Thread: Former Russian spy critically ill in Britain after exposure to unidentified substance

Originally Posted by Begbie

Juvenile attempt at distraction.

I wouldn't have put the age as high as 'juvenile'.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

It seems the Russians are helping the UK in getting rid of people who pick up dog-ends and smoke them.

This is World News.

Link mandatory, remember?

Or are you just too embarrassed to admit that you're a Daily Mail reader?

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

I wouldn't have put the age as high as 'juvenile'.

Of course you wouldn't.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Link mandatory, remember?

Sorry moderator. Message to myself, 'Don't do it again'.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Sorry moderator. Message to myself, 'Don't do it again'.

I'm only tell you because your posts might get deleted. And you seem so proud of them.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I'm only tell you because your posts might get deleted. And you seem so proud of them.

Thanks for your concern Harry. Warning taken.

It just gets better.

One current theory is that Charlie Rowley and Dawn Sturgess picked up a container, such as a phial or syringe, used to transport Novichok in the attack on the Skripals.

Daily Mirror.

What happened to the dog-end theory?

IT's not nice that the Russian again do not cooperate. They did not contact the affected persons. And they refuse to tell us who has littered the dog-ends...
(sorry, no link)

Ok mustafa link...re: porton down

"The theorists are in overdrive."

Oh noes!

This is one of those Aussie links so it may not work.

British chemical warfare base within 10km radius of both Novichok crime scenes
https://www.news.com.au/technology/i...2fa6416823c994

This story just keeps on getting better. In a funny way. So they find a syringe containing white powder and took some of it cuz they thought it may be heroin. Is it April 1st?

One friend of the couple, who were known to be drug users, believes they may have found a syringe believing it contained heroin rather than the deadly poison used by assassins Britain claims were sent by Russia.
'It was definitely an accident. I think they found a package and it looked like drugs', she said.

Amesbury Novichok victim's mother fears daughter 'will die' | Daily Mail Online

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

This story just keeps on getting better. In a funny way. So they find a syringe containing white powder and took some of it cuz they thought it may be heroin. Is it April 1st?

No, it's the Daily Mail. But same thing really.

A 44-year-old British woman died on Sunday after being exposed to the Novichok nerve agent in western England just a few miles from where Russian ex-spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter were struck down by the same agent four months ago.

https://www.thenational.ae/world/eur...pital-1.748316

This Javid dude seems a bit thick.


Home Secretary Sajid Javid said: “The death of Dawn Sturgess is shocking and tragic news, and I want to express my sincere condolences to her family and friends. This has now become a murder investigation, and police and security officials are working around the clock to establish the full facts. “This desperately sad news only strengthens our resolve to find out exactly what has happened."

https://www.thenational.ae/world/eur...pital-1.748316

She's dead Jim.

From Harry's link:

Tests by Porton Down chemical weapons research centre showed they had been exposed to novichok.

Was it also tested to see if it matched what was in-house?


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ce-of-novichok

He denied Russian claims that the substance could have come from Porton Down, which is eight miles from Salisbury, saying: “There’s no way that anything like that would ever have come from us or leave the four walls of our facilities.”

No way at all... Just like there was no way that US military anthrax was used in the US right after 9/11. Right.

Originally Posted by SKkin

From Harry's link:



Was it also tested to see if it matched what was in-house?


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ce-of-novichok



No way at all... Just like there was no way that US military anthrax was used in the US right after 9/11. Right.

So you think this is a rogue Porton Down scientist? Who just happened to find a senior Russian defector?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

So you think this is a rogue Porton Down scientist?

Doubt it would be one of the scientists. More like someone high in the food chain who has a vested interest in blaming Russia. A scientist was proclaimed to be the suspect in the US anthrax case too. Falsely as it turned out...

The story has been fishier than a chippy's fish wrap from the beginning.

Originally Posted by SKkin

Doubt it would be one of the scientists. More like someone high in the food chain who has a vested interest in blaming Russia. A scientist was proclaimed to be the suspect in the US anthrax case too. Falsely as it turned out...

The one that topped himself?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The one that topped himself?

No, I meant Hatfill. I doubt that it was Ivins either, he's the one who topped himself. Hatfill was picked as the patsy(by your favorite G-Man Mueller) only after the "It was Al Qaeda!" accusations fell flat... Because it came out that the anthrax used was US military grade.

Originally Posted by SKkin

No, I meant Hatfill. I doubt that it was Ivins either, he's the one who topped himself. Hatfill was picked as the patsy(by your favorite G-Man Mueller) only after the "It was Al Qaeda!" accusations fell flat... Because it came out that the anthrax used was US military grade.

Ivins was the one they eventually pinned it on. All sorts of weird shit came out about him.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

All sorts of weird shit came out about him.

All "highly likely" sorts from government officials as well, must be true. Can't you perceive a common thread here?

An odd tidbit from Meduza. Video interview at link in Russian.



Sergey Skripal's niece in Russia denies making some big admissions in an interview with the BBC that she says never happened

Strange things are afoot with Victoria Skripal, the niece of Sergey Skripal, the former double agent poisoned and nearly killed in England earlier this year. On July 10, the BBC’s Russian-language service published an interview with Victoria, where she produced a copy of an exclusive contract with the Russian state television network Pervyi Kanal.


Victoria told the BBC that she’d been hired to work as an economist for the production company “Direkt,” with a monthly salary of 115,000 rubles ($1,840), without doing any actual work, except for appearing on Pervyi Kanal’s talk shows. The BBC captured all these admissions on tape. A source close to Skripal also told the BBC that she also received a one-time payment of 1 million rubles ($16,000).


Hours after the interview was published, however, Skripal told the magazine RBC that she never spoke to any journalists from the BBC. She says she works for Direkt, but insists that she actually performs the economist duties laid out in her contract, pointing out that she listed her monthly salary on her application for a British visa. Officials in the UK have already denied Skripal a visa twice: first for being unemployed, and then for earning too little income. She reportedly plans to file a third application.



In early July, the political party “Just Russia” nominated Victoria Skripal for a seat in the Yaroslavl regional parliament, which will hold elections on September 9.




https://meduza.io/en/news/2018/07/10...never-happened

Originally Posted by misskit

BBC’s Russian-language service

Your evidence for this is a Russian language video and Russian language report produced by BBC Russia?

Let's wait for the BBC in London publishing anything in English prior to commenting blind.