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    let's take a moment to shed a tear for the cops....actually, hold on....they're already doing it for themselves...

    officer karen had to wait for her mcmuffin ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    Rhetoric - you sound just like a politician - "once I'm elected I'm going to educate people on the actual issues, and, I'll dissuade them from reacting negatively"

    What a crock of shit.
    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    Well, all things considered. There is an opinion, agreed upon by many, that the police forces exhibit biased and prejudicial force upon a certain segment, or segments, of the population.

    The protests are making this opinion known to the greater population.

    So, it only follows that the politicians will either accept the opinion and act upon the opinion or get voted out and join the unemployment line.

    So, protestors, hit the polls and vote according to your opinion. You have identified a problem – Go Fix It.
    I'll chalk that up to a chronic irony deficiency.

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    I was doing some frequency calculations on the data. As previously noted, there are 1000 police killings of civilians in the USA every year 50% of which are white and 25% black.

    That means that in an average week 5 black people are killed by the police (and 10 white people) so the fact that a black person was killed by the police 3 weeks ago in Minneapolis is not really news.

    The USA is a gun carrying society. Most modern societies who delegate violence to the state also disarm their citizens. But the USA does not. Frequent civilian deaths are the policing collateral damage you pay if gun carrying is what you democratically want, and some of those deaths will be black.

    The debate that needs to be had is about disarming US civilians if police killings are to be reduced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    officer karen had to wait for her mcmuffin ...
    Were you adding some BLM mayonnaise to that Muffin, by any chance Ray?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper
    I was doing some frequency calculations on the data
    Try a new calculator, yours appears to be broken.

    Quote Originally Posted by Looper
    The debate that needs to be had is about disarming US civilians if police killings are to be reduced.
    Man who doesn't suffer racism wants to reframe the debate into something other than racism.

    Shocking.


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    Mark Cuban told CNBC on Wednesday that white Americans “need to speak up” and call out racism when they see it.
    “We, as white people, all know people who are racist,” Cuban said. “When we see people act that way, we have to step in and say something.”
    Cuban said white people find conversations about race difficult and uncomfortable, but that’s not a reason to shy away from them.

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    Oh noes! The TD wokester clan is circling.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    civilian deaths are the policing collateral damage you pay if gun carrying is what you democratically want, and some of those deaths will be black.
    I was going to ask why you keep ignoring that the police are disproportionately executing unarmed black men, then I realised that you're a feeble-minded racist cretin, so I won't bother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I was going to ask why you keep ignoring that the police are disproportionately executing unarmed black men, then I realised that you're a feeble-minded racist cretin, so I won't bother.
    Possibility 1: the US police are racist and enjoy executing black men

    Possibility 2. the US police are exercising the force necessary to police dangerous situations in a dangerous gun carrying society where blacks carry out 50% of the murders despite only being 13% of the population (for socioeconomic reasons that are not their fault as a group) and also making mistakes with excessive force sometimes.

    Lets spin the TeakDOOR wheel of fortune and find out which of these possibilities is true because, just like everybody else, I don't know for sure.

    But if I were to bet my own money I would bet that the truth is closer to 2 than to 1

    I just don't believe that the average western person is dangerously racist these days. And I think the majority of cops are average people.

    The only thing I know for sure is that being a cop in the paradoxically gun-carrying wild-west but also politically-correct and politically-scrutinised USA must be a very stressful and difficult job.
    Last edited by Looper; 17-06-2020 at 11:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    How do you solve problems in the UK, Italy, Germany, Oz, NZ, or, do those Paradise on Earth locations have no problems?
    Italy ?
    Corridors of the Vatican, and Mafia related politicians.

    Only first world country, who could compete with the US in having the topspot regarding Farce Democrazy.

    Berlusconi or Trump ?

    Trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    Possibility 1: the US police are racist and enjoy executing black men
    Unarmed black men.

    Yes, it seems they do.

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    And the reason that people are raging against the institution rather than the individuals is because they keep lying about it to protect them.

    New video released on Monday shows a police officer using a neck restraint on Manuel Ellis, in the crucial moments leading up to the African American man’s death in Tacoma, Washington.

    The silent video, taken by a man on 3 March in a car directly across the street from the scene,appears to show Ellis in a chokehold, struggling on the ground, when a second officer uses a Taser on him. Ellis is then turned on to his stomach, and at least one officer’s knee is put on his neck or back.

    “The level of force that the officers used was remarkable,” said James Bible, the lawyer for Ellis’s family. “And there’s nothing that suggests that any portion of what they did was OK at all, including approaching him in any way.”


    Bible said the man who shot the 59-second video just happened to be driving by the scene, and started recording about 35 seconds to a minute after pulling over “because it was such a shocking event”.

    The footage contradicts accounts from the Pierce county sheriff’s office that said the officers did not put Ellis in a chokehold and no Tasers were used
    Manuel Ellis: new video appears to show officer using chokehold on black man | US news | The Guardian
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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    officer karen had to wait for her mcmuffin ...
    And she has a gun . . . and is allowed to use it

    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Man who doesn't suffer racism wants to reframe the debate into something other than racism.
    Certainly seems so . . . after all, 'what have the black people to complain about, they're better off than back in Africa . . . amIright!!!! Whites actually did them a favour and now they're complaining . . . some people . . . sheesh'

    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Italy ?
    Well, even in Italy people aren't gunned down by the thousands each year

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    let's take a moment to shed a tear for the cops....actually, hold on....they're already doing it for themselves...

    officer karen had to wait for her mcmuffin ...

    The video is embarrassing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper
    Possibility 1: the US police are racist and enjoy executing black men

    Possibility 2. the US police are exercising the force necessary to police dangerous situations in a dangerous gun carrying society where blacks carry out 50% of the murders despite only being 13% of the population (for socioeconomic reasons that are not their fault as a group) and also making mistakes with excessive force sometimes.

    Lets spin the TeakDOOR wheel of fortune and find out which of these possibilities is true because, just like everybody else, I don't know for sure.

    But if I were to bet my own money I would bet that the truth is closer to 2 than to 1

    I just don't believe that the average western person is dangerously racist these days. And I think the majority of cops are average people.

    The only thing I know for sure is that being a cop in the paradoxically gun-carrying wild-west but also politically-correct and politically-scrutinised USA must be a very stressful and difficult job.
    Looper On:

    *Lynchings*

    Well White people hang themselves too, the real issue here is rope needs to be banned...

    *The Tulsa Massacre*

    White people died too... Did those Blacks have all the correct building permits?! That needs to be investigated.

    *Rosa Parks*

    If they made the back of buses more comfortable that would solve it, that's the real issue here, uncomfortable buses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin
    Oh noes! The TD wokester clan is circling.
    I find it quite telling when people pejoratively dismiss those who think racism is a bit shit as 'woke' etc.

    It doesn't tell anything good.

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    ...^^like Bowie, Looper loves the weeds: divert, distract and deflect...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat
    like Bowie, Looper loves the weeds: divert, distract and deflect...
    They both appear to think they are actually being generous in allowing the issue to be discussed in the arbitrary and artificially narrow framework that they'll allow.

    Which is a bit dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    They both appear to think they are actually being generous in allowing the issue to be discussed in the arbitrary and artificially narrow framework that they'll allow.

    Which is a bit dumb.
    A lot dumb, actually.

    But you know that, I think you're just being generous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW
    But you know that, I think you're just being generous.
    It's the eternal optimist in me.

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    What do you say we get back on Topic, eh?

    As the mutt pack talks about their arch enemies, you know the posters who don't share the Bad Amerika, Bad, Bad Amerika view, ignoring the threads topic.

    Well, back to the on topic post of SKkin

    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    The BLM narrative has collided with the Covid-19 narrative, now what?
    One month it's bad to protest against lockdowns, next month everyone must get out and protest for BLM. Fuck the Covid.
    What a mockingbird media shitshow...
    Yea, kind of boggles the mind don't it. The big hubbub about Covid killing off the blacks and hispanics as disproportional rates, thousands or tens of thousands in a few short months.

    Yet, just how many have died by police brutality over how many years? Yup, f*** social distancing, but, wear the face masks, a major benefit in disruption of identifying looters and vandals.

    Bad cops, good flatscreens

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    ...^divert, distract and deflect...

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    when all else fails...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie
    As the mutt pack talks about their arch enemies, you know the posters who don't share the Bad Amerika, Bad, Bad Amerika view, ignoring the threads topic.
    You really are quite the thin-skinned hypocrite.

    Perhaps your difficulty in understanding the issues is related to this. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    go, go Gup - like felix the cat, reaching into his bag of tricks, ahh, here we go - name calling

    clever, yes, very clever there Gup

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