Thread: US warning allies to ditch Huawei, Chinese "spying" equipment

Originally Posted by OhOh

It is so kind of the Chinese to publicly state and identify their outlets. Applaud their honesty and do your own due diligence.

I presume the western MSM prefer to state they are free from any, "guidance" issued to them during the after dinner port supping.

Open your own eyes wider than the Asian slit. View the whole body, not just the hairless, engorged, winking pussy between her legs.

The only explanation I can come up with is that if you actually believe the nonsense you post you're you're just a naïve simpleton.

Originally Posted by Cujo

The only explanation I can come up with is that if you actually believe the nonsense you post you're you're just a naïve simpleton.

The phrase you seek is "snivelling sycophant".

Originally Posted by OhOh

If you actually check the facts from other sources you will find the allegations you and 'arry make have no factual evidence.

But I doubt you get by the headlines printed daily from your free, open and unbiased MSM.




Here is todays for you to scan, absorb, check for accuracy and find a way to make more racist comments.


In "Serious Blow" To US, Britain Concludes Huawei Is "Manageable Risk" To 5G Rollout


"Following intense pressure from the US on its European allies to boycott the use of Huawei products in the rollout of next-generation 5G products and shut out the Chinese telecom giant from local markets, Germany was the first nation to rebuke Washington, with Handeslblatt reporting last week that the German government wanted to avoid excluding products offered by Huawei.

Now it's the UK's turn.

In the latest "serious blow" to US efforts to persuade allies to ban the Chinese supplier from high-speed telecommunications systems, the FT reported that the British government has concluded that it can "mitigate the risk from using Huawei equipment in 5G networks."

According to the report, the UK National Cyber Security Centre has determined that "there are ways to limit the risks from using Huawei in future 5G ultra-fast networks" and in doing so it is ignoring escalating US efforts to persuade countries to bar Huawei from their networks on the basis that it could help China conduct espionage or cyber sabotage.

The NSA has been sharing more information with allies and partners to underscore the risks, but as reported previously, several European countries, including the UK and Germany, have not been convinced that a ban is warranted.

The unprecedented rebuke of the US official stance would “carry great weight” with European leaders, not only because the UK has access to very sensitive US intelligence via its membership in the Five Eyes intelligence sharing network, but because it is a clear refusal to comply with implied but stern diplomatic demands by the US placed on European nations to further isolate China from its main export market.

"Other nations can make the argument that if the British are confident of mitigation against national security threats then they can also reassure their publics and the US administration that they are acting in a prudent manner in continuing to allow their telecommunications service providers to use Chinese components as long as they take the kinds of precautions recommended by the British,” the person said.


The US argues that 5G will be so fast — and have so many military applications — that the risk of using any Chinese telecoms equipment is too high. American officials have also made the case that, although there may be no evidence of nefarious activity so far, Huawei could use malign software updates to facilitate espionage

Further diluting state US demands, Robert Hannigan, former head of GCHQ, the UK signals intelligence agency, recently wrote in the FT that NCSC had “never found evidence of malicious Chinese state cyber activity through Huawei” and that any “assertions that any Chinese technology in any part of a 5G network represents an unacceptable risk are nonsense”.
The UK's determination is also perplexing in that it stands in contrast to Australia and New Zealand — also Five Eyes members — which last year banned local telecoms providers from using Huawei equipment in 5G networks.

Most importantly, it comes as Donald Trump is said to be considering issuing an executive order that would effectively bar US firms from using Huawei.
Underscoring the US position, US vice-president Mike Pence said on Saturday at the Munich Security Conference that Huawei posed a threat because of a law that requires telecom companies to share data with the Chinese government. At the same forum, Jens Stoltenberg, Nato secretary-general, told the FT that the alliance was taking concerns over Huawei “very seriously” and that several allies wanted a co-ordinated response.

“We have to look into the level of co-ordination we need to respond. We have not yet concluded as an alliance, but it shows the need to address that issue,” he said.


The UK, however, hinted that it would refuse to endorse Washington's "with us or against us line" when Alex Younger, head of MI6, the UK secret intelligence service, on Friday indicated that Britain might take a softer line on Huawei than the US, saying the issue was too complex to simply ban the company. He said it was “a more complicated issue than in or out” and countries had “a sovereign right to work through the answer to all of this”.

Meanwhile, the NCSC is contributing to a government review of UK telecoms infrastructure, due for release in the spring. "The report will probably contain recommendations on how to handle any threats of Chinese espionage posed by Huawei to 5G networks, according to one person briefed on an early draft" the FT reported, adding that the UK will probably recommend a diversity of suppliers and partial restrictions of areas of the 5G network.

“It's not inherently desirable that a piece of significant national critical infrastructure is provided by a monopoly supplier,” Younger said, however he suggested that the UK won't shut out China entirely.

Separately, other European intelligence officials are also concerned about giving Huawei access to 5G networks. But while nations like France and Germany advise caution, they are unlikely to call for an outright ban.

China, naturally, remains furious at the US, which recently submitted an extradition request for Huawei's CFO who was arrested late last year in Vancouver. Eric Xu, one of three rotating Huawei chairmen, this month criticised the US campaign to pressure countries to ban Huawei equipment, and questioned whether the US had ulterior motives. “Some say that because these countries are using Huawei gear, it makes it harder for US agencies to obtain these countries’ data,” he said throwing the espionage ball in Washington's court.


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-17/serious-blow-us-britain-concludes-huawei-manageable-risk-5g-rollout


Oh dear, according the FT, looks like a new regime target has been identified, Alex Younger, head of MI6, the UK secret intelligence service,

The devil is in the detail.

The Australian newspaper via its China correspondent today reported that NZ is getting the cold shoulder over their banning Huawei.
Plans for the only PM who can eat a apple through a picket fence,Jacinda Arden to visit China has been re-scheduled.
Also the planned 2019 China-NZ year of tourism due to be held this week in Wellington has been shelved.
China also issued 2 travel warnings for its tourists,now at 450,000 and expected to grow to 800,000 within 3 years,they have overtaken Ockers as no 1.
As NZ is the weakest member of the five eyes intelligence group, it seems its payback for the Huawai ban.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The devil is in the detail.

Scared of taking risks eh. Manageable or otherwise from one companies offerings, when all alternative suppliers have not only shown actual, factual occurrences of illegal actions, but are eager to do so for green pieces of paper/fear .

No other supplier of equipment have any similar threats? Cisco the worlds largest supplier advertise in their sales literature they obey ameristani laws which demand delivery, when required, from their governments.

Originally Posted by reddog

The Australian newspaper via its China correspondent today reported that NZ is getting the cold shoulder over their banning Huawei.

Plans for the only PM who can eat a apple through a picket fence,Jacinda Arden to visit China has been re-scheduled.

Also the planned 2019 China-NZ year of tourism due to be held this week in Wellington has been shelved.

China also issued 2 travel warnings for its tourists,now at 450,000 and expected to grow to 800,000 within 3 years,they have overtaken Ockers as no 1.

TD World News demands that links are required.

Who decided on the apple mans/womans rescheduling?

Who decided on the tourism cancellation?

NZ is a 5 eyes country, what do they expect?

Originally Posted by OhOh

Scared of taking risks eh. Manageable or otherwise from one companies offerings, when all alternative suppliers have not only shown actual, factual occurrences of illegal actions, but are eager to do so for green pieces of paper/fear .

No other supplier of equipment have any similar threats? Cisco the worlds largest supplier advertise in their sales literature they obey ameristani laws which demand delivery, when required, from their governments.

The risks are real, but the UK won't rock the boat until it has secured a trade deal with Chinastan after brexit, so that they can continue to sell Chinese-made shit with the British flag on it back to the chinkies.

^whatever helps the bankers. win/win then

Oh dear, the chinks are starting to show in the US propaganda ...no pun intended!

Any risk posed by involving the Chinese technology giant Huawei in UK telecoms projects can be managed, cyber-security chiefs have determined.

The UK's National Cyber Security Centre's decision undermines US efforts to persuade its allies to ban the firm from 5G communications networks.

"Of course we aren't ripping off our competitors, by the way here's the MateBook Pro"

How Huawei Targets Apple Trade Secrets




By Wayne M




As U.S. companies grow more concerned about efforts by Chinese firms to obtain their intellectual property, all eyes are on Huawei Technologies, which the U.S. government recently accused of stealing trade secrets. New reporting by The Information sheds light on Huawei’s tactics, which often have been aimed at one of the company’s chief competitors, Apple.

Take Huawei’s alleged efforts to copy a popular feature in Apple’s smartwatch. The Apple Watch has a heart rate sensor that works so well it has been approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. Huawei’s own smartwatch had been poorly received by users, some of whom complain about the performance of its heart rate monitor.

In November, a Huawei engineer in charge of a competing smartwatch project tracked down a supplier that helps make Apple’s heart rate sensor. The engineer arranged a meeting on the pretext of offering the supplier a lucrative manufacturing contract. But the engineer was unsuccessful when he asked for details about the Apple Watch, according to an executive at the supplier, who requested anonymity because the firm has a nondisclosure agreement with Apple.

The previously unreported incident reflects what current and former employees at Apple and its suppliers say is a pattern of dubious tactics Huawei employs to obtain technology from rivals, especially from Apple’s suppliers in China.

Huawei denied any wrongdoing. “In conducting research and development, Huawei employees must search and use publicly available information and respect third-party intellectual property per our business-conduct guidelines,” a spokesman said. He added Huawei’s spending on research and development was more than that of most its competitors. Apple didn’t respond to a request for comment.

Huawei, which recently surpassed Apple to become the world’s second-biggest smartphone maker, has been at the center of a trade fight between the U.S. and China amid accusations by U.S. authorities that Huawei steals technology.

In January, the U.S. Justice Department unsealed an indictment accusing Huawei of pilfering trade secrets from wireless carrier T-Mobile USA.

U.S. companies such as Cisco Systems and Motorola have made similar claims against Huawei in civil lawsuits. Earlier this month, Chicago-based Akhan Semiconductor, which makes durable smartphone glass, said it cooperated with a federal investigation into theft of its intellectual property by Huawei. Akhan claims Huawei used the prospect of a business relationship to acquire samples of its glass, which Huawei then took apart and studied.

The Justice Department said Huawei had a formal program that rewarded employees for stealing information, with bonuses that increased based on the confidential value of the information. Huawei employees were encouraged to post stolen information on an internal company website, and they were also given an email address where they could send the information, which was then reviewed by what was known internally as the “competition management group.”

Huawei assured employees they wouldn’t be punished for taking such action, the indictment said.

Other smartphone makers have accused each other of intellectual property theft. Most famously, Apple successfully sued Samsung for copying its products. But the accusations against Huawei suggest a more brazen and elaborate system of seeking out secret information.

To arrange the November meeting, the Huawei engineer first dangled a potential business deal with the supplier, according to messages reviewed by The Information.

“Our design is similar to Apple’s,” the engineer wrote in a text message to the executive with the supplier. “Let’s first talk generally about the cost of a prototype before we provide the schematic,” he wrote. “Sales of Huawei wearables this year are expected to hit 1 million units,” he added.

After the executive expressed reservations about making a component that was too similar to Apple’s, the Huawei engineer backpedaled. “The shape of the product won’t be the same,” the engineer said.

At one point, the Huawei engineer emailed the executive a photo of material it was considering for a heart rate sensor. “Feel free to suggest a design you already have experience with,” the engineer wrote.

The Huawei engineer attended the supplier meeting with four Huawei researchers in tow. The Huawei team spent the next hour and a half pressing the supplier for details about the Apple Watch, the executive said.

“They were trying their luck, but we wouldn’t tell them anything,” the executive said. After that, Huawei went silent.

In another incident, Huawei is suspected of copying a connector Apple developed in 2016 that made the MacBook Pro hinge thinner while still attaching the computer’s display to its logic board, according to a person familiar with the matter.

A similar component, made of 13 similar parts assembled in the same manner, showed up last year in Huawei’s MateBook Pro, which was released as a competitor to Apple’s MacBooks, the person said. Apple submitted a patent for the component in 2016, and it remains pending.

Huawei approached multiple Apple suppliers with expertise making the component and provided them with the same schematic. Those suppliers recognized the component as Apple’s design and refused to make it for Huawei, the person said. But Huawei eventually found a willing manufacturer.

In response to questions from The Information, Huawei said it requires its suppliers to uphold a high standard of ethics and expects them to honor their confidentiality obligations to other customers when communicating with Huawei. The company added it doesn’t seek or have access to its competitors’ confidential information.

Huawei also has attempted to glean information about Apple’s products from former Apple employees involved in its supply chain. One former Apple employee remembers interviewing for a job at Huawei immediately after leaving Apple. In the interview, Huawei executives kept asking questions about Apple’s upcoming products and technological features. The former Apple employee wouldn’t give any details and stopped interviewing at Huawei. “It was clear they were more interested in trying to learn about Apple than they were in hiring me,” the former employee said.

Huawei and others have long tried to obtain information about Apple’s products by approaching workers at assemblers like Foxconn Technology Group, the massive contract manufacturer that does work for many different smartphone companies, according to former Apple employees.

Although Apple assembly lines are isolated from other parts of manufacturers’ facilities and outfitted with metal detectors on each floor to prevent employees from stealing components, workers have leaked designs by sketching Apple’s parts and describing their materials to competitors. Before the rise of Huawei, competitors from South Korea often approached Apple’s suppliers to ask about proprietary components, according to one former Apple employee.

Apple requires suppliers to follow strict guidelines for factory security based on U.S. government regulations for the export of military and defense technologies, according to current and former Apple employees. Suppliers must maintain meticulous logs, store sensitive components under lock and key as well as maintain video surveillance. Apple’s global security team regularly audits suppliers and warns them over infractions. The team sometimes sends people undercover to repurchase stolen Apple components from black markets and uses forensic techniques to trace stolen parts back to specific suppliers and manufacturing sites.

The consequences of leaking Apple’s secrets are high for suppliers. In the ramp-up to production of the Apple Watch, for example, each supplier agreed to sign a bonded security contract, which meant they were automatically liable for more than $1 million in penalties out of a special escrow account if leaks were discovered.

When Apple first set up its Apple Watch manufacturing line at a site in Suzhou, China, operated by Quanta Computer, the line was under close guard, with badge access granted only to select workers authorized by Apple and its suppliers. Each machine in the process was concealed behind a maze of tarps and canvas walls to ensure suppliers couldn’t see the complete line as it was developed and tested. Machines taken off the floor were always covered and rolled away on carts to areas where only authorized personnel could work on the unit.

Often, foreign companies have little choice but to operate in China because of the size of its labor market and elaborate manufacturing and logistics networks. Foreign companies’ options in China are limited when it comes to confronting the theft of intellectual property, said Steve Snyder, a patent attorney focused on privacy and information security at Bradley
Arant Boult Cummings.

“Companies have to consider what recourse they have, and with China there’s basically none,” Mr. Snyder said. “While you can take steps to source from other places, if you can get it cheaper and get your product made in China, you sort of have to accept it.”

—Juro Osawa contributed to this article.

https://www.theinformation.com/artic...-trade-secrets

A very popular smartphone in China is very close copy of the Apple iphone called .... wait for it.....Opple.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Other smartphone makers have accused each other of intellectual property theft. Most famously, Apple successfully sued Samsung for copying its products. But the accusations against Huawei suggest a more brazen and elaborate system of seeking out secret information.

Seems it's been going on for centuries:

"Economic and industrial espionage has a long history. The work of Father Francois Xavier d'Entrecolles in Jingdezhen, China to reveal to Europe the manufacturing methods of Chinese porcelain in 1712 is sometimes considered an early case of industrial espionage.^[28]



Historical accounts have been written of industrial espionage between Britain and France.^[29] Attributed to Britain's emergence as an "industrial creditor", the second decade of the 18th century saw the emergence of a large-scale state-sponsored effort to surreptitiously take British industrial technology to France.^[29] Witnesses confirmed both the inveigling of tradespersons abroad and the placing of apprentices in England.^[30] Protests by those such as iron workers in Sheffield and steel workers in Newcastle,^{[clarification needed]} about skilled industrial workers being enticed abroad, led to the first English legislation aimed at preventing this method of economic and industrial espionage.^[31][30]"




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_espionage


But, but, but China is an evil exceptional country.........

Oh dear , Reuters is publishing Chinese propaganda:
Britain managing Huawei risks, has no evidence of spying: official

"LONDON/BRUSSELS (Reuters) - Britain is able to manage the security risks of using Huawei telecoms equipment and has not seen any evidence of malicious activity by the company, a senior official said on Wednesday, pushing back against U.S. allegations of Chinese state spying.

Ciaran Martin, head of Britain’s National Cyber Security Centre (NCSC), said Britain had yet to decide on its security policy for national 5G networks, but that Huawei equipment was subject to detailed oversight and strict government controls over where it was used.


“Our regime is arguably the toughest and most rigorous oversight regime in the world for Huawei,” Martin, whose NCSC is part of Britain’s GCHQ intelligence agency, said at a cybersecurity conference in Brussels.


Asked later whether Washington had presented Britain with any evidence to support its allegations, he told reporters: “I would be obliged to report if there was evidence of malevolence ... by Huawei. And we’re yet to have to do that. So I hope that covers it.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKCN1Q91PM

U.S. Efforts To Block Huawei Gives China An Advantage

"For several centuries China had a monopoly on silk. It was exported along the silk road to Persia and from there to Europe. Silk production was highly profitable. The export of silkworms and their production method was prohibited. in the mid 6-th century two monks made their way from Europe to China and found out how silk was produced. They reported back to the Byzantine emperor Justitian I who induced them to secretly acquire silkworms and to smuggle them back home. The monks managed to do that and soon thereafter the Chinese silk monopoly, and Persia's monopoly of silk trade with Europe, were no more.
The U.S. fears that China will soon be able to compete with it in computer chip design and fabrication. It is trying to block China from building its own chip factories and Congress even wants to block chip exports to specific Chinese companies. It is race that the U.S. will lose. Technology and the means of producing it inevitably proliferate.

The 5G mobile data networks will use new frequencies and algorithms to deliver gigabit data streams from, to and between mobile devices. This will allow for completely new applications like direct communication between (semi-)autonomous cars at any road crossing. Worldwide a number of companies are working to provide 5G technology. That involves antennas, base stations, new hard- and software in the periphery and in the core telecommunication systems. Main providers of such systems are U.S. companies like Motorola, Qualcomm and Cisco. Others are Ericsson and Samsung. One of the largest one is the Chinese company Huawei.

Currently Huawei is the most advanced company in the 5G field. It started early and invested huge sums into research and development for 5G technology. It owns some 15% of all relevant patents. It is currently the only provider that can deliver an end-to-end solution for 5G networks. As it serves the huge market of China it can produce on a large scale and sell its equipment for less than other companies do. The other dominant telecommunication equipment provider, including those in the United States, are lagging in 5G technology. They did not invest early enough and are now late to deliver.

Instead of investing in faster development and better technology the U.S. is trying to block Huawei from selling its goods. This hurts the development of other countries that want to provide 5G networks to their people.

The U.S. has long pressed its allies not to use Chinese equipment in their phone networks. It falsely claims that Huawei equipment is a security threat.

Australia and New Zealand followed the U.S. order and prohibited the use of Huawei equipment in their 5G networks. The U.S. also tried to press the big European countries to shun Huawei. So far it failed. Germany resisted U.S. pressure to not use Huawei stuff. It fears delays in 5G deployment should it ban Huawei. Yesterday Britain also pushed back:

Britain is able to manage the security risks of using Huawei telecoms equipment and has not seen any evidence of malicious activity by the company, a senior official said on Wednesday, pushing back against U.S. allegations of Chinese state spying.
...
“Our regime is arguably the toughest and most rigorous oversight regime in the world for Huawei,” [Chiaran Martin head of Britain’s National Cyber Security Centre (NCSC), which] is part of Britain’s GCHQ intelligence agency, said at a cybersecurity conference in Brussels. Asked later whether Washington had presented Britain with any evidence to support its allegations, he told reporters: “I would be obliged to report if there was evidence of malevolence ... by Huawei. And we’re yet to have to do that. So I hope that covers it.”

If Britain, a member of the Five Eyes intelligence sharing group, sees no danger in using Huawei then the U.S. has lost the case.
It is likely that Britain's announcement yesterday prompted this double-pronged U.S. reaction today:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump - 13:55 utc - 21 Feb 2019
I want 5G, and even 6G, technology in the United States as soon as possible. It is far more powerful, faster, and smarter than the current standard. American companies must step up their efforts, or get left behind. There is no reason that we should be lagging behind on.........

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump - 13:59 utc - 21 Feb 2019
....something that is so obviously the future. I want the United States to win through competition, not by blocking out currently more advanced technologies. We must always be the leader in everything we do, especially when it comes to the very exciting world of technology!

Within the same hour that Donald Trump claimed he wants "fair competition" over new mobile technology, his Secretary of State Mike Pompeo attempted to blackmail U.S. allies into not using Huawei systems:

U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Thursday warned that the United States would not be able to partner with or share information with countries that adopt Huawei Technologies Co Ltd systems, citing security concerns. In an interview on Fox Business Network, Pompeo said nations in Europe and elsewhere need to understand the risks of implementing Huawei’s telecommunications equipment and that when they did, they would ultimately not use the company’s systems.

“If a country adopts this and puts it in some of their critical information systems, we won’t be able to share information with them, we won’t be able to work alongside them,” Pompeo said.

Pompeo's thread sounds harsh. It is certainly not in the spirit of "winning through competition" that his boss promotes. It is also useless."


https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/02/us-efforts-to-block-huawei-gives-china-an-advantage.html#more


Who speaks for ameristan?

Is/was this speaker a Chinese spy?

Apple CEO Tim Cook: This Is the Number 1 Reason We Make iPhones in China (It's Not What You Think)


Take a look at the back of the box from which you unpacked your iPhone and you'll see this: "Designed by Apple in California Assembled in China."


Reading this tagline might trigger a vision in your mind of Jonathan Ive, Apple's legendary Chief Design Officer, dropping the drawings and technical specs for the next generation iPhone into a (highly secure) shared folder that its low-cost suppliers in China can access as they manufacture and assemble the product by the millions.


But as Apple CEO Tim Cook recently pointed out, this picture wouldn't tell the entire story of how an iPhone actually gets made today, nor why Apple prefers to make them in China. At the Fortune Global Forum in Guangzhou in early December (my firm, McKinsey & Company, was the Knowledge Partner), I listened to Cook as he explained why Apple continues to favor China as it central base for manufacturing iPhones:


"The number one reason why we like to be in China is the people. China has extraordinary skills. And the part that's the most unknown is there's almost 2 million application developers in China that write apps for the iOS App Store. These are some of the most innovative mobile apps in the world, and the entrepreneurs that run them are some of the most inspiring and entrepreneurial in the world. Those are sold not only here but exported around the world."

Highly skilled software developers developing apps for the App Store are one reason Apple likes to be in China. But the depth of highly skilled labor in the manufacturing space is why Apple makes its iPhones there:


"China has moved into very advanced manufacturing, so you find in China the intersection of craftsman kind of skill, and sophisticated robotics and the computer science world. That intersection, which is very rare to find anywhere, that kind of skill, is very important to our business because of the precision and quality level that we like. The thing that most people focus on if they're a foreigner coming to China is the size of the market, and obviously it's the biggest market in the world in so many areas. But for us, the number one attraction is the quality of the people."


Citing an example of the type of a highly-skilled supplier Apple works closely with, Cook talked at length about recently visiting one company that it has collaborated with for several years:

"I visited ICT--they manufacture, among other things, the AirPods for us. When you think about AirPods as a user, you might think it couldn't be that hard because it's really small. The AirPods have several hundred components in them, and the level of precision embedded into the audio quality--without getting into really nerdy engineering--it's really hard. And it requires a level of skill that's extremely high."


And the idea that Apple simply hands over the design to a company like ICT, which just manufacturers according to spec, is simply untrue, says Cook:

"It's not designed and sent over, that sounds like there's no interaction. The truth is, the process engineering and process development associated with our products require innovation in and of itself. Not only the product but the way that it's made, because we want to make things in the scale of hundreds of millions, and we want the quality level of zero defects. That's always what we strive for, and the way that you get there, particularly when you're pushing the envelope in the type of materials that you have, and the precision that your specifications are forcing, requires a kind of hand in glove partnership. You don't do it by throwing it over the chasm. It would never work. I can't imagine how that would be."

Addressing the designed-in-California, made-in-low-cost-China impression that many people have--an impression reinforced by the tagline that is printed on every box containing a new iPhone--Cook had this to say:

"There's a confusion about China. The popular conception is that companies come to China because of low labor cost. I'm not sure what part of China they go to but the truth is China stopped being the low labor cost country many years ago. And that is not the reason to come to China from a supply point of view. The reason is because of the skill, and the quantity of skill in one location and the type of skill it is."

And China has an abundance of skilled labor unseen elsewhere, says Cook:

"The products we do require really advanced tooling, and the precision that you have to have, the tooling and working with the materials that we do are state of the art. And the tooling skill is very deep here. In the US you could have a meeting of tooling engineers and I'm not sure we could fill the room. In China you could fill multiple football fields."

Cook credits China's vast supply of highly skilled vocational talent:

"The vocational expertise is very very deep here, and I give the education system a lot of credit for continuing to push on that even when others were de-emphasizing vocational. Now I think many countries in the world have woke up and said this is a key thing and we've got to correct that. China called that right from the beginning."

https://www.inc.com/glenn-leibowitz/...you-think.html

Originally Posted by OhOh

Is/was this speaker a Chinese spy?

Apple CEO Tim Cook: This Is the Number 1 Reason We Make iPhones in China (It's Not What You Think)

I know you're a snivelling chinky sycophant and all, but did you think he was going to say "the shit from chinastan is filthy cheap so we can rob even more money off the pretentious twats that buy our overpriced shit"?

Because that's the #1 reason you fucking mug.

Originally Posted by OhOh

In a possible related action:

Aust scrambling on China coal ban reports

Coal imports from Australia have reportedly been banned at China's northern port of Dalian and coal imports from all sources have been capped for 2019.

The federal government is trying to reassure coal exporters Australia's relationship with China is strong, as its top diplomats try to find out if a major Chinese port has banned imports of the crucial commodity.

There are fears the reported action by Chinese Customs officials could be part of retaliation by the Asian giant over the coalition's stance on Chinese telecoms group Huawei.

"Fears"?

It's fucking nailed on, blackmail, it's what the chinkies do; that's why Britain is lying and saying all the Huawei spy shit is safe while they feverishly work out how to ringfence the crap.

Originally Posted by OhOh

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/02/us-efforts-to-block-huawei-gives-china-an-advantage.html#more

Ooh a rare foray back into whackjob websites. We must getting desperate.

Any comments on the article or is it just the writer?

Originally Posted by OhOh

Any comments on the article or is it just the writer?

Ooooooh do fuck off, you're not dragging me down that whackjob website rabbit hole.

Next it will be lizard aliens running the show.

The links are basically:

US bad
Russia good
Russia good
US bad
US bad
US bad
US bad
Russia good
etc.

which probably makes you get the kleenex and hand lotion out every time you open it.

It seems someone jumped the gun...

Top British cybersecurity officials on Wednesday said the Chinese telecom equipment provider Huawei has yet to fix ‘‘serious’’ engineering problems that could leave civilian networks vulnerable to compromise, at a time when the United States is pressing its case that the company’s ties to China’s government make using its gear an unacceptable security and surveillance risk.


‘‘Last year we said we found some worrying engineering issues,’’ said Ian Levy, technical director of Britain’s National Cyber Security Center (NCSC). ‘‘As of today, we have not seen a credible plan [to address the issue]. That’s the reality of the situation, unfortunately.’’

Levy’s remarks, made during a media call, come as Britain is weighing how to manage cyber risks as it prepares for the rollout of super-fast 5G telecommunications systems. A key question is whether British officials will decide to bar Huawei — the world’s largest purveyor of such equipment — from domestic networks. A decision is expected later this spring.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/business...zpI/story.html