Thread: US warning allies to ditch Huawei, Chinese "spying" equipment

Originally Posted by OhOh

One wonders which vendors "Britain" considers to be "low risk" and why?

One wonders if these cabinet nitwits have a fucking clue what they're talking about. The answer being probably "No".

Which is why the spooks are pissed off with them for not listening and now have to go back and drum into them that they need to STFU and take expert advice.

I've decided not to buy a huawei phone. The Chinese might read my secret TD comments.

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

I've decided not to buy a huawei phone. The Chinese might read my secret TD comments.

"Might"?

^^
Your file is one of their favourites . Second only to 'arrys.

Originally Posted by OhOh

^^
Your file is one of their favourites . Second only to 'arrys.

They don't have favourites, they mop up everything.

Leeches.

what a surprise, a UK government official being a traitor

Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson sacked over Huawei leak
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48126974

avin Williamson has been sacked as defence secretary following an inquiry into the leak of information from the National Security Council.

Downing Street said the PM had "lost confidence in his ability to serve" and Penny Mordaunt will take on the role.

The inquiry followed reports over a plan to allow Huawei limited access to help build the UK's new 5G network.

Mr Williamson, who has been defence secretary since 2017, continues to deny leaking the information.

Originally Posted by SeventhSoul

Huawei, OPPO and Xiaomi make cheapish (affordable) phones for the masses, with good specs. Viets love them, guess because of the pricing. Told my Vietnamese student her Huawei mobby was a Chinese brand and China-made. She was mortified. Looked like she was going to smash it against the wall.

That said I'd still go with an ASUS Zenfone, but struggling to find them in-store. Can be bought on Lazada, but trying to avoid a Lazada (online) purchase. My current Zenfone 5 is going strong after 3 years, and one dunk in water (VND300k repair to the motherboard sorted everything).

Bought a power bank today for VND390k, for the visa run to Moc Bai on Thursday as the battery dies if I'm watching vids/YT/listening to music.

Other options are Samsung and ....? Nokia's quite big here, but the Chinese brands have a stranglehold on the market.

There are a ton of cheapy chinky phones out there. You just need to pick one you can flash to wipe all the malware they preinstall.

Which is not to say they don't bury some more in ROM somewhere. They are dirty spies, the chinkies.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

They are dirty spies, the chinkies.

They hide under beds, the chinkies. Make sure you check under yours daily.

Originally Posted by lom

They hide under beds, the chinkies. Make sure you check under yours daily.

I live on a secure compound. We don't let the fuckers in.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I live on a secure compound. We don't let the fuckers in.

no, you prefer stinky arabs and all those muslim fundamentalists

^^Does the probably foreign "security" have bullets in their guns?

Originally Posted by OhOh

^^Does the probably foreign "security" have bullets in their guns?

Yes, the "probably foreign security" does.

*Cough*.

Right on cue, Cisco on Wednesday patched a security vulnerability in some of its network switches that can be exploited by miscreants to commandeer the IT equipment and spy on people.

This comes immediately after panic this week over a hidden Telnet-based diagnostic interface was found in Huawei gateways. Although that vulnerability was real, irritating, and eventually removed at Vodafone's insistence, it was dubbed by some a hidden backdoor perfect for Chinese spies to exploit to snoop on Western targets.

Which, of course, comes as America continues to pressure the UK and other nations to outlaw the use of Huawei gear from 5G networks over fears Beijing would use backdoors baked into the hardware to snatch Uncle Sam's intelligence.

Well, if a non-internet-facing undocumented diagnostic Telnet daemon is reason enough to kick Huawei kit out of Western networks, surely this doozy from Cisco is enough to hoof American equipment out of British, European and other non-US infrastructure? Fair's fair, no?

US tech giant Cisco has issued a free fix for software running on its Nexus 9000 series machines that can be exploited to log in as root and hijack the device for further mischief and eavesdropping. A miscreant just needs to be able to reach the vulnerable box via IPv6. It's due to a default SSH key pair hardcoded into the software

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/05...lnerabilities/

Originally Posted by baldrick

A miscreant just needs to be able to reach the vulnerable box via IPv6.

Good luck with that.

US tech/software are littered with backdoors ...and the keys handed over to the NSA to spy on anyone they like.

Then there is this: https://www.wired.com/story/eternalb...-hacked-world/

But, of course its the "Chinkies" we have to be scared of

And no, none of this has anything to do with Apple sales being in record decline as Chinese phone markets boom or Trump's trade war with China.


Lord HawHaw will be along shortly to remind us all, that these matters of public record are to be ignored and that we should go back to sleep.

Harry is a frigging fraud, he has no fucking idea about anything security outside MS Security Bulletin

I have contacts who work with cybersecurity for government agencies, and they tell me everyone is affected, backdoors everywhere, all they can do is run forensic analysis and see where the leaks come from or where they go or who are using them, but they can't really stop anything, and the Russians and Chinese are very strong and sophisticated, and that the west is only playing catchup with them, the Pentagon and the rest of the west world have no fucking idea what's hitting them

and then you have idiots like Harry who think the world is all PC and Android phones

Originally Posted by foobar

US tech/software are littered with backdoors ...and the keys handed over to the NSA to spy on anyone they like.

Then there is this: https://www.wired.com/story/eternalb...-hacked-world/

But, of course its the "Chinkies" we have to be scared of

And no, none of this has anything to do with Apple sales being in record decline as Chinese phone markets boom or Trump's trade war with China.


Lord HawHaw will be along shortly to remind us all, that these matters of public record are to be ignored and that we should go back to sleep.

Don't be such stupid little boy. Most of the iphone is made in Chinastan anyway, you dolt.

Originally Posted by foobar

Lord HawHaw will be along shortly to remind us all, that these matters of public record are to be ignored and that we should go back to sleep.

Right on cue.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Don't be such stupid little boy. Most of the iphone is made in Chinastan anyway, you dolt.

Originally Posted by baldrick

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/05...lnerabilities/

Check out the NDS (I. E. Mosad...) involvement in Cisco... I used to work a lot with NDS, they were all ex-Mosad tech experts; in those days they were managing the UKs BskyB security; all stb communication went through them.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Check out the NDS (I. E. Mosad...) involvement in Cisco.

Cisco were never interested in NDS market, they bought it to get access to some specialist knowledge.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

I used to work a lot with NDS, they were all ex-Mosad tech experts; in those days they were managing the UKs BskyB security; all stb communication went through them.

NDS Israel had some ex-Mossad guys but they were not tech experts, they were the ones responsible for the company's general security.
Most of their tech experts (based in the Haifa R&D lab) had no connection at all with Mossad.

The British operation (Maidenhead) did not have any Israeli at all if memory serves me.
The head of security there was twice in a row recruited from Scotland Yard retiree's.

It appears some of those, calling for illegal regime change in Venezuela, are realising how vulnerable they are, if their previous position were to be pointed at themselves.

How many of their rabid, regime change peers, would join an attack on them? Given they are all publically nothing but rogue dispatchers.

The list of EU leaders whose surnames remarkably, is the same as Maduro, is extensive.


Change of tack? EU quieter on latest failed Venezuela coup attempt as Guaido’s influence wanes



"When the US announced support for Venezuela’s self-declared ‘interim president’ Juan Guaido in January, European leaders heartily backed the move — but three months later, after a second failed coup attempt, they are suddenly shy.

With US backing, Guaido attempted to launch a second uprising on Tuesday, urging his supporters to take to the streets and calling on the military to seize power from President Nicolas Maduro. While both pro and anti-government demonstrators held rallies in Caracas, the military did not defect in great numbers and the coup attempt fizzled out.

In January, European leaders instantly fell in line with US talking points on Venezuela. Germany, France and Spain issued almost identical threats to recognize Guaido unless snap elections were held within eight days. UK officials also wasted no time in voicing strong support for Guaido, with little concern for the millions of Venezuelans who support Maduro and worry about the destabilizing effects of US intervention and devastating effects of US sanctions.

This time around, however, having realized Guaido is not as powerful as they expected, Europe has not been as gung-ho in its support for him. Having initially added to the chaos by encouraging the first uprising, suddenly the EU’s foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini was calling for the “utmost restraint” in order to “avoid the loss of lives.”

Lack of courage?

Venezuelan Ambassador to the EU Claudia Salerno Caldera believes the sudden European reticence shows thatEU leaders have “begun to realize that [Guaido] was losing influence, that he was no president at all.” With that realization, they “began to give up their positions” and “change their narrative” in order to make it “more realistic” and reflect the actual situation on the ground in Venezuela, she told Russian news agency RIA Novosti.

It is likely that the EU knows that the US stance toward Venezuela is “wrong, dangerous and illegal,” but it has “not got the courage to stand up and say so,” Dr Michael Derham, senior lecturer in Spanish and Latin American Studies at Northumbria University told RT. The EU “has to be seen to not advocate coups or violence” and it is not convinced by the US ultimatum against Maduro — but at the same time, Europe will “never go against the US, even if it were to invade Venezuela,” Derham said.

Another problem for Europe is that it is divided on the Venezuela issue. Therefore the ideological posture of the EU is “more and more obsolete” and “neutralized between contradictory positions” because it has never defined “common geopolitical objectives,” geopolitical analyst Pierre-Emmanuel Thomann told RT.

Hardline European supporters of Guaido underestimated Maduro’s “capacity of resistance” as well as Russia’s determination to prevent another US-led regime change operation, Thomann said, adding that “mainstream media never show this side of the story.”

At the same time, while the US is criticizing Russia’s posture on the Venezuelan crisis and is telling Moscow to stay out of affairs in the Western Hemisphere, the US and NATO have also been meddling and supporting uprisings in Russia’s own “zone of interest” in eastern Europe for years, he said.

While some European countries (France, Germany, Spain, UK) took bold stances in favor of Guaido, apparently believing the January coup would be a success, they are now less and less in a position to renew relations with Maduro, Thomann said.

But Derham said the fact that the UK in particular will need to expand its trade with Latin American when it leaves the EU, means the “venal and hypocritical” politicians in London will be prepared to crawl back to Maduro if he retains power.

Europe’s initial decision to fall in “lock-step” with Washington on Venezuela was not surprising, journalist and political commentator John Wight told RT, describing the coup attempts as “open imperialism that you’d associate with the 19th century.”

What’s more, the US sanctions which the EU supports in addition to its own sanctions on Venezuela, have “only served to heighten the suffering of the Venezuelan people.” To add insult to injury, if the coup attempt had been successful, it is not even Guaido who would be president, Wight said. It would be US National Security Advisor John Bolton who is running the coup effort from Washington and acting like a “thug in a suit.”

Ultimately, while the EU has now realized it “backed a losing horse in Guaido,” and its reactions to the Venezuela crisis have exposed it to be “a supine bloc when it comes to Washington — and lacking any kind of moral or ethical principles.”

https://www.rt.com/news/458207-europ...coup-reaction/

Wrong thread. You drunk again.