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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    We are proposing to the Indian government that we are ready to sign a ‘no-back-door’ agreement.
    One wonders why any government would refuse such an offer.

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    We encourage other OEMs (original equipment manufacturers) also to sign this kind of agreement with the government and telecom operators,”
    One wonders how any vendor would be able to refuse to offer such an agreement and remain on the vendor list.

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    Telcos have been putting backdoors on their software since the beginning of time, always been a strategic asset to 'monitor' information

    O2, Britih Telecom, France Telecom are regularly used as surrogates for intelligence gathering and spying activities

    and we thought the Chinese and Russians were bad, we are doing exactly the same thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    According to Indian daily Mint, Huawei’s CEO said ironically: “We should appreciate Donald Trump and the US government for making Huawei too popular.”
    The US fight with Huawei seems to result in a real boost for Huwei market: who would care for the few millions customers in US, EU, when getting the billions in Asia, Africa, also South America?

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    Sometimes I really wonder about you guys. And I figure you're wondering the same about me.

    On a side note I used a Howie, Yes, I cant spell, device to connect to the interim net on our last escapade. The language seemed to change, yes, change on it's own. Needless to say I wasn't about to do any online banking.

    Just saying. ....


    the fishes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishlocker View Post
    device to connect to the interim net on our last escapade
    Some phones only work on different mhz wavelengths. Many have multiple wavelengths chips fitted.

    Ensure you purchase a phone which has wavelengths chips support for your intended use/network offerings.

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    Another incident which may or may not be linked with the phone company:

    China blocks all Canadian meat imports as trade war with US heats up

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    Snips:

    "China has suspended all imports of meat from Canada, saying it found traces of illegal feed and demanding action."

    The move comes amid a trade war with the US and extradition hearings for an arrested Huawei executive.

    “In order to protect the safety of Chinese consumers, China has taken urgent preventive measures and requested the Canadian government to suspend the issuance of certificates for meat exported to China,” the Chinese embassy in Ottawa said in a statement on Tuesday, adding that a probe of meat imports has revealed as many as 1888 “counterfeit” veterinary health certificates and accusing Canadian authorities of “obvious safety loopholes.”

    "However, Agriculture Minister Marie-Claude Bibeau confirmed that the Canadian Food and Inspection Agency (CFIA) found “inauthentic export certificates” and was working closely with both the meat industry and Chinese officials to address the problem."

    https://www.rt.com/business/462682-c...canadian-meat/
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    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    The US fight with Huawei seems to result in a real boost for Huwei market: who would care for the few millions customers in US, EU, when getting the billions in Asia, Africa, also South America?
    Obviously Huawei do otherwise they would just walk away from the market. Not sure how falling sales and restricted access to software equates to a real market boost, but I'm sure RT or the China daily will be able to answer that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    “In order to protect the safety of Chinese consumers, China has taken urgent preventive measures and requested the Canadian government to suspend the issuance of certificates for meat exported to China,” the Chinese embassy in Ottawa said in a statement on Tuesday, adding that a probe of meat imports has revealed as many as 1888 “counterfeit” veterinary health certificates and accusing Canadian authorities of “obvious safety loopholes.”

    "However, Agriculture Minister Marie-Claude Bibeau confirmed that the Canadian Food and Inspection Agency (CFIA) found “inauthentic export certificates” and was working closely with both the meat industry and Chinese officials to address the problem."
    What's the betting it's chinkies sending dodgy meat back home with fake paperwork?

    Fucking odds-on no doubt.


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    Thinking about it, with the chinkies having to slaughter millions of pigs, you'd have thought they'd want to keep importing other countries' pork both to satisfy the local market and also to give them something to allow them to blend in their tainted meat to export.

    Schoolboy error to try and get that chinky Huawei crook off the hook. She must have some secrets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    Obviously Huawei do otherwise they would just walk away from the market. Not sure how falling sales and restricted access to software equates to a real market boost, but I'm sure RT or the China daily will be able to answer that one.
    I do not know how "China daily but RT was able to answer that":

    Axing America’s Android: Huawei files to trademark own mobile operating system worldwide
    Published time: 14 Jun, 2019

    Chinese technology giant Huawei is in the process of launching its “Hongmeng” operating system (OS) to replace Google’s Android OS, the firm’s vice president of public affairs and communications Andrew Williamson, has said.
    https://www.rt.com/business/462625-h...ess-agreement/


    Huawei looks to Russian technology to replace Google’s Android on its smartphones
    Published time: 11 Jun, 2019



    After Google cut Huawei off its Android operating system, the Chinese telecom giant is seeking alternatives to keep its smartphones working. A viable option has reportedly been found in Russia.
    https://www.rt.com/business/461583-h...droid-replace/


    Huawei’s own operating system could be ready this year if cut off from US tech, top exec says



    Chinese technology giant Huawei could introduce its own operating system, for smartphones and laptops, this year if the company is banned from using Google and Microsoft software due to pressure from Washington.
    https://www.rt.com/business/460071-h...rating-system/

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    Is there any technology developed in the last 100 years that the Russians or Chinese have that they didnt copy buy or steal from the west. Just a question.

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    Chinese spyphones with Russian spyware.


    I feel safer already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    Just a question.
    Just an answer.

    If you look at historic scientific "discovery" / "innovation" , you will find most of it is continued on from previous work. Either by themselves or others. Very few "Eureka" moments.

    The scientific community publish literature all the time on their discoveries, some are patented, some are considered "sensitive" in need of protection from foreign eyes/competitors and disappear, some require forgotten foreign language skills.

    Take a look at a book about rocket engine fuel development in the last hundred years as suggested by Takeovers in his Space News thread, here on TD. People and companies worked together, in competition and all had moments and all had disappointments. Some made fortunes, some gained reverence from their peers and others blew themselves up.

    I'm sure the Germans tried and succeeded to

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    copy buy or steal from
    the British steel makers in the 18/19th century. RSFH

    I'm sure the "English" tried and succeeded to

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    copy buy or steal from
    the Syrian sword makers in the xxth century. RSFH

    The list starts at the beginning of time and continues to this day.



    Blame it on Stanley Kubrick's bloody African Pan troglodytes,

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    who took a risk and touched an obelisk.



    If you want, somebody else, to be responsible.

    To single out by highlighting only one or two counties is childish, IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    Is there any technology developed in the last 100 years that the Russians or Chinese have that they didnt copy buy or steal from the west. Just a question.
    I doubt it.

    I mean it's all the nips did after WWII, that's why they became so successful.

    Their first attempts at nicking Western car designs were a big fucking joke, but look at them now, gave them a big head start.

    Mind you they had the resources and money to work on their industries, as they weren't allowed to piss money away rebuilding their military.

    But for the chinkies it's their Number One national sport now.

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    No big fucking surprises there then.

    WASHINGTON — Telecommunications gear made by China’s Huawei Technologies Co. is far more likely to contain flaws that could be leveraged by hackers for malicious use than equipment from rival companies, according to new research by cybersecurity experts that top U.S. officials said appeared credible.
    Over half of the nearly 10,000 firmware images encoded into more than 500 variations of enterprise network-equipment devices tested by the researchers contained at least one such exploitable vulnerability, the researchers found. Firmware is the software that powers the hardware components of a computer.
    The tests were compiled in a new report that has been submitted in recent weeks to senior officials in multiple government agencies in the U.S. and the U.K., as well as to lawmakers. The report is notable both for its findings and because it is circulating widely among Trump administration officials who said it further validated their policy decisions toward Huawei.
    “This report supports our assessment that since 2009, Huawei has maintained covert access to some of the systems it has installed for international customers,” said a White House official who reviewed the findings. “Huawei does not disclose this covert access to customers nor local governments. This covert access enables Huawei to record information and modify databases on those local systems.”

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/huawei-equipment-is-more-vulnerable-to-hackers-experts-say-2019-06-25

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    And no big fucking surprises there either.

    Hackers believed to have ties to China’s government infiltrated the systems of at least 10 telecommunications companies around the globe, swiping swaths of data on the companies and targeted individuals, according to an investigation by cybersecurity firm Cybereason.

    Cybereason identified numerous global carriers believed to have been compromised by the scheme, which in at least one incident “targeted 20 military officials, dissidents, spies and law enforcement—all believed to be tied to China—and spanned Asia, Europe, Africa and the Middle East,” the Wall Street Journal wrote.

    The hackers reportedly swiped information including location data, billing information, text message records, and call detail records (CDRs). The compromised information did not include the recordings of calls or text of messages, but could nonetheless paint an intimate picture of a person’s life, indicating who they were in contact with and when, according to Cybereason.

    Cybereason believes that the attack bears close resemblances to prior attacks by APT 10, a hacking ground linked to China’s government.


    “We’ve concluded with a high level of certainty that the threat actor is affiliated with China and is likely state sponsored,” Cybereason wrote in its report summary. “The tools and techniques used throughout these attacks are consistent with several Chinese threat actors, specifically with APT10, a threat actor believed to operate on behalf of the Chinese Ministry of State Security (MSS).”

    https://gizmodo.com/at-least-10-global-telecom-carriers-hacked-in-suspected-1835830831
    Chinky parasites at it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plan B View Post
    Chinese spyphones with Russian spyware.


    I feel safer already.
    Your processor and RAM will be constantly hitting 100% utilisation while they fight over your personal data.


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    Huawei in Israel? Mai mee panhaa...

    Huawei enters Israel’s solar power market, hours after quitting US

    As Chinese telecom giant announces new move, deputy US energy secretary, in Israel, warns that data collected off solar panels could be used by Chinese ‘for other things’

    Chinese telecom giant Huawei, known in Israel for its competitively priced smartphones, is entering the Israeli solar power market to sell inverters, which help to convert solar power into energy for the electricity grid.

    A company announcement in Israel on Wednesday came just hours after Huawei shut down its solar energy business in the US, amidst ongoing tensions between Washington and Beijing.

    A US deputy secretary for energy, in Tel Aviv for a cyber conference, Cyber Week, warned Wednesday that “the data that is collected off of those solar panels could be used to determine other things…we would just urge caution.”

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    Dan Brouillette, of the US Department of Energy, told reporters that the solar panel industry was “innocent,” but that investments had to be “carefully considered and appropriately safeguarded.”

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    https://www.timesofisrael.com/huawei...r-quitting-us/

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    Et tu, Brute?

    US official hints at excluding Seoul from intel on North Korea over Huawei

    Washington may stop sharing intelligence on North Korea with Seoul if it refuses to toe the US line and bar China’s Huawei from installing its communications equipment in South Korea.

    South Korea is one of many nations pressured by the US to join its crusade against the Chinese telecom giant. Seoul is caught between a rock and a hard place – facing the ire of either its main security provider that hosts thousands of troops on its territory or it main trade partner. Washington is apparently playing its trump card, hinting that having Huawei equipment may prevent South Korea from receiving vital intelligence on North Korea, with which the South technically is still at war.

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    https://www.rt.com/news/462702-korea...haring-huawei/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    A US deputy secretary for energy, in Tel Aviv for a cyber conference, Cyber Week, warned Wednesday that “the data that is collected off of those solar panels could be used to determine other things…we would just urge caution.”
    That statement is just sooo ̶r̶i̶d̶i̶c̶u̶l̶ harryesque

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    "The United States and China agreed on Saturday to restart trade talks after President Donald Trump offered concessions including no new tariffs and an easing of restrictions on tech company Huawei in order to reduce tensions with Beijing."

    It's all about security, innit Harry? You tool!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    "The United States and China agreed on Saturday to restart trade talks after President Donald Trump offered concessions including no new tariffs and an easing of restrictions on tech company Huawei in order to reduce tensions with Beijing."

    It's all about security, innit Harry? You tool!
    Maybe you should try reading what he said you dumb shit.

    He's agreed that US companies can sell some *non-sensitive* tech to Huawei.

    Nothing about buying it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    That statement is just sooo ̶r̶i̶d̶i̶c̶u̶l̶ harryesque
    And again, your lack of ability to comprehend what you are reading demonstrates that you are a dumb shit.

    Do you even understand how an attacker could use information about Israel's power distribution network?

    Do you even know what a Huawei Solar Inverter does and what capabilities it has?

    I'd STFU until you do a bit of slow reading and stop making yourself look like an arse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    That statement is just sooo ̶r̶i̶d̶i̶c̶u̶l̶ harryesque

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    Chinky spies, can't help themselves.

    China Is Installing Android Malware on Tourists’ Phones


    China has famously invasive security and surveillance operations, but activists report at least one region of the country has gotten even more Orwellian. Multiple news agencies have joined forces to analyze a new piece of
    malware, which Chinese border agents are forcing tourists to install on their phones. The software copies messaging, contacts, and searches phones for thousands of different documents.

    https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/294389-china-is-installing-android-malware-on-tourists-phones

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