Former Russian spy critically ill in Britain after exposure to unidentified substance

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Originally Posted by Cujo

May has already received strong support from key European leaders and the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), the body responsible for the control of chemical weapons.

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How such a "strong support" works:

'I give you 24 hours to resign': 1st OPCW chief on how John Bolton bullied him before Iraq War
7 April 2018

The first OPCW chief, who tried to bring Iraq and Libya into the organization, told RT how US foreign policy hawk John Bolton threatened him over his refusal to resign prior to the 2003 Iraq War.

Jose Bustani, the first director-general of the global chemical weapons watchdog Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), sat down with RT and revealed how John Bolton, a Bush-era official and now Donald Trump's pick for National Security Adviser, bulldozed the way for the 2003 Iraq invasion.

Bustani, a Brazilian diplomat, led the organization from 1997 until 2002, when he was ousted after falling out of favor with the US. At the time, he was trying to convince Iraq and Libya to join the organization, meaning that the two countries would have been obliged to dispose of all chemical weapons if they had any.

He said that according to reliable intelligence he had as director-general, "it was obvious that during the first Iraq War everything had been destroyed [by Iraq]," and there was "nothing left for Iraq to be accused of possessing chemical weapons."

"I got a phone call from John Bolton – it was first time I had contact with him – and he said he had instructions to tell me that I have to resign from the organization, and I asked him why," Bustani told RT. "He said that [my] management style was not agreeable to Washington."

He resolutely refused to resign, only to see Bolton again at OPCW headquarters in The Hague several weeks after the phone conversation. "He came to my office and said: 'You have to resign and I give you 24 hours, this is what we want. You have to leave, you have to resign from your organization, director-general.'"

On April 21, 2002, a special meeting was finally held in The Hague, and Bustani's removal was carried out by a vote of 48–7, with 43 abstentions. The diplomat said those who abstained were from developing countries, and that his own government in Brazil "left me behind."

https://www.rt.com/usa/423477-bolton-threat-opcw-iraq/

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Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

So Boris Johnson has announced that a sample will be given to the OPCW.

Of course Russia will then say that the OPCW are the liars.

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It's good to know who to believe to and who not to...

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Originally Posted by Klondyke

It's good to know who to believe to and who not to...

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But you're one of these dopey c u n t s that think the sun shines out of Putin's arse of course.

So after stonewalling and blustering for weeks, now the Russians are demanding a meeting with Britain.

:rolleyes:

^Wondering what more clever you can enlighten us?

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Originally Posted by Klondyke

^Wondering what more clever you can enlighten us?

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:rofl:

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Originally Posted by Klondyke

^Wondering what more clever you can enlighten us?

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It would make more sense if you replied


"Naaawwww speaaaky Eeeeenglis".

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Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

It would make more sense if you replied

"Naaawwww speaaaky Eeeeenglis".

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^Wondering what anything else you confide to us?

I’m surprised that Harry has stuck his head over the parapet after being so wrong on nearly every aspect of this case. Could it be because he has access to confidential government documents?

Naaw :smileylaughing:

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Originally Posted by david44

Pussy and a brace of gerbils.

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Just the thing a normally single elderly man needs. That of course ignores the Gerbil is an ideal lab experimental animal.

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Originally Posted by Begbie

I’m surprised that Harry has stuck his head over the parapet after being so wrong on nearly every aspect of this case. Could it be because he has access to confidential government documents?

Naaw :smileylaughing:

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If you want to go ahead and tell me where I'm wrong, please feel free....

Otherwise I'm happy to hear the evidence as to why it wasn't Russians that used a Russian nerve agent to poison a Russian double agent.

:chitown:

In Harry's point of view, the Russians developed it so they did it . Case closed.

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Earlier this week, the head of the UK Porton Down defense lab said that they could not definitively conclude that the nerve agent was Russian-made, as previously claimed by Prime Minister Theresa May and Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson.

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Originally Posted by Pragmatic

In Harry's point of view, the Russians developed it so they did it . Case closed.

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What is it with the misquoting?

Do you understand the basics of criminal investigation?

Means, Motive and Opportunity.

The Russians had the means (a Russian made nerve agent), the motive (victim was a spy who did serious damage to Russian intelligence), and opportunity (victim was hardly keeping their head down).

And don't go off on all that shit about "they could have killed him earlier" because it's already been dealt with.

Try and keep up.

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Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

a Russian made nerve agent

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Not proven.

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Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

the motive (victim was a spy who did serious damage to Russian intelligence)

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And for that he only got 13 years I recall. I find it hard to believe he wasn't executed.

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Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

(victim was hardly keeping their head down).

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Why should he? The Russians would know all about where he lived from dot one.

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Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Try and keep up.

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Have you been asleep for the last week, Harry Van Winkle?

Nerve agent not identified as being Russian made. (Chief of Porton Down)

Nerve Agent could be made by any qualified chemist (Professor at Cornell University)

They’re all either dead or about to die (Harrybarracuda)

Policeman discharged from Hospital, Russians on way to full recovery (Salisbury Hospital)

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Originally Posted by Begbie

Have you been asleep for the last week, Harry Van Winkle?

Nerve agent not identified as being Russian made. (Chief of Porton Down)

Nerve Agent could be made by any qualified chemist (Professor at Cornell University)

They’re all either dead or about to die (Harrybarracuda)

Policeman discharged from Hospital, Russians on way to full recovery (Salisbury Hospital)

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Does this generic tripe offer any kind of evidence? No.

Of course it was Russian made (originally), the obfuscation is that someone else *could* have made it.

Said Professor doesn't know what Nerve agent was used, so how the fuck can he make a blanket statement like that?

Not sure WTF you're on about with the third, I have the same sources of information you do and I've never said anyone died or was dying, although lots of "experts" said they would..

Jolly glad they aren't dead, but all that means is that the dose or the manufacture was wrong.

NONE of which means it wasn't a Russian attack using Russian nerve agents against a Russia spy.

And AGAIN for the illiterate, of course they could have killed him but they obviously realised he had value in an exchange, so, you know, it's possible they just assumed they could get him later?

:rolleyes:


None have you tin foil hatters have offered *any* credible alternatives.

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Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Said Professor doesn't know what Nerve agent was used, so how the fuck can he make a blanket statement like that?

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Cuz the British government told everyone the name of the agent.

Got to admit it Harry that those Russians are liars.

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Russian scientists who developed the agents claim they are the deadliest nerve agents ever made, with some variants possibly five to eight times more potent than VX,

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3 people contaminated. 3 people survive. That won't look good if they wanted to sell some would it?

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Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Cuz the British government told everyone the name of the agent.

Got to admit it Harry that those Russians are liars. 3 people contaminated. 3 people survive. That won't look good if they wanted to sell some would it?

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Notice if you would the word agentS.

And we still don't know how it was delivered, because nothing has been made public yet.

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Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Notice if you would the word agentS.

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Was more than one agent used?

arguing with Harry is like arguing with a 13yr old chav, you will get yelled at and insulted as soon as you try to sound logical and point out his childish logic flaws :)

hey harry, what's up in the desert :)

Clearly another false flag in Salisbury.

https://teakdoor.com/attachment.php?a...id=11553&stc=1

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Originally Posted by lom

Novichoc

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Ahhhh, the new bar made by Cadbury's.

Now owned by an American company.

If you get my drifter :)

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Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Of course it was

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Could you clarify what the "it" is your referring to?

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Originally Posted by OhOh

Could you clarify what the "it" is your referring to?

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I'm sorry you can't follow a point by point response, but I'm not dumbing down to your level.

:)

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Originally Posted by Dragonfly

arguing with Harry is like arguing with a 13yr old child, you will get yelled at and insulted as soon as you try to sound logical and point out his childish logic flaws :)
:)

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Agreed.