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Porton Down lab admits it has not been able to prove Russia made nerve agent used in Salisbury spy attack
It was identified as weapons grade novichok, but they couldn't tell where it came from
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...mpression=true
The Porton Down boss showing by distancing himself from responsibility just how far the UK and US politicians are prepared to take this to satisfy their weapons industry masters.
Russia calls for urgent meeting at OPCW:
NOTE BY THE DIRECTOR-GENERAL
REQUEST BY THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION
TO CONVENE A MEETING OF THE EXECUTIVE COUNCIL
1. The Chairperson of the Executive Council, His Excellency Ambassador Sheikh
Mohammed Belal of Bangladesh, has received a request by the Permanent
Representative of the Russian Federation to the OPCW, to convene a meeting of the
Executive Council (hereinafter “the Council”) under Rule 12 of the Rules of
Procedure of the Council.
2. The meeting of the Council will be held at 10:00 on Wednesday, 4 April 2018, in the
Ieper Room of the OPCW Headquarters building (Johan de Wittlaan 32, The Hague).
3. A copy of the letter from the Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation to
the Chairperson of the Council is annexed hereto.
Annex (English only):
Letter from the Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation to the Chairperson of the
Executive Council, dated 29 March 2018
https://www.opcw.org/fileadmin/OPCW/...ecm5701_e_.pdf
An interview with the ex UK Ambassador for Uzbekistan. The country where one of the Soviet Union's CW testing facilities was situated. The facility subsequently was closed down, sanitizes and all equipment and research documents taken home by the ameristani authorities.
He discusses today's announcement by the CEO of Porton Down that, Porton Down cannot identify who produced, this remarkably inefficient, weapon of mass destruction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnEQxnYFLnw
Is there such a thing as 'commercial grade' nerve agent?Quote:
"We were able to identify it as Novichok, to identify that it was military-grade nerve agent,"
Possibly the only upside will be the end of BloJo , which could of course have been the motive.
Common pesticides or herbicides are commercial grade "chemical weapons".Quote:
Originally Posted by Pragmatic
A link to the video of the Porton Down announcement.
https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/981190172925616128
One hopes the CEO doesn't take evening walks in the countryside.
Right, now I understand thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
A filthy duplicitous Judas-like (Blair-like) [at][at][at][at]. Yes, let's hope it's the end of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by david44
As an Englishman, I'm utterly ashamed of how my country has become an American satelite. Theresa's and Boris's reactions have been utterly dictated by the great devil - the US. As have our internal national policies. All our current problems stem from the US. Like the rest of the world, we suffer due to the evil policies of the US government. Time for the whole world to rid itself of these evil and manipulative cvnts.
Russian spy's daughter Yulia Skripal was poisoned 'days after gaining access to a secret £150,000 bank account belonging to her dead brother'
The money belonged to Yulia's brother who died in mysterious circumstances
She was given power of attorney over the cash from her father Sergei Skripal
Yulia Skripal was poisoned with a nerve agent just days after gaining access to a £150,000 'secret bank account' with proceeds from a house sale in Britain, it has emerged.
The money had belonged to her brother Alexander who died in mysterious circumstances in St Petersburg last year.
She had been given power of attorney over the cash in late February from her father, double agent Sergei Skripal, poisoned by nerve agent Novichok alongside her on March 4 in Salisbury.
The cash - now in an unknown Russian bank - was from the sale of the house he had shared in Britain with his ex-wife, Natalia, like Yulia, 33, the daughter of a GRU military intelligence colonel.
Natalia - now married to a tennis coach from Wales - sold the house, and paid half the sum to her ex-husband.
The 'secret bank account' was disclosed by Sergei's niece Viktoria Skripal, 45, who aims this week to travel to meet Yulia in hospital in Salisbury.
The British authorities are preparing to grant her a visa so that she can become the first family member to meet Yulia, and also see her uncle Sergei, who remains in a coma.
Of Yulia's current condition, she said: 'The only thing I discovered from our (Russian) diplomats is that Yulia has opened her eyes, can eat, drink and has even said a few words.'
She and other family members have not yet spoken to her by phone or social media.
On the money she said: 'Nobody knows this yet.
Read more: Yulia Skripal poisoned after gaining access to secret bank account | Daily Mail Online
...*tsk*...the formal designation is Great Satan...Quote:
Originally Posted by Albert Shagnasty2017
Britain’s Boris Johnson accused of misleading public over Skripal poisoning evidence
Britain's top military laboratory said Tuesday that it cannot verify the nerve agent in the March 4 poisoning came from Russia.
Gary Aitkenhead, chief executive of the Defense Science and Technology Laboratory at Porton Down, told Sky News that although the substance used in the attack had been identified as Novichok — a class of chemical weapons developed in the former Soviet Union and Russia — it was not clear whether it had been made in Russia.
“We have not identified the precise source,” Aitkenhead said, though he added creating such a substance was “probably only in the capabilities of a state actor.”
These comments appear to contradict remarks Johnson made in an interview with German broadcaster Deutsche Welle on March 20. Asked how the British government could be so sure Russia was behind the attack, Johnson deferred to “the people from Porton Down,” who he said were “absolutely categorical.”
Diane Abbott of the opposition Labour Party called on Johnson to explain the apparent discrepancy. “It seems Boris Johnson misled the public when he claimed that Porton Down officials confirmed to him that Russia was the source of the nerve agent used in the Salisbury attack,” Abbot said in a statement Wednesday.
Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn later told reporters Johnson had “egg on his face” and that he “needs to answer some questions.”
Supporters of the government's position say it was never Porton Down's responsibility to determine the precise source of the nerve agent used against the Skripals. The British government released a statement Tuesday that said Aitkenhead's comments did not contradict the official line on the poisoning.
In a tweet on Tuesday, Porton Down reiterated this: “Our experts have precisely identified the nerve agent as a Novichok. It is not, and has never been, our responsibility to confirm the source of the agent.”
Johnson also responded Wednesday with tweets explaining his position, one of which said, “Corbyn is now playing Russia’s game and trying to discredit the UK over Salisbury attack.”
However, Johnson's comments to Deutsche Welle struck many in Britain as too ambiguous. Public opinion of the top British diplomat is mixed in Britain, in part because of his backing of Brexit ahead of Britain's vote to leave the European Union in 2016. As a journalist and frequent talk show guest before that, he was seen by many critics as using a bumbling demeanor to mask a loose grip on facts.
“Serial liar Boris Johnson caught lying again?” Kevin Maguire, an editor at the left-wing Daily Mirror, wrote on Twitter.
British journalists also noticed Wednesday the Foreign Office had deleted a March 22 tweet that said Porton Down had concluded the nerve agent used in the attack was “produced in Russia.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.87db8ad7dcc9
Boris Johnson manipulating and deceiving the public, now could that be ?
never did such a thing before, not even with Brexit :)
what a little turd that fat idiot has become, a complete disgrace, another overly ambitious power crazy politician ready to do anything to be the next PM
maybe the plan was to destabilize May with the Russian dossier, to have her replaced for lack of hard reaction
that obviously failed !!!
^^Accused implies some doubt, however Boris’ lie was recorded. There is no doubt that he lied about the Porton Down results.
He's a politician it's his job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonfly
He tweeted:
"28 other countries have been so convinced by UK case they have expelled Russians."
Convinced by arm twisting?
Russian spy: Moscow bid for joint poisoning inquiry fails at OPCW
Britain earlier said Russia's call for an inquiry with the UK was "perverse".
Russia lost the vote by 15 votes to six, while 17 member states abstained.
China, Azerbaijan, Sudan, Algeria and Iran were among the countries that backed Russia's motion at the OPCW executive council, Reuters reported.
Russian spy: Moscow bid for joint poisoning inquiry fails at OPCW - BBC News
What court in the world would start the inquiry only after the judgement was issued?
Only such one "perverse"...
what is really perverse here is the UK PM and her political click with her obese toyboy, Boris
UK locates source of novichok nerve agent used in Salisbury
Security services pinpoint secret Russian lab
Security services believe that they have pinpointed the location of the covert Russian laboratory that manufactured the weapons-grade nerve agent used in Salisbury, The Times has learnt.
Ministers and security officials were able to identify the source using scientific analysis and intelligence in the days after the attempted murder of Sergei and Yulia Skripal a month ago, according to security sources.
Britain knew about the existence of the facility where the novichok poison was made before the attack on March 4, it is understood. A Whitehall source added: “We knew pretty much by the time of the first Cobra [the emergency co-ordination briefing that took place the same week] that it was overwhelmingly likely to come from Russia.”
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/u...gent-nx8p39kqv
How convenient... Will they release details or is it simply enough that we know they know..? :chitown:
When one announces to ones friends. "We have a "stockpile" of this, holding up a phial of colourless liquid. It would be unfortunate if "anybody" in your country "accidentally" obtained samples. Wouldn't it?". Those who have their own stockpiles may smile. Those without would shout, "Yes, mistress, anything you say mistress" what and where do we sign?" No?Quote:
Originally Posted by Klondyke
From a brief search I have found two items which suggest, to me, the statement is a lie. As more knowledgable chemists have suggested, the info below and an intelligent student of chemistry, would be sufficient.Quote:
Originally Posted by Klondyke
1. A public list of the 12+ countries that are approved labs by the OPCW which would be able to produce the chemical weapons. (Slide 14 of 18)
https://www.unog.ch/80256EDD006B8954...nated_labs.pdf
2. A public paper illustrating the methods of production of chemicals, the lab equipment required for production, the lab equipment required for analysis/confirmation of the produced chemical and a list of companies from which the necessary chemicals can be purchased.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/rcm.7757
There are of course those countries who are not signers to the OPCW conventions, those that have not been inspected and those that are signers but have yet to be cleared by the OPCW. In addition any country could have a secret lab or as some do, "outsource" the possibly illegal work , to one of their vassals.
As we have seen, here in this thread, documentation exists between ameristan and one vassal, UK, for such purposes.
So potentially all the worlds countries could, if they so desired or were subjected to threats, produce the CWs. Those within the Crusader Coalition, those outside the Crusader Coalition and those who could be utilised or persuaded by either.
Thus 200 - 260 countries could have produced these CWs.
Court adjourned, Mr. Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson, please come to my chambers for consultation immediately.
Court adjourned until tomorrow.
As 'arry would "suggest", "It's top secret, comrade".Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo
A longer more detailed version of the PD CEO video. The gist is reporting their past work on the incident along with their ongoing work utilising other "sources" input. He also recognises that the MET Police are the organisation who should be asked for the comprehensive investigation.
In other words they are the sole UK agency with the very experienced chemists, we have the advanced equipment, we can compare our analysis with the OPCW data base..... but cannot comment on what the "other sources" have provided PD to assist our analysis..
Available here:
https://news.sky.com/story/salisbury...laims-11316209
...quite the echo chamber in here...