UK: Manchester Arena - Explosion, Fatalities

**Hugh Cow** · 03-06-2017, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by ENT

Mosques in Manchester are refusing to deal with bomber Salman Abedi’s body.

His corpse is currently being held in a morgue outside the city it has been reported and city authorities are believed to be doing ‘everything in their power’ to stop him being cremated, buried, or laid to rest in any way in the Greater Manchester area.

A final decision will be made as to what to do with the body after inquest hearings.

His body has not once ever been kept in the same place as his 22 victims.

Mosques refusing to bury body of suicide bomber Salman Abedi (From Asian Image)

Just dump his body at the tip with the rest of the garbage.

**DrB0b** · 03-06-2017, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

Originally Posted by ENT

Mosques in Manchester are refusing to deal with bomber Salman Abedi’s body.

His corpse is currently being held in a morgue outside the city it has been reported and city authorities are believed to be doing ‘everything in their power’ to stop him being cremated, buried, or laid to rest in any way in the Greater Manchester area.

A final decision will be made as to what to do with the body after inquest hearings.

His body has not once ever been kept in the same place as his 22 victims.

Mosques refusing to bury body of suicide bomber Salman Abedi (From Asian Image)

Just dump his body at the tip with the rest of the garbage.

Health and Safety

**Passing Through** · 03-06-2017, 02:11 PM

city authorities are believed to be doing ‘everything in their power’ to stop him being cremated, buried, or laid to rest in any way in the Greater Manchester area.

And I bet these people think that they're good secularists, acting without religious motivations of their own.

**Chittychangchang** · 05-06-2017, 04:40 AM

What a concert, one of the best i've ever seen!

Liam Gallagher making a surprise performance.

Cold play outstanding.

Robbie Williams

Pharrell Williams

Black Eyed Peas, just to name a few were outstanding.

Not forgetting Ariana Grande singing Somewhere over the rainbow at the end.

If you've not seen the live concert that was screened in 50 countries and 5 continents then check it out!!!

Video in link it's 3 and a half hours, but bloody brilliant.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/events/evfwhn/live/c8cdgw

**DrB0b** · 05-06-2017, 05:00 AM

Originally Posted by Passing Through

city authorities are believed to be doing ‘everything in their power’ to stop him being cremated, buried, or laid to rest in any way in the Greater Manchester area.

And I bet these people think that they're good secularists, acting without religious motivations of their own.

They don't want a murdering piece of filth buried anywhere near his victims. Do you have a problem with that?

**Passing Through** · 05-06-2017, 11:17 AM

I couldn't give a fuck where he ends up. I'm interested, though, in the intense religiosity of people's reactions to these kinds of events, especially when they are from the avowedly non-religious.

**harrybarracuda** · 05-06-2017, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

What a concert, one of the best i've ever seen!

Liam Gallagher making a surprise performance.

Cold play outstanding.

Robbie Williams

Pharrell Williams

Black Eyed Peas, just to name a few were outstanding.

Not forgetting Ariana Grande singing Somewhere over the rainbow at the end.

If you've not seen the live concert that was screened in 50 countries and 5 continents then check it out!!!

Video in link it's 3 and a half hours, but bloody brilliant.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/events/evfwhn/live/c8cdgw

The terrorists won.

**Chittychangchang** · 05-06-2017, 10:51 PM

No they have not, they've just become even more isolated from their communities.

In a generation or two they will be gone, not dissimilar to the IRA.

**DrB0b** · 05-06-2017, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by Passing Through

I couldn't give a fuck where he ends up. I'm interested, though, in the intense religiosity of people's reactions to these kinds of events, especially when they are from the avowedly non-religious.

You think not wanting the body of a murderer buried near the bodies of his victims is "intensely religious". That makes no sense at all.

**harrybarracuda** · 06-06-2017, 12:50 AM

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

No they have not, they've just become even more isolated from their communities.

In a generation or two they will be gone, not dissimilar to the IRA.

If Justin fucking Bieber can appear in the UK without anyone wanting to smack the annoying little fucker in the mouth, then the terrorists have won.

Added: I even saw people calling Piers Morgan a "hero" today.

If that is not enough proof for you I don't know what is.

**Chittychangchang** · 06-06-2017, 12:54 AM

A non belieber

**cyrille** · 06-06-2017, 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The terrorists won.

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

No they have not, they've just become even more isolated from their communities.

In a generation or two they will be gone, not dissimilar to the IRA.

Yeah, they lost big time.

**DrB0b** · 06-06-2017, 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by cyrille

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The terrorists won.

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

No they have not, they've just become even more isolated from their communities.

In a generation or two they will be gone, not dissimilar to the IRA.

Yeah, they lost big time.

Yeah, bit of an odd statement from harry considering the IRA have been around for over 100 years, negotiated a truce, and haven't disappeared yet.

**Passing Through** · 06-06-2017, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by Passing Through

I couldn't give a fuck where he ends up. I'm interested, though, in the intense religiosity of people's reactions to these kinds of events, especially when they are from the avowedly non-religious.

You think not wanting the body of a murderer buried near the bodies of his victims is "intensely religious". That makes no sense at all.

No doubt, if my child had been killed, I wouldn't want her killer cozying up to her in a shared grave for all eternity but since I'm a good materialist, that thought makes no sense and beyond just saying 'well, that's how I feel', I can't justify it. This feeling isn't religious in a doctrinal sense but it's religious (not the best word perhaps, but this is Teakdoor so it'll do) in the sense of treating the material world as if special parts of it (in this case a bit of long-dead flesh) had some kind of magical property.

**NZdick1983** · 06-06-2017, 04:07 PM

^ I hear (or read) this train of thought often on TD...

This disconnect from any emotion - thinking like a computer devoid of any humanity.

Just bits of flesh, who cares who is buried next to my loved ones, etc...

Not saying you are wrong.. in a sense, you are right and I can see your point... it's just a modern atheist/purely scientific and pragmatic, philosophy, I suppose.

Me, I can't think like that, sometimes I wish I could, but my emotions rule my brain 55

**harrybarracuda** · 06-06-2017, 04:32 PM

I can't see what all this fuss is about.

Cremate his remains with a packet of bacon and dump the shit in a landfill with the rest of the garbage.

**baldrick** · 06-06-2017, 04:37 PM

can't they just do what they did to osama

fill his pockets with rocks and dump him off the back of a boat ?

**harrybarracuda** · 06-06-2017, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by baldrick

can't they just do what they did to osama

fill his pockets with rocks and dump him off the back of a boat ?

Perhaps there isn't enough of him left.

Maybe they could sprinkle him on a pond.

**DrB0b** · 06-06-2017, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by Passing Through

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by Passing Through

I couldn't give a fuck where he ends up. I'm interested, though, in the intense religiosity of people's reactions to these kinds of events, especially when they are from the avowedly non-religious.

You think not wanting the body of a murderer buried near the bodies of his victims is "intensely religious". That makes no sense at all.

No doubt, if my child had been killed, I wouldn't want her killer cozying up to her in a shared grave for all eternity but since I'm a good materialist, that thought makes no sense and beyond just saying 'well, that's how I feel', I can't justify it. This feeling isn't religious in a doctrinal sense but it's religious (not the best word perhaps, but this is Teakdoor so it'll do) in the sense of treating the material world as if special parts of it (in this case a bit of long-dead flesh) had some kind of magical property.

If you don't think the material body of your child, which you hugged and kissed, nurtured and watch grow. Which called you Mum or Dad, the source of the voice which told you it loved you and the laughter which brightened your days and which is now gone forever is not precious and was not the source and object of some special property, a property which is not non-existent, a property most people call love is nothing more than a piece of flesh to discard than I both pity and despise you.

Originally Posted by NZdick1983

Not saying you are wrong..

He is wrong. FFS, for once in your life get off the fence and have a real opinion on something!

**Passing Through** · 06-06-2017, 05:25 PM

If you don't think the material body of your child, which you hugged and kissed, nurtured and watch grow. Which called you Mum or Dad, the source of the voice which told you it loved you and the laughter which brightened your days and which is now gone forever is not precious and was not the source and object of some special property, a property which is not non-existent, a property most people call love is nothing more than a piece of flesh to discard than I both pity and despise you.

Well in that case, I'll be sure to leave a teddy for you when you go off to sleep with the angels.

But, actually, you can ease off on your indignation a little. I realise that you live life with your outrage-ometer permanently on the red line and your hair-trigger problem seems to worsening with age but if you look back, you'll see that what I said was not that my child's dead body would not be important but that as a materialist, I can't justify the feelings which I would have. Obviously enough, we all have religious or religious-like feelings and impulses and although we can give, say, an evolutionary account of why we might have these feelings, that's not the same as a justification.

**NZdick1983** · 06-06-2017, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by DrB0b

He is wrong. FFS, for once in your life get off the fence and have a real opinion on something!

I voiced my opinion... I said don't agree with him.. just as I vehemently disagreed with your comments on Piwi... I'm just more diplomatic than most, doesn't mean I don't hold strong beliefs..

How's this then.. I fucking absolutely don't bloody well agree with you SA.. I wouldn't bury my yet born son's turd next to that Muzzie cocksucking vile murderer... how's that then?

Opps.. I spoke ill of the dead... woe is fucking me

***always exceptions to the rule innit***

**Passing Through** · 06-06-2017, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by Dick

Just bits of flesh, who cares who is buried next to my loved ones, etc..

Originally Posted by Me

if my child had been killed, I wouldn't want her killer cozying up to her in a shared grave for all eternity

Really, what is the fucking point?

**cyrille** · 06-06-2017, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by NZdick1983

How's this then.. I fucking absolutely don't bloody well agree with you SA.. I wouldn't bury my yet born son's turd next to that Muzzie cocksucking vile murderer... how's that then?

Blimey you're right.

It's like Ariana Grande trying to be Liam Gallagher.

**Passing Through** · 06-06-2017, 06:16 PM

I fucking absolutely don't bloody well agree with you SA

What?

**NZdick1983** · 06-06-2017, 06:18 PM

Opps.. was it PT? I always get them confused...

Can I try again?

Cyrille's not impressed...

dunno.. I'm in even more jovial a mood than normal... counting down the days to move to Japan...

Sorry, that was the best I could muster....

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