let's take a moment to shed a tear for the cops....actually, hold on....they're already doing it for themselves...
officer karen had to wait for her mcmuffin ...
let's take a moment to shed a tear for the cops....actually, hold on....they're already doing it for themselves...
officer karen had to wait for her mcmuffin ...
I was doing some frequency calculations on the data. As previously noted, there are 1000 police killings of civilians in the USA every year 50% of which are white and 25% black.
That means that in an average week 5 black people are killed by the police (and 10 white people) so the fact that a black person was killed by the police 3 weeks ago in Minneapolis is not really news.
The USA is a gun carrying society. Most modern societies who delegate violence to the state also disarm their citizens. But the USA does not. Frequent civilian deaths are the policing collateral damage you pay if gun carrying is what you democratically want, and some of those deaths will be black.
The debate that needs to be had is about disarming US civilians if police killings are to be reduced.
Try a new calculator, yours appears to be broken.Originally Posted by Looper
Man who doesn't suffer racism wants to reframe the debate into something other than racism.Originally Posted by Looper
Shocking.
Mark Cuban told CNBC on Wednesday that white Americans “need to speak up” and call out racism when they see it.
“We, as white people, all know people who are racist,” Cuban said. “When we see people act that way, we have to step in and say something.”
Cuban said white people find conversations about race difficult and uncomfortable, but that’s not a reason to shy away from them.
Oh noes! The TD wokester clan is circling.
Possibility 1: the US police are racist and enjoy executing black men
Possibility 2. the US police are exercising the force necessary to police dangerous situations in a dangerous gun carrying society where blacks carry out 50% of the murders despite only being 13% of the population (for socioeconomic reasons that are not their fault as a group) and also making mistakes with excessive force sometimes.
Lets spin the TeakDOOR wheel of fortune and find out which of these possibilities is true because, just like everybody else, I don't know for sure.
But if I were to bet my own money I would bet that the truth is closer to 2 than to 1
I just don't believe that the average western person is dangerously racist these days. And I think the majority of cops are average people.
The only thing I know for sure is that being a cop in the paradoxically gun-carrying wild-west but also politically-correct and politically-scrutinised USA must be a very stressful and difficult job.
Last edited by Looper; 17-06-2020 at 11:53 PM.
And the reason that people are raging against the institution rather than the individuals is because they keep lying about it to protect them.
Manuel Ellis: new video appears to show officer using chokehold on black man | US news | The GuardianNew video released on Monday shows a police officer using a neck restraint on Manuel Ellis, in the crucial moments leading up to the African American man’s death in Tacoma, Washington.
The silent video, taken by a man on 3 March in a car directly across the street from the scene,appears to show Ellis in a chokehold, struggling on the ground, when a second officer uses a Taser on him. Ellis is then turned on to his stomach, and at least one officer’s knee is put on his neck or back.
“The level of force that the officers used was remarkable,” said James Bible, the lawyer for Ellis’s family. “And there’s nothing that suggests that any portion of what they did was OK at all, including approaching him in any way.”
Bible said the man who shot the 59-second video just happened to be driving by the scene, and started recording about 35 seconds to a minute after pulling over “because it was such a shocking event”.
The footage contradicts accounts from the Pierce county sheriff’s office that said the officers did not put Ellis in a chokehold and no Tasers were used
Last edited by harrybarracuda; 18-06-2020 at 11:06 AM.
And she has a gun . . . and is allowed to use it
Certainly seems so . . . after all, 'what have the black people to complain about, they're better off than back in Africa . . . amIright!!!! Whites actually did them a favour and now they're complaining . . . some people . . . sheesh'
Well, even in Italy people aren't gunned down by the thousands each year
Looper On:Originally Posted by Looper
*Lynchings*
Well White people hang themselves too, the real issue here is rope needs to be banned...
*The Tulsa Massacre*
White people died too... Did those Blacks have all the correct building permits?! That needs to be investigated.
*Rosa Parks*
If they made the back of buses more comfortable that would solve it, that's the real issue here, uncomfortable buses.
I find it quite telling when people pejoratively dismiss those who think racism is a bit shit as 'woke' etc.Originally Posted by SKkin
It doesn't tell anything good.
...^^like Bowie, Looper loves the weeds: divert, distract and deflect...
They both appear to think they are actually being generous in allowing the issue to be discussed in the arbitrary and artificially narrow framework that they'll allow.Originally Posted by tomcat
Which is a bit dumb.
It's the eternal optimist in me.Originally Posted by TheRealKW
What do you say we get back on Topic, eh?
As the mutt pack talks about their arch enemies, you know the posters who don't share the Bad Amerika, Bad, Bad Amerika view, ignoring the threads topic.
Well, back to the on topic post of SKkin
Yea, kind of boggles the mind don't it. The big hubbub about Covid killing off the blacks and hispanics as disproportional rates, thousands or tens of thousands in a few short months.
Yet, just how many have died by police brutality over how many years? Yup, f*** social distancing, but, wear the face masks, a major benefit in disruption of identifying looters and vandals.
Bad cops, good flatscreens
when all else fails...
You really are quite the thin-skinned hypocrite.Originally Posted by bowie
Perhaps your difficulty in understanding the issues is related to this. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
go, go Gup - like felix the cat, reaching into his bag of tricks, ahh, here we go - name calling
clever, yes, very clever there Gup
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