Thread: Remains of 215 children found at Canadian Indigenous school

Originally Posted by marcusb

Don't understand why a couple posters are getting excited about "kiddy fiddlers", it's almost like it arouses them.
Read a lot of articles in the last month about the schools and about the 3 day meeting with the pope in Dec. I haven't heard any concerns about "sexual assaults", they absolutely happened, but that's not what this is about.

Tried to green you Norton, but out of ammo. Thanks for the input of your previous posts. I think you have 10 or 12 years on me so possibly you saw a bit more.

The burned church count was up to 9 yesterday, media is quiet about most of these, as is the general population. I actually get a kick out of it.


Going to be a lot more discoveries this year, and next. I think its good, get things out in the open, deal with them and move on. Some of the First Nations leaders have made some great speeches in the last few days. Well thought out, and not full of hate.


I do have a lot of interest in these things as my ex and my two sons are Swampy Cree from Northern Manitoba. Wife was lucky enough that they had elementary on the res, at 12 or 13 she had to decide whether to stop her education or move 300km away. She and 90% of her classmates stopped end of elementary.

Perhaps you missed all the Catholic kiddie fiddling that has gone on over the years. You have a weird world view if you think it "arouses" anyone but the paedophiles that perpertrated it.

The news in this thread is merely an extension of the rampant child abuse that this evil organisation has perpetrated over the years.

It should be shut down, and its assets stripped to compensate the victims.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Perhaps you missed all the Catholic kiddie fiddling that has gone on over the years.

I'm sure everyone knows what the Catholic Church has been up to worldwide but in this case you are connecting dots that currently aren't there.

Originally Posted by Norton

Only if, as you did, fail to include the bottom line in your quote.


The bottom line and the point to consider. Will the suffering inflicted by many European colonial nations on indigenious folks all over the world be subject to paying restitution?

and what if?

shouldnt restitution be paid?

Would that invalidate the evil ?

does the possibility somehow mean it didn’t happen?

Originally Posted by Norton

Will the suffering inflicted by many European colonial nations on indigenious folks all over the world be subject to paying restitution?

There aren't hundreds of graves that have just been discovered in countries all over the world.

Things like this must never be an issue of 'folks all over the world'. These are individuals and it's to be expected that restitution is appropriate.

Flogging two or three paintings from the Vatican should cover it.

Originally Posted by lom

I'm sure everyone knows what the Catholic Church has been up to worldwide but in this case you are connecting dots that currently aren't there.

You're using "connecting dots" wrong.

The bead rattling kiddie fiddlers have committed crimes against children since at least 1629 when they were first documented.

It is time they are found wholly culpable and punished accordingly.

Or better get them and their enablers completely disbanded

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The bead rattling kiddie fiddlers have committed crimes against children since at least 1629 when they were first documented.

Yes and how do you connect that to "Remains of 215 children found at Canadian Indigenous school"?

Originally Posted by lom

Yes and how do you connect that to "Remains of 215 children found at Canadian Indigenous school"?

Connect those fucking dots; if it's too difficult for you, I can give you clues.

The Marieval Indian Residential School was the responsibility of the Roman Catholic Church until 1968.

Catholic order that staffed Kamloops residential school refuses to share records families seek

St. Eugene's Mission School, which was operated by the Catholic Church

^ So you can't prove that they have been sexually abused, you only jump to the conclusion that it has happened in every Catholic church or Catholic school.
That is connecting dots that currently not are there, wait with that until the dots shows up.

Originally Posted by lom

^ So you can't prove that they have been sexually abused, you only jump to the conclusion that it has happened in every Catholic church or Catholic school.
That is connecting dots that currently not are there, wait with that until the dots shows up.

I include in child abuse:

Sexual assault
Rape
Starvation
Physical Violence
Psychological abuse
Neglect


But kiddie fiddling seems to be the Catholic forte.

Unless we start finding unmarked graves in other countries that this particular religious cancer has stained.

You seem to think it's OK to starve and neglect children to the point of death as long as you don't sexually abuse them.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

You seem to think it's OK to starve and neglect children to the point of death as long as you don't sexually abuse them.

Do I? You are way too quick in your jumping to conclusions.

Harriet's doing that even more than usual today.

That one was transparent even by his standards.

Shame on Canada': Thousands attend Cancel Canada Day rally on Parliament Hill


OTTAWA -- A sea of orange shirts replaced the usual red and white on Parliament Hill and in downtown Ottawa on July 1, as thousands of people called to "Cancel Canada Day" following the recent discovery of unmarked graves at three former residential schools.

The Anishnabe nation and Indigenous rights group Idle No More organized the "#CancelCanadaDay" march from the Indigenous Services Canada building in Gatineau to Parliament Hill on Thursday.
In a statement on its website, Idle No More said the gathering was to "honour all of the lives lost to the Canadian state."
"We will not celebrate the ongoing genocide within Canada against Indigenous people," says a statement on Facebook. "Instead we will gather to honour all of the lives lost to the Canadian state, including the many lives lost to residential schools."

Thousands of people, many wearing orange shirts, shouted "Shame on Canada", "No pride on genocide," and "Bring them home" as they walked onto Parliament Hill.

'Shame on Canada': Thousands attend Cancel Canada Day rally on Parliament Hill | CTV News











The scene on Parliament Hill yesterday. The people have spoken.
I was in Quebec and took this.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I include in child abuse:

Sexual assault
Rape
Starvation
Physical Violence
Psychological abuse
Neglect


But kiddie fiddling seems to be the Catholic forte

Indeed!

Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe

Idle No More

INM nice but maybe RLM would be better.

Originally Posted by Norton

RLM would be better

Real lives matter?

Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe

Let's hope that Canada sets a precedent. I realize that not just the church is involved, what about the government? The church gave ownership to the Federal government and the last school to close was well into the 90's.

Great comments by quite a few on this thread.

It really affects me as I taught on a Native reserve from Oct. last year to Feb. of this year, and it is so disturbing to me. I saw so much trauma in families when I worked on the reserve. I am so happy that this is finally coming out, because it is so long overdo. I really can't see the responsible being punished.. I do think that there will have to be big changes on Canada's native reserves. There are some that still don't have clean water or schools higher than primary, as marcus pointed out.

Presumably not English...

Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe

Real lives matter?

"Red" sent.

Originally Posted by cyrille

Things like this must never be an issue of 'folks all over the world'.

.

What world are you living in ? Lets make this simpler. Tell me one major nation state that doesn't have atrocities in its past if you go back far enough.

Originally Posted by marcusb

Expanding the circle of guilt. (rightly so)

This is such pathetic bs.

It's your mess - own it.

Originally Posted by cyrille

Harriet's doing that even more than usual today.

That one was transparent even by his standards.

I would add that just because there is no mention of any sexual abuse in these cases, it doesn't mean it didn't happen. There are no witnesses on account of the possible victims being dead and buried (in unmarked graves)

So don't rule out the kiddie fiddlers being up to their old tricks quite yet.

My mess? Your queen's head is now on the bottom of the Assiniboine river.