It doesn't matter what the people want, or what most people want, but which side is better funded and organised and prepared to do what it takes to achieve their objectives. In the case of Lebanon, this is not the majority of people that would like less corruption and a bit more peace.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
What is worse then a communist?Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
A: a wanna be communist who shouts shit that he has no clue about.
While you where typing your typical "I wanna be a communist idiot" BS, the plane has already landed.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/08/06/air-force-c-17-lands-beirut-relief-supplies-devastated-city.html
An idiot like you.Quote:
Originally Posted by HermantheGerman
Did China send some Bat soups to Lebanon or why don't I see them in your link? :chitown:Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
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Originally Posted by hallelujah
I guess your drunk again :confused1:Quote:
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The chinkies will be lining up some loans that Beirut will not be able to afford to pay back. So they can get the money straight back with some interest, use chinky labour to build a new port and when the loan defaults, nick it like they did in Sri Lanka.Quote:
Originally Posted by HermantheGerman
That is how they work.
There was a Lebanese woman on tv the other night saying in effect ‘bugger politics, guns and religion - I’m over that crap’.
There must be many like her who are beset by tribalism and sectarianism and who are heartily sick of that.
But what hope is there for change ? None.
Wondering where they have learned the trick from?Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Either side of the coin, you're both pretty much unbearable.Quote:
Originally Posted by HermantheGerman
So have any of our "caring" Lebanon fans bothered to donate any money yet?
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There was a Lebanese woman on tv the other night saying in effect ‘bugger politics, guns and religion - I’m over that crap’.
There must be many like her who are beset by tribalism and sectarianism and who are heartily sick of that.
But what hope is there for change ? None.
raghead sectarianism based on unhealthy religious beliefs and resulting in divisiveness, racism, mistrust, nepotism and violence will ensure that the middle east will always be a hotbed of retarded insanity and it will struggle to escape from the stone age mentality that has hamstrung the region for centuries.
got to feel sorry for the unfortunate innocents trying to earn a crust and bring up their families caught up in all this, but until they cast off the childish and illogical pride driven hatreds that fuel their culture, then nothing will change..... and all the while emigration exports their bullshit to the more civilised corners of the globe.
Precisely, but they'll supervise every phase of the rebuilding, rather than follow the somewhat naive western route of handing over money to corrupt politicians on the strength of worthless promises and hoping part of the job gets done.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Credit where due, they understand how things really work.
Well, in that case I'm delighted to be part of your miserable life.Quote:
Originally Posted by hallelujah
Prost mate!
Seriously nobody in Lebanon protests against corruption, they are all fighting for a fair share of corruption. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by docmartin
Oh no, they'll be spending some of that cashing lining the pockets of the politicians who would sign over the port to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by jabir
Get their money back.
Get interest.
Get a Port.
Then they'd probably start charging the Lebos to get things out of customs to boot.
And to shut up Hizbollah, they'll probably provide them with some nice chinky military hardware.
They don't give a fuck how they make their money.
Not only that they'll bring in their own crews to do the work.Quote:
Originally Posted by jabir
In other words , Lebannon will get a new port , will make some payments and then default. Which means they get the port for free. China will get strategic needs out of it and it will function for the Lebanons needs as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Looks like a win win. Far from ideal but better than having no fucking port at all
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Originally Posted by Backspin
You have no fucking idea what this is about, do you?
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The chinkies will be lining up some loans that Beirut will not be able to afford to pay back. So they can get the money straight back with some interest, use chinky labour to build a new port and when the loan defaults, nick it like they did in Sri Lanka.
^Why they do not do as others do?
Most U.S. Port Terminals Are Foreign-Run : NPR
Most U.S. Port Terminals Are Foreign-Run : NPR
Who owns the U.S. ports? - msnbc
Who owns the U.S. ports? - msnbc - Hardball with Chris Matthews | NBC News
Experts warn of China’s influence at U.S. ports
Experts warn of China’s influence at U.S. ports - FreightWaves
Unusual aspect of global trade no doubt to some.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
I'm following the lead of a western agency:Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Iran calls on US to lift sanctions on Lebanon, urges against ‘politicizing’ Beirut blast
"the Pentagon has claimed that it needs to be more cautious when administering aid to Lebanon, and expressed “concerns with whom the aid would go to.”
Iran calls on US to lift sanctions on Lebanon, urges against ‘politicizing’ Beirut blast — RT World News
You haven't read about the sanctions at all have you?Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
I'll repeat what I said, because you might have missed it, or perhaps you're trying to pretend it doesn't exist.
There are no sanctions against "Lebanon", there are sanctions against the Hizbollah terrorists and their terrorist supporters.
And how much did you donate to help the Lebanese about whom you pretend to care so much?
Here's the link again so that HooHoo and Backspin can demonstrate their sincerity.
Donation
The Seppo empire is a crew of raving hypocrites. After they won the so called war on communism , Clinton jumped in bed with the Communist party of China. It was all about regime change back then too. And its funny how badly that worked outQuote:
Originally Posted by Klondyke
The modern world is the hideous love child between Margret Thatcher and Deng Xiopeng
Beirut explosion: Lebanon's government 'to resign' as death toll rises
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The Lebanese government is reportedly about to resign amid mounting anger over last Tuesday's explosion in Beirut that killed more than 200 people.
Health Minister Hamad Hasan was quoted by Reuters news agency as saying an announcement would be made soon.
Three ministers have already stepped down, but there have been calls for the whole cabinet to go.
Beirut explosion: Lebanon's government 'to resign' as death toll rises - BBC News
time for the iranians via their proxy hezbollah to step up to the plate no doubt.
and their neighbours to the south will be tooling up on hearing this news.
Hezbollah have been backing Aoun.Quote:
Originally Posted by taxexile
They are way past the "stepping up" phase, except to trumpanzee-like Shi'ites.
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Originally Posted by Backspin
Backspin reminds me of that gobby fucker that kept getting tripped up in The Fast Show.
They have their politicians already in the coalition government. Not sure if any of them are those who have allegedly resigned, yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by taxexile
Typical western SOP, wreck a country, regime change, demanded by a funded managed mob, throw cash to allow promises to be made by a "selected few" candidates, place "support" (their unexceptional military) near by, to threaten.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
They need a decent government not the western vassals they had in place.
These I previously posted, yes.Quote:
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So HooHoo have you donated yet?
The link I provided is a solely Lebanese charity that has been around a long time, provides medical services, feeds and educates people, etc.
They will take food, blankets, or financial donations.
If you don't donate, one can only assume that you don't really care about the Lebanese people at all and you're just full of shit.
Then why do you keep calling them "sanctions against Lebanon"?Quote:
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There are no sanctions against "Lebanon", there are sanctions against the Hizbollah terrorists and their terrorist supporters.
Because they affect Lebanese citizens.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Why we do not understand such clear matter? (as 'arry's understanding - who can be more clever than him?)Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Hadn't such sanctions been imposed against Fidel and his party, not against Cuba, had they? And see how the sanctions have helped to Cuban people: their doctors can now help to cure their neighbours...
(similarly the sanctions are helping to Russians, wasn't here recently the link?)
Which is not the same as the country or its government. So stop being so stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
Not possible.Quote:
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The insights we have hereQuote:
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Have you made your donation yet?
Derp...wrong thread
It's all politics Harold. No amount of money will fix any of itQuote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Container lines resume calls to Beirut as terminal restarts operations
"Container lines have resumed calls to Beirut after last week’s explosion, with the terminal having sustained only minor damage, leading companies said on Tuesday. The Aug. 4 blast in Beirut’s port, which killed more than 160 people and injured 6,000 more, demolished entire neighbourhoods of Lebanon’s capital in seconds.
Container lines diverted ships to Lebanon’s smaller port of Tripoli to keep vital supply lines running.
“We are glad to advise that the container terminal suffered only minor damage and it has restarted operations,” German container line Hapag Lloyd (HLAG.DE) said in a note to customers on Tuesday, adding that its first ship to call at Beirut since the disaster is due to dock on Aug. 14.
“Alongside our service reinstatement, we are also reopening booking acceptance for cargo to and from Beirut,” the company said, adding that it was still evaluating the extent of damage to its containers that were in the port at the time of the blast.
Hapag Lloyd’s office in Beirut had been completely destroyed but staff were unharmed.
Lebanon, which imports almost everything it uses, relies on container ships to bring in items ranging from refrigerated food cargoes to clothing and other consumer goods.
Beirut’s container port has an annual average capacity of just over 1 million TEUs (20 foot equivalent units), compared with Tripoli’s 400,000 TEUs, which could be enlarged to 600,000 TEUs and a maximum of 750,000 TEUs if more cranes are installed, shipping data shows.
French container line CMA CGM said separately on Tuesday it was fully operational again in Beirut, adding that its first container vessel had discharged in the port on Monday.
“The operation was very smooth. The container vessels commercial operations are resuming normally since the 10th of August at Beirut port,” CMA said in a statement.
“Ships were temporarily diverted to Tripoli where a logistics hub has been established, as well as to other ports in the region.”
CMA said last week that one of its Beirut staff who had been missing after the explosion had died. "
Container lines resume calls to Beirut as terminal restarts operations - Reuters