Interesting take on the topic by a Canadian tech reviewer.
Nothing wrong with a liquid lunch.
So are you trying to say that the US does not work or even found tech companies that they use for their devious insidious agenda? Really? I knew that harry is a brainless CNN bot, but I always credited you has having some smarts. Say it ain't so!
So what you're saying is the Chinese are now doing that. ( You said they're only doing what the Americans have done.)
So you admit they are spying with Huawei.
Well in that case don't you think other countries should have the right to reject them or should they be obliged to accept the equipment despite the risks for fear of appearing racist?
“If we stop testing right now we’d have very few cases, if any.” Donald J Trump.
au contraire, it's because idiots keep patching their OS with new flaws, some implanted by mistakes or willingly by "Chinese spies", that we have all this
Windows source code has been compromised for years, and idiots like Harry think we can be saved with a simple Windows Update
You're either illiterate or just terminally stupid.
Again: The chinky government and chinky industry work together to steal intellectual property and rip off everything they can get their grubby chinky hands on.
The US has things called Patent laws. If someone did that in the US they'd be facing a typically overblown gazillion dollar lawsuit.
That's the main reason people should avoid the chinkies like the plague.
Last edited by harrybarracuda; 01-12-2018 at 12:51 PM.
You all seem to be under the illusion the western governments do not work for the benefit of western companies and vice versa. Unbelievable.
But you may have not read another story.
BT to reject Huawei 5G network bids
By Angus McNeice | China Daily UK | Updated: 2018-12-06 01:01
"British network provider BT has confirmed it will not consider bids from Chinese telecommunications company Huawei for 5G network contracts.
The decision comes after UK security officials and those in other nations have placed increasing pressure on network providers to review their dealings with Chinese telecommunications companies.
"Huawei have not been included in vendor selection for our 5G core," a BT spokesperson said. "Huawei remains an important equipment provider outside the core network, and a valued innovation partner."
5G refers to the fifth generation of mobile networks which will be faster and have greater capacity than previous iterations. 5G rollout in the UK is rumored to begin in late 2019.
Huawei said it will continue to collaborate with BT despite being left out of the 5G vendor process.
"Huawei has been working with BT for almost 15 years," a Huawei spokesperson said. "Working together, we have already completed a number of successful 5G trials across different sites in London, and we will continue to work with BT in the 5G era."
BT also confirmed that it is in the process of removing Huawei components from core parts of its 4G network, though it will keep less significant equipment supplied by the Chinese company.
BT said the removal of hardware aligns with company policy to keep Huawei on the margins of its 4G infrastructure in the UK.
On Monday, Alex Younger, the head of the UK Secret Intelligence Service - otherwise known as MI6 - said the government should question Huawei's involvement in Britain's 5G rollout.
"We need to decide the extent to which we are going to be comfortable with Chinese ownership of these technologies and these platforms in an environment where some of our allies have taken quite a definite position," Younger said from an event in Scotland.
Australia blocked Huawei and fellow Chinese telecoms company ZTE from providing 5G equipment in August and New Zealand banned Huawei in November.
"This is an extremely disappointing result for consumers," a Huawei Australia spokesperson said. "Huawei is a world leader in 5G and has safely and securely delivered wireless technology in Australia for close to 15 years."
Huawei has been effectively banned from the United States since 2012 when a congressional probe raised national security concerns.
UK security officials voiced unease over Huawei's presence in UK network infrastructure in a July report.
A month prior to the report, BT had announced a new partnership with Huawei to explore the development of 5G at BT's labs in Ipswich and other locations around the UK.
Since 2012, Huawei has invested or procured 2 billion pounds ($2.55 billion) in the UK, where the company employs 1,500 people. In February, Huawei announced it planned to spend a further 3 billion pounds on British technology and services during the next five years.
Huawei plays a key role in the "last mile" technology that delivers superfast broadband from the pavement to some 20 million homes across the UK.
After setting up its first UK offices in 2003, Huawei clinched a supplier deal with BT in 2005, to roll out the latter's 21st Century Network data network program. Huawei later supplied components for BT's national rollout of fiber optic broadband.
Huawei equipment was also used to build a 4G network in the UK launched by British mobile network operator EE in 2012. In 2006, BT pledged to not use Huawei equipment in parts of its core 4G network infrastructure, and this pledge was therefore undermined when the company acquired EE in 2016.
"In 2016, following the acquisition of EE, we began a process to remove Huawei equipment from the core of our 3G and 4G networks," a BT spokesperson said. The completed removal of hardware is expected in 18 months time, BT said.
BT and Huawei's relationship has been under the scrutiny of UK security services for some time. Parliament's Intelligence and Security Committee launched an investigation into the two companies' dealings in 2012.
In 2010 at the request of the UK government, Huawei established the Huawei Cyber Security Evaluation Centre, or HCSEC, aimed at mitigating any perceived risks to critical national infrastructure. The HCSEC is monitored by a government oversight board that includes officials from the UK National Cyber Security Center.
In July this year, the oversight board said it could provide "only limited assurance" that all risks to national security from Huawei's involvement in UK networks have been sufficiently mitigated.
In response, a Huawei spokesman ceded there are "some areas for improvement" and said the company would "continue to actively improve our engineering processes and risk management systems".
In April, the National Cyber Security Centre issued a separate warning to UK network companies concerning ZTE. It said that using ZTE equipment "would present risk to UK national security that could not be mitigated effectively or practicably"
BT to reject Huawei 5G network bids - Chinadaily.com.cn
I'm sure all these concerned agencies will supply objective and transparent risk analysis reports outlining all the "concerns" they might have on each and every one of the possible suppliers.
Last edited by OhOh; 06-12-2018 at 07:58 PM.
A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.
Well done. Chuck those chinky spies off the procurement list.
what I don't understand is we knew that from the beginning, so why did BT and other Europeans TELCOs bothered buying equipment from them, just because they were dirt cheap
anyway doesn't matter, because Chinese are implanting "compromised" chips on European manufacturer equipment, so the spying will continue no matter what
You think your Apple iPhones doesn't have compromised chips when 99% of the parts are sourced in China and assembled there?
And it's the law that privately owned enterprises assist the chinkies in their spying endeavours.
^^ I shudder to think of some of the porn they would find on your phone. They probably had to manufacture special filters to protect the local evaluators.
Last edited by OhOh; 07-12-2018 at 09:29 PM.
I've told you before, don't use big words unless you've looked them up in the dictionary first.Even the ex-head of GCHQ was exacerbated
Huawei is a private company. However there are fears it and other Chinese manufacturers can be compelled by the Chinese security services to help with intelligence gathering. The national intelligence law passed this year requires all organisations and citizens to assist the country’s spy agencies
Note the last 5 words.
https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...se-phone-maker
"exacerbate verb [ T ]
uk /ɪɡˈzæs.ə.beɪt/ us /ɪɡˈzæs.ɚ.beɪt/
to make something that is already badevenworse:
This attack will exacerbate the already tense relations between the two communities."
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...ish/exacerbate
Possibly the use of an English dictionary site may help your understanding of a simple English sentence.I await the TD "resident English academic" to pronounce sentence or to dismiss the accusation and the award of appropriate damages .
An apology or a sneer is in order.
It seems that there is a difference.
The US companies are private companies that make huge profits then they align themselves with government through revolving doors, senate corruption, etc, so that they have advantage in the marketplace; cronyism. There's also government/military contracts that align US companies directly with US research/government/defence needs.
The Chinese companies were set up by the Chinese leadership elite (with a thin veneer of 'private corporation') to profit themselves and their ideological goals from the start. Government research/defence/other needs are always paramount with the Chinese corporations because they were set up to be so from the start.
There are certainly similarities, but there are differences too. We are talking about a communist state here. On the other side, we are talking about a capitalist country with cronyism that makes it resemble a communist state at times.
Cycling should be banned!!!
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