What media, Alex Jones??
You’re not even bright enough to spot obvious satire so stop talking shit.
What media, Alex Jones??
You’re not even bright enough to spot obvious satire so stop talking shit.
I am starring to think it's not a gun problem, but a society problem
take away the guns and they would still go at each other with whatever they have, knife, baseball bats, cars etc...
Stephen and his girlfriend at a family event.
Last edited by Wilsonandson; 05-10-2017 at 06:31 PM.
Elevator.
An automatic weapon fired in its direction should do the trick.
Just pointing them in the general direction and pulling the triggers should be enough.
Where's the proof he had no training?
Last edited by Neverna; 05-10-2017 at 09:41 PM. Reason: typo
Stephen Paddock: Sheriff gives timeline of Las Vegas gunman's 10-minute shooting spree
Mass murderer killed 58 people and injured more than 500 by firing automatic weapons from Manadalay Bay hotel window into crowd attending Route 91 country music festival
Ben Klayman
Thursday 5 October 2017 13:31 BST
Law enforcement officers on Las Vegas Boulevard South on 2 October 2017 following the mass shooting Reuters
Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo on Wednesday evening presented the following timeline for Las Vegas gunman who killed 58 people and himself in the deadliest mass shooting in modern US history.
Stephen Paddock, 64, strafed an outdoor concert on Sunday night from his 32nd-floor suite of the Mandalay Bay hotel on the Las Vegas strip.
Timeline
10.05 pm — First shots fired by the suspect. This was seen on closed-circuit television from the concert venue.
10.12 pm — First two officers arrive on 31st floor and announce gunfire is coming from directly above them.
10.15 pm — Last shots are fired from the suspect per body worn camera.
10.17 pm — First two officers arrive on 32nd floor.
10.18 pm — Security officer tells Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department officers he was shot and gives them exact location of suspect's room.
10.26-10.30 pm — Eight additional officers arrive on 32nd floor and begin to move systematically down the hallway, clearing every room and looking for any injured people. They move this way because they no longer hear the gunfire of an active shooter situation.
10.55 pm — Eight officers arrive in stairwell at the opposite end of the hallway nearest to the suspect's room.
11.20 pm — The first breach was set off and officers entered the room. They observed the suspect down on the ground and also saw a second door that could not be accessed from their position.
11.27 pm — The second breach was set off, allowing officers to access the second room. Officers quickly realised there was no one else in the rooms and announced over the radio that the suspect was down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2uEKUc0_Vc
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7984596.html
Last edited by Wilsonandson; 05-10-2017 at 09:51 PM.
Doesn't fascinate me. Two pals working off each other with rehearsed and pat lines that I have a suspicion are ingenuous. For example, his criticism of "the current administration not using the tools it has, thus why do they call for more tools" I think is disingenuous because the then "current administration" is hampered in using those tools by other laws that the NRA has sponsored....eg no databases and no inter-state information sharing.
Las Vegas gunman booked hotel near Grant Park during Lollapalooza: TMZ
Chicago News 10/05/2017, 09:09am
The Blackstone Hotel in Chicago. | Mitch Dudek/Sun-Times
Sun-Times Staff
Stephen Paddock, the gunman who perched himself in a Las Vegas hotel room and used a litany of guns to kill 58 people attending a concert below, booked rooms at a Michigan Avenue hotel overlooking Grant Park during Lollapalooza, but never showed up, according to a report from TMZ.
Paddock booked two rooms at The Blackstone Hotel, 636 S. Michigan Ave., one from Aug. 1 through Aug. 6 and the other during the duration of the fest, Aug. 3 through Aug. 6, according to the report.
The festival attracted about 100,000 people a day, including Malia Obama.
According to TMZ:
“The hotel directly overlooked the main stage as well as several adjoining stages. It also overlooks the main entrance and exit where thousands of people file through. And the hotel had a bird’s-eye view of the crowd. We’re told Paddock specifically requested both rooms be a ‘view room’ which only face Grant Park, where the concert was being held. . . . Sources tell TMZ Paddock had never booked a room at the hotel before, nor had his girlfriend.”
The hotel has 23 floors. TMZ did not indicate the location of the rooms Paddock booked.
A manager at The Blackstone Hotel declined to comment Thursday morning, and the FBI referred all questions to the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department.
Lollapalooza referred all questions to the Chicago Police Department.
Chicago Police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi would not confirm or deny the TMZ report, saying in a statement posted on Twitter, “We are aware of recent media reports concerning Chicago and The Blackstone Hotel.” He also said that police “have been in communication with our federal partners. As you saw earlier this week the city conducts extensive public safety planning and training around major events, in close coordination with our law enforcement partners, to ensure public safety.”
Location of The Blackstone Hotel in Chicago, just across the street from Grant Park. | Google Maps
The TMZ reports come as investigators continue to probe Paddock’s whereabouts in the months before the Las Vegas massacre.
The Associated Press reported Wednesday that Paddock had rented a room in the Ogden Las Vegas hotel around the same time as the “Life is Beautiful” music festival, which was held Sept. 22-24. The room overlooked The Life is Beautiful festival, which featured Chance the Rapper, Muse, Lorde and Blink-182.
“Was he doing pre-surveillance? We don’t know yet,” said Las Vegas Sheriff Joseph Lombardo. “This is all pre-conjecture.”
On Sunday, Paddock opened fire from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino, killing 58 people and injuring nearly 530 at a country music festival before killing himself.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/re...-during-lolla/
It's not in the video but several media outlets have that timeline. Here's the NY Times and LA Times. One small difference though - "personal" is replaced by "per".
https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2017...-timeline.html
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-las...htmlstory.html
Apparently he was a postal clerk in the 80s, could be a connection somehow.
The taxi video in full.
Afaic anyone killed or injured in this incident who supported/supports the whole "right to bear arms" bullshit...well, they were/are the authors of their own misfortune.
If you, as a nation or as a state, will vote for and allow easy access to military grade weaponry then you as a people must also accept such instances as inevitable. No good shedding crocodile tears over such happenings while actively supporting the system which allows them to keep happening. Part and parcel.
If this type of scenario is the price Americans are willing to pay for their "rights", so be it. More fool them.
Published on Oct 5, 2017
More than a month before the attack in Las Vegas, Stephen Paddock booked a room that overlooked the Lollapalooza music festival in Chicago, but never checked in. He also booked rooms overlooking a different festival in Las Vegas and researched locations in Boston around Fenway Park. Jeff Pegues reports.
Precisely. Just last year a truck drove through a crowd killing more people than the Vegas shooter did. Some put that down to an isolated incident, but as such events become more frequent, and they will, the 'isolated incident' dismissal will still be used by some even as it becomes less valid and eventually invalid.
But for some reason many prefer to forget about the need for truck control since gun control has been made the current flavour; can't imagine by whom.
Guns, like trucks and bombs and machetes, are no more than a means for responsible use to mass murder. If the Vegas shooter was unable to get his hands on an arsenal, what would have stopped him from buying/renting a monster truck and ploughing it into a large crowd? It's really not that difficult, even for the thickest skinned, to realise that if somebody wants to kill a bunch of people there are plenty of options, while trucks, cars and other killing machines are far easier to get hold of than guns.
Sadly, loud vessels are ever ready to join in communal hysteria when random batches of lives are lost by gun, yet regard the same by truck as less unacceptable, or as one noble leader put it, to be accepted as 'part and parcel of life in the city'.
He's just not up to it, is he.
It worked intermittently in his muslim guise.
Now it's like watching Benny Hill in a straight dramatic role.
I didn't realise he got hit in the head as well.
Scalise says its ?little bit early? to start restricting bump stocks | New York PostHouse Majority Whip Steve Scalise said “it’s a little bit early” to start talking about restricting bump stocks like the one the Las Vegas madman used to speed up his weapon’s rate of fire as he carried out the worst mass shooting in US history.
“If you talk to anybody about a week ago, most people, including myself, didn’t even know what a bump stock was,” Scalise said in an interview with NBC’s Chuck Todd that will air on “Meet the Press” on Sunday.
“There are people that want to rush to judgment. They’ve got a bill written already. I do think it’s a little bit early for people to say they know what to do to fix this problem,” he said.
Meanwhile: Potential Whackjobs are grabbing them while they can.
Sales surge for bump stocks used by Vegas gunman | New York Post
Bump stocks that give semi-automatic weapons automatic firing power are flying off the shelves ever since it emerged that madman Stephen Paddock used them during his Las Vegas shooting spree, a report said.
Stoopid American says
Well.... you can imagine the tweets..."England has a terrorist attack every hour and they have the balls to ask us why we want our guns?"
I think you're confusing terror attacks with Top Gear repeats on Dave.
I know right! I just realised that I’m running late for my 15:00 attack, and might have to reschedule the 16:00 one.
16:00 was cancelled mate, so they're doing two at 17:00,but apparently thoughts and prayers for 4 are still valid at 5 so you should be ok.
I’ve had a card from my terrorist saying sorry he missed me. Anyone know where I go to collect my attack?
We don’t even have busses every hour you mad c**t
It's how we keep time... One O'terrorist, Two O'terrorist...
It's quarter to terrorist, I'm going to miss my train!
Every hour, pah! I waited two hours for an act of terrorism and then three showed up together!
Sorry to tell you this old bean but we didn't have any today as the idiots tried to get here using Southern Rail.
Can someone cover 9pm tomorrow for me, I need to watch Eastenders. Thanks.
England actually has a hissy fit every hour about the improper making of a cup of tea. Milk first?? Now that's an act of terror!
Explosive possessed by Stephen Paddock may have been used in NYC bombing
Investigation (FBI) carry on investigations at the scene of an explosion on West 23rd Street and Sixth Avenue in Manhattan's Chelsea neighborhood, in New York. (AP Photo/Andres Kudacki, File)
By Mike Brunker Las Vegas Review-Journal
October 5, 2017 - 5:54 pm
An explosive compound like the one found in Las Vegas mass shooter Stephen Paddock’s car and home is believed to have been used last year in an alleged terrorist bombing in New York City.
Authorities say they recovered an undisclosed amount of the compound known as Tannerite from Paddock’s home in Mesquite and 50 pounds from his car parked at Mandalay Bay, where he used high-powered firearms to mow down concertgoers at the adjacent Route 91 Harvest festival on Sunday.
Police have not said why the 64-year-old Paddock possessed Tannerite, which is unregulated and legally used by marksmen to create targets that emit a small cloud of smoke when they are struck. Authorities also found ammonium nitrate, another ingredient that can be used to build bombs, in his vehicle at the site of the shooting.
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives notes that products like Tannerite are binary, meaning they consist of two separate components that are inert when separated. “But when mixed, they are high explosives and should be treated with caution and in accordance with manufacturer’s instructions,” the agency noted in a 2015 safety advisory.
An explosive possessed by Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock may have been used in an NYC bombing. Authorities say they recovered the compound known as Tannerite from Paddock’s home in Mesquite and his car parked at Mandalay Bay. Police have not said why the 64-year-old possessed Tannerite, which is unregulated. Authorities also found ammonium nitrate in his vehicle. It can also be used to build bombs. Tannerite apparently was used in a September 2016 bombing in New York's Chelsea neighborhood that injured 31 people. Authorities later arrested Ahmed Rahami in connection with that bombing.Tannerite apparently was used in a September 2016 bombing in New York City’s Chelsea neighborhood that injured 31 people. Various news accounts at the time quoted unidentified federal officials as saying that residue of the product was found at the scene.
Authorities later arrested Ahmed Rahami, an Afghan immigrant, and charged him with federal terrorism and weapons offenses in connection with that bombing and two others in New Jersey.
According to prosecutors, Rahami had posted videos praising a former leader of the al-Qaida terrorist group and decrying U.S. military actions in countries like Afghanistan and Syria on social media prior to his arrest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIbb-vuwyNs
https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/...n-nyc-bombing/
Last edited by Wilsonandson; 06-10-2017 at 01:45 PM.
sounds more and more like a planned ISIS job,
was his girfriend muslim by any chance ? plenty of them in Pi
That article is just dumb. Tannerite is commonly sold in America. To imply that he has something to due with that bombing is just ridiculous.
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