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    Time to unleash the lions.

    ..... unleash the trump!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers View Post
    I find it very interesting that once PCness got involved in how to fight wars with our enemies, we began losing. It peaked during the Vietnam War when Washington had more say about what was going on in the battle arena than the generals did who were actually there. Take a good look at the outcome of that conflict and any rational person would say the US was defeated. Fast forward to the Iraq war, same thing and again in Afghanistan.

    What good does it do to have superior weapons and troop training when it can not be used to its full potential because some idiot politician worries about what others think. It is time to change the rules of engagement and start kicking some ass, whether it be Muslim ass or any other ass that needs to be kicked that threatens our way of life. The politicians need to stick to politics and let the generals fight the wars. Why hobble the fighting machine? Let them loose and go into Syria and demolish ISIS.

    Time to get tough. The US has tried it the PC way for over 50 hears now and it has been a joke. Time to unleash the lions.
    Great post, but try and tell that to the liberal progressive handwringers who actually believe that these murdering bastards have "Rights"

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    The liberal progresives can suck wind. They have had their day and that is why the world is in the mess it is in. It is crunch time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    Time to unleash the lions.

    ..... unleash the trump!
    Whatever it takes. I am tired of listening to all the scaredy cats back peddling and setting us up for another fall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    I find it very interesting that once PCness got involved in how to fight wars with our enemies, we began losing. It peaked during the Vietnam War when Washington had more say about what was going on in the battle arena than the generals did who were actually there. Take a good look at the outcome of that conflict and any rational person would say the US was defeated. Fast forward to the Iraq war, same thing and again in Afghanistan.

    What good does it do to have superior weapons and troop training when it can not be used to its full potential because some idiot politician worries about what others think. It is time to change the rules of engagement and start kicking some ass, whether it be Muslim ass or any other ass that needs to be kicked that threatens our way of life. The politicians need to stick to politics and let the generals fight the wars. Why hobble the fighting machine? Let them loose and go into Syria and demolish ISIS.

    Time to get tough. The US has tried it the PC way for over 50 hears now and it has been a joke. Time to unleash the lions.
    "PC" has nothing to do with it. It's The Geneva Conventions and it sounds very much as though you're advocating breaking them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    Time to unleash the lions.

    ..... unleash the trump!
    For sure Tax he's the only guy in US politics who is not afraid of speaking the real truth about the clear and present danger of Islamic fundamentalism , and of course those who disagree and say there is no danger from it please by all means plead your case

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    Absolutely. The Geneva Convention was drafted during the times of 'conventional' war and is very outdated. What we have seen recently is anything but conventional. Talk about tying your hands behind your back, the Geneva Convention is a perfect example. I expect to see it changed in the very near future.

    Whatever you want to call worrying about fighting by the rules, it needs to be moved more toward street fighting. I never lost a bar fight, but I did not follow any rules or Geneva Convention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    Time to unleash the lions.

    ..... unleash the trump!
    Whatever it takes. I am tired of listening to all the scaredy cats back peddling and setting us up for another fall.
    Yeah our Achilles heel is that the European liberal progressive politicians insist that we fight the war against Islamic radicals by the rules of the Geneva Convention and they some how have "rights" sadly some TD head up their nether regions members agree to this "losers charter "too , you just could not make it up .

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    The liberal progresives can suck wind. They have had their day and that is why the world is in the mess it is in.
    Umm.....it was the Bushes wars that got us into this mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    Time to unleash the lions.

    ..... unleash the trump!
    Whatever it takes. I am tired of listening to all the scaredy cats back peddling and setting us up for another fall.
    A great idea that will get you no-where....small groups like ISIS are very hard to beat. We are at War whether we like it or not.....The Germans couldn't stop the French Resistance in WW11 and look how long the battle between the UK and the IRA went on .The only way that was stopped was by sitting around a table and striking up a deal by peaceful political means
    Whenever there is Action there will always be a Reaction and the West have caused a lot of the problems we see today and if it wasn't for the West's love and obsession for Oil the world would be a more peaceful place.
    Big Ol' Lucky Ol' Al.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    Whatever you want to call worrying about fighting by the rules, it needs to be moved more toward street fighting. I never lost a bar fight, but I did not follow any rules or Geneva Convention.
    Fairy 'nuff - however the issue with that is when you take it to its logical conclusion.

    If you are not concerned about following rules then you can hardly complain when your opponent kicks you in the goolies when you're not looking, pokes you in the eye with a sharp implement whilst you're writhing on the ground in agony and clutching your bruised and swollen nads, and then calls his mates over to kick you in the head.

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    ^^^
    Agree, but unfortunately he listened to the liberal progressive rhetoric that kept pounding him once he decided to go in. He should have finished the job when he had the chance, but he just followed papa's lead. HUGE mistake on many fronts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers View Post
    Absolutely. The Geneva Convention was drafted during the times of 'conventional' war and is very outdated. What we have seen recently is anything but conventional. Talk about tying your hands behind your back, the Geneva Convention is a perfect example. I expect to see it changed in the very near future.

    Whatever you want to call worrying about fighting by the rules, it needs to be moved more toward street fighting. I never lost a bar fight, but I did not follow any rules or Geneva Convention.
    Yeah the rules for you in a Street fight ,are as follows no head butting , no eye gouging , no hitting below the belt and no kicking in the bollocks , your adversary can do what ever it takes to win , best of luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    He should have finished the job when he had the chance


    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    unfortunately he listened to the liberal progressive rhetoric that kept pounding him once he decided to go in
    That's one way of looking at it.

    Another is that he invaded another sovereign nation under a pretext based on lies that then became increasingly untenable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    He should have finished the job when he had the chance
    His job was to make Cheney and his friends a lot of money. He performed that job quite well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    Whatever you want to call worrying about fighting by the rules, it needs to be moved more toward street fighting. I never lost a bar fight, but I did not follow any rules or Geneva Convention.
    Fairy 'nuff - however the issue with that is when you take it to its logical conclusion.

    If you are not concerned about following rules then you can hardly complain when your opponent kicks you in the goolies when you're not looking, pokes you in the eye with a sharp implement whilst you're writhing on the ground in agony and clutching your bruised and swollen nads, and then calls his mates over to kick you in the head.
    All hypothetically possible, but it never happened. Just like all the hypothetical consequences off taking off the gloves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    He should have finished the job when he had the chance
    His job was to make Cheney and his friends a lot of money. He performed that job quite well.
    Yes, he did and he had the nerve to say, "Mission accomplished." What a dolt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    Time to get tough. The US has tried it the PC way for over 50 hears now and it has been a joke. Time to unleash the lions.
    "PC" has nothing to do with it. It's The Geneva Conventions and it sounds very much as though you're advocating breaking them.
    That's a stupid non-argument, 'PC' has everything to do with it.

    'PC' indicates political correctness, implying adherence to some hopefully appropriate interpretation of a political convention or agreement.

    The Geneva Convention is nothing other than a politically correct international accord, it can't be anything other than that, and any signator to that document may opt out at any time, as is the case with all contracts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    'PC' indicates political correctness, implying adherence to some hopefully appropriate interpretation of a political convention or agreement.
    po·lit·i·cal cor·rect·ness
    noun
    the avoidance, often considered as taken to extremes, of forms of expression or action that are perceived to exclude, marginalize, or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against.

    PC in it's current usage - and especially as it's used here on TD, blamed as the root cause of basically everything - came about after The Geneva Conventions, ENT.

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    And yet another definition of Political Correctness. Like I said, it is time to quit worrying about what others say about how you defeat an enemy like ISIS.

    Political correctness (or PC for short) means using words or behavior which will not offend any group of people. Most people think it is important for everyone to be treated equally, fairly and with dignity. Some words have been used for a long time that are unkind to some people. Sometimes these words have now been replaced by other words that are not offensive. Such words are described as politically correct. The term is often used in a mocking sense when attempts at avoiding offense are seen to go too far.

    https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/...al_correctness

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    Here's another definition of 'PC';


    Conforming to a belief that language and practices which could offend political sensibilities (as in matters of sex or race) should be eliminated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    Here's another definition of 'PC';


    Conforming to a belief that language and practices which could offend political sensibilities (as in matters of sex or race) should be eliminated.
    So not really anything to do with the issue of how to militarily engage with groups like ISIS is it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    The liberal progresives can suck wind. They have had their day and that is why the world is in the mess it is in.
    Umm.....it was the Bushes wars that got us into this mess.
    Of course fuck all to do with Saddam invading Kuwait eh

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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi
    speaking the real truth
    bwahahahahahaha

    drumpf says what ever his tiny little mind thinks will persuade you to buy an expensive paper bag filled with dogs turds that he is selling

    he is a small fingered halfwit with a combover that needs to come in contact with rotating machinery

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    PC in it's current usage - and especially as it's used here on TD, blamed as the root cause of basically everything - came about after The Geneva Conventions, ENT.
    Not so.

    The 'Geneva Conventions' is a politically correct accord, no matter when the popularist term 'PC' arose, in all its permutations.

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