missile strike on a Russian base in the occupied town of Tokmak in the southern Zaporizhzhia region, killing as many as 200 soldiers and the town commandant. Overall in the eastern theater, Ukraine’s military said its troops had retaken 65 square miles of territory since the start of the counteroffensive in early June.
4. Berdyansk and Melitopol
Kyiv’s forces reportedly inched forward more than half a mile in the Berdyansk and Melitopol directions in the south in recent days — and a total of more than 5 miles since the beginning of counteroffensive operations in these directions. In Berdyansk, a key port city on the Black Sea, a Ukrainian Storm Shadow missile strike this week leveled a hotel housing Russian military commanders, among them a high-ranking general who was killed.
5. Bakhmut
Kyiv said its troops had advanced about a mile on the flanks of the ravaged city of Bakhmut in the Donetsk region in eastern Ukraine, which was seized by Russia’s Wagner Group mercenaries in May after months of fighting and handed over to the regular units. Moscow claimed it had fought off the assault, and senior US officials said that Ukrainian troops in the east sustained “significant” losses in soldiers and equipment.
6. Belgorod
Pro-Ukrainian rebels have been carrying out raids into the Russian city of Belgorod located on the border with Ukraine, as Kyiv’s forces continued shelling the city and sowing chaos. Thousands of residents have been evacuated from the region, sparking fury in the Kremlin. Partisans taking part in the Belgorod campaign said when Crimea is liberated, they will march on Moscow.
So the FIE decided to disqualify a Ukrainian Fencer who beat a Russian opponent, because she would not shake her opponents hand.
However, the IOC has effectively forced them to back track.
From now on:
I envisage the Ukrainian "remote greeting" will be something along these lines:Quote:
"The traditional handshake at the end of the match will be immediately replaced with a remote greeting, which will allow the Ukrainians not to approach the Russians, even if they compete as neutrals."
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I preferred the way the Ukrainian drew her sword and pointed it at the Russian as she approached for the handshake.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Ukrainian Tank Losses Diminish As Polish Technicians Save More And More Damaged Leopard 2s
How many Western-made tanks has Ukraine lost in the first seven weeks of its long-anticipated southern counteroffensive?
That entirely depends on how many damaged tanks the Ukrainians can repair—or get their allies to repair for them. If Kyiv’s forces can fix up every tank analysts have counted as damaged, losses of Leopard 2 tanks might total ... three.
Considering that Ukraine’s allies so far have delivered 95 tanks, that’s not bad. The low loss rate mostly is attributable to the survivability of Western tank designs. It’s not all that difficult to immobilize a German Leopard 2, British Challenger 2 or American M-1. It however is hard to destroy one.
Whereas Russian tanks store their shells under their turrets and tend to burst like firecrackers when hit, Western tanks usually keep their ammunition in special compartments designed to vent outward in the event of a secondary explosion. That tends to preserve a damaged vehicle’s overall integrity.
As long as Ukraine has access to repair facilities, its slowly-growing arsenal of European and American tanks should endure. And thanks to a recent agreement between the governments of Poland and Germany, access to facilities is getting easier.
After weeks of dithering, early this week German tank-makers Rheinmetall and Krauss-Maffei Wegmannand Polish holding company Polska Grupa Zbrojeniowa, or PGZ, inked a deal allowing PGZ to repair Ukrainian Leopard 2s.
Rheinmetall/KMW is famously strict about enforcing its ownership of the Leopard 2 design. While there are foreign factories for producing and upgrading licensed Leopard 2s—PGZ for one produces uniquely Polish Leopard 2PLs by deeply upgrading German-manufactured Leopard 2A4s from the 1980s—every major Leopard 2 initiative requires a fresh contract.
Rheinmetall/KMW and PGZ—more to the point, their respective governments—disagreed on the cost of the repairs. PGZ planned to do the actual work on the damaged Ukrainian tanks at its factory in Gliwice just west of Krakow, but the German government had agreed to pay for the work.
PGZ claimed it would cost 100,000 Euros per tank just to diagnose each tank’s damage. Rheinmetall/KMW claimed the cost of diagnostics should be 10,000 Euros.
Several battle-damaged Ukrainian Leopard 2A4s were already waiting in Poland when the Poles and Germans finally hammered out a compromise. Work on Ukrainian Leopards got underway this week. Polish prime minister Mateusz Morawiecki dropped by the Gliwice factory to commemorate the event.
Photos depict at least four Leopard 2A4s at the PGZ plant. That accounts for all three Leopard 2A4s that the open-source intelligence collective Oryx has confirmed as damaged, plus one 2A4 that escaped notice. The Ukrainian army appears to have lost just one Leopard 2A4 that’s a total write-off.
The 69-ton, four-crew Leopard 2A4 is the most numerous of Ukraine’s Western tanks. Kyiv’s forces so far have received 40 of the 54 A4s that Canada, Denmark, Germany, Poland, Spain and Norway together have pledged.
The newer Leopard 2A6, with its tougher armor and longer gun, is rarer. Germany and Portugal together pledged 21 A6s. Sweden donated 10 examples of the Strv 122: a local version of the Leopard 2A5 that mostly matches the A6’s capabilities, minus the longer gun.
All 31 A5/A6s have arrived in Ukraine. And in the two months of the counteroffensive, two A6s have been destroyed and five damaged. No A5/Strv 122s have been hit, as far as outside observers can tell.
In the worst case, the Ukrainians have lost a third of their best Leopard 2s. But only if the five damaged A6s are impossible to repair. No A6s have showed up at the PGZ plant yet, but they may do so soon.
Rheinmetall has plans to set up two more tank repair centers—one in Romania and, eventually, another in Ukraine proper. The United States meanwhile plans to establish a repair facility in Poznan, Poland for the 31 M-1s that should start arriving in Ukraine in September. British firm Babcock is handling Challenger 2 repairs.
By the time all 240 Leopard 1, Leopard 2, M-1 and Challenger 2 tanks reach Ukraine, possibly early next year, there could be as many as five foreign repair centers supporting the fleet.
Given how tough German, American and British tanks are, and how much damage they can absorb without exploding into a million tiny pieces, those five facilities could keep busy, fixing up tanks—possibly more than once—and sending them back to the front line.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidax...h=4295e9df5e38
It is time that the ruzzian scum in moscow had a taste of the war. It is only going to get worse for them.
https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1685573885029138432
CNN — Russia says Ukraine targeted Moscow with drones on Sunday, the latest in a series of attacks that have brought the Ukraine war to Russia’s capital.
The Russian Defense Ministry said three drones were intercepted but a business and shopping development in the west of the capital was hit. The fifth and sixth floor of a 50-story building were damaged, and no casualties were reported, state news agency TASS reported.
Videos showed debris as well as emergency services at the scene.
A spokesman for Ukraine’s Air Force said the latest drone attacks on Moscow were aimed at impacting Russians who, since the Kremlin invaded Ukraine in February 2022, felt the war was distant.
“There’s always something flying in Russia, as well as in Moscow. Now the war is affecting those who were not concerned,” the spokesman, Yurii Ihnat, said on Ukrainian television.
“No matter how the Russian authorities would like to turn a blind eye on this by saying they have intercepted everything … something does hit.”
Ukraine’s military has increasingly been deploying unmanned aerial vehicles for more than just reconnaissance.
Ukrainian Minister Mykhailo Fedorov, whose Digital Transformation Ministry oversees the country’s “Army of Drones” procurement plan, had said there would be more drone strikes to come as Kyiv ramps up a summer counteroffensive aimed at pushing Russian troops out of Ukrainian territory.
Moscow was targeted earlier this week. Ukraine claimed responsibility for a strike on Monday that hit two non-residential buildings, including one near the Ministry of Defense headquarter. Russia called that incident a “terrorist attack,” although the Kremlin’s military actions in Ukraine have regularly caused civilian casualties.
A Russian missile attack in the northeastern Ukrainian city of Sumy late on Saturday killed one civilian and injured another five, while a rocket strike on Zaporizhzhia left another two people dead.
Both areas had been subject to lengthy bombardments over the weekend. Ukrainian authorities in Sumy said there had been 25 instances of shelling in a single day, while a military leader in Zaporizhzhia said Russian forces had carried out 77 attacks on 20 settlements across the Zaporizhzhia, hitting 31 residential buildings and other pieces of infrastructure.
Though the strikes in Moscow did not reportedly cause any injuries or fatalities, they have unsettled residents of the Russian capital.
One witness to Sunday’s attack explained how the incident upended some planned down time.
“My friends and I rented an apartment to come here and unwind, and at some point, we heard an explosion – it was like a wave, everyone jumped,” she told Reuters. “There was a lot of smoke, and you couldn’t see anything. From above, you could see fire.”
Ukrainian drones also targeted the Russian-occupied Crimean Peninsula on Sunday.
Russia’s Defense Ministry said it intercepted 25 unmanned aerial vehicles over the territory, which Moscow illegally annexed from Ukraine in 2014, shooting down 16 of them with air defense systems.
The other nine crashed into the Black Sea after their signals were jammed by electronic warfare equipment, according to the ministry. There do not appear to have been any casualties, but CNN has not been able to verify claims made by Russia’s Defense Ministry.
Moscow targeted by Ukrainian again as Kyiv steps up drone attacks inside Russia | CNN
No news from the slaughter down south ?
What a pitiful fucking retard this bloke is.
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If Ukraine’s ongoing counteroffensive against Moscow’s invasion captures Russian territory, there would be no alternative to using strategic nuclear weapons, Russia’s Dmitry Medvedev warned on Sunday.
“There would simply be no other way out” of using nuclear weapons if the Ukrainian offensive succeeded in taking Russian territory, Medvedev, former Russian president and current National Security Council deputy chairman, said in a post on social media.
“Just imagine that the NATO-supported ukrobanderovtsy’s offensive turned out successful, and they took away a part of our land: Then we would have to, following the president’s degree of 02.06.2020, use the nuclear weapon,” Medvedev wrote, referring to followers of Stepan Bandera, a nationalist leader who waged a violent campaign for Ukrainian independence in the 1930s and 1940s.
“That’s why our enemies must worship our warriors. They are keeping global nuclear fire from flaring up,” Medvedev said, referring to Russian efforts to stop the Ukrainian offensive.
Nuclear weapons on the table if Ukraine counteroffensive succeeds: Russia’s Medvedev – POLITICO
Does anyone really believe Putins bum boy Medvedev?
He does talk in a Comical Ali kind of way.
I guess that his nuclear threats are believed in Washington, London, Paris etc.
No invading Russia on this side of a regime change
I would think they all piss themselves laughing.Quote:
Originally Posted by helge
If Putin uses nukes, Moscow would be glass.
No, and it should be noted that he is piss drunk when he posts those rants.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh Cow
They are claiming that they shot some drones down, but they are full of shit...
A skyscraper in Russia's capital Moscow has been hit again by a drone, Mayor Sergei Sobyanin says.
Several drones were shot down overnight, he said, but "one flew into the same tower at the Moskva City complex" that was targeted on Sunday.
The building's facade was damaged on the 21st floor, the mayor says. No injuries have been reported.
Russia's defence ministry blamed Ukraine for the latest attack. Kyiv usually makes no comments on the issue.
In a brief statement, Mr Sobyanin said that "glazing was destroyed over 150 square metres".
He added that emergencies services were working on the scene.
Meanwhile, the Russian defence ministry said two Ukrainian drones had been shot down by anti-aircraft systems in the Moscow region.
It said that another drone had crashed in the non-residential Moskva City complex after being "suppressed by electronic warfare".
Moscow's Vnukovo airport was briefly closed, Russian news agencies reported.
Moscow has repeatedly accused Ukraine of carrying out drone strikes on its territory in recent months, including one on the Kremlin - President Vladimir Putin's residence in the capital - back in May.
Although Ukraine has not claimed responsibility for specific incidents, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has said attacks on Russian territory are an "inevitable, natural and absolutely fair process".
Ukraine war: Same Moscow skyscraper hit in new drone attack - BBC News
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Ukrainians have been provided with a lot of artillery from multiple allies, including extensive precision rounds and counter-battery radar. Russian leaked reports from both their generals and their troops have complained extensively about the inability of Russia to defend against drone and radar-directed artillery strikes. See Popov comments. Reports from the battlefield indicate a big reduction in Russian artillery strikes, which relied upon massive saturation fire with "dumb" rounds. This has also accounted for about 70% or more of Ukrainian casualties, so this reduction is a huge development. Virtually all of these artillery pieces were manufactured in the Soviet era. They are suffering from metal fatigue and already being cannabalized to keep guns firing. The total numbers of pieces taken out by Ukrainian fire is also staggering:
https://twitter.com/randymot4/status...02372010618880
Snubby, - Randy Mott the self confessed Republican activist who produced that bilge is almost as big a tosser as you.
Do you still believe in Santa?
Unusual for a Republican not to be kissing Russia's arse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceman123
If they do, there is no idea in nukes.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Goes against 'mutual deterence', if one party "piss themselves laughing"
And you and me ?Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
You're really close.Quote:
Originally Posted by helge
The point of "mutual deterrence" or as it's better known "mutual assured destruction" is that even a wanker like Medvedev knows that even the high heeled war criminal would not ( or would not be allowed to ) launch a nuclear first strike over an insignificant piece of territory that isn't his in the first place.
You can relax. If it's keeping you awake at night, smoke a blunt.