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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    rob as much intellectual property
    No theft, western companies went into the battle with their eyes wide open. They calculated their existing IP value, and determined their costs of moving beyond them to register newer patents, against the immediately available and future market offered by Chinese consumers, enabling an immediate gain in profits. They have been winning big profits for decades and the Chinese are, mostly, still behind the IP curve. They are now getting closer to the crossover point. Hence the immediacy of goldilocks concerns.

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    to lure countries into debt
    No need to lure anybody, deals are agreed and conditions laid out in front of everybody involved. The new opportunities grow every year hence the continued investments in the China market and it's growing "moderately prosperous society", within China and along it's BRI partners. You really believe the most successful world companies management did/do not see that the only growing markets, Asia, Africa and South America, are crucial to their long term survival. These areas have large populations which are still virgin markets and still growing. Many have next to nothing in terms of trinkets, clean water, electricity, food, all up for grabs by all who join the express train. Those that don't will go the way of the Dodo.

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    rob them of their natural resources
    China's purchases of most of the worlds commodities has kept a floor under the world exchanges, calculated prices. Increasing the suppliers profits. Ask any OZ mine owner/investor, Russia's oil and gas companies/investor, ameristani/South Korean phone companies/investor, Japanese/European/world car and truck manufacturers/investor, banking, medical and financial services companies/investor ..........

    The current trade war is only about goldilocks wants it all to himself and bankrupt the competition and as such, with his background, an ideal choice.

    Others want a share.
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Who cares, if they want the islands go to the ICJ.

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    Because they know they would fucking lose you moron.
    I presume this, International Criminal Court (ICC), is similar to your court, International Court of Justice (ICJ), which one is to be preferred eh?

    ""Their [the ICC's] announcement that they would consider opening an investigation into, among other parties, US soldiers in Afghanistan is a threat to American sovereignty. And if they proceed with that, then the United States would consider those options that Ambassador [John] Bolton laid out today," Sanders said when asked whether the administration was shifting toward a more hard-lined stance on the ICC.

    When making his announcement earlier Monday, Bolton also said the United States would ban ICC judges and prosecutors from entering the country and launch legal proceedings against them if the court seeks to prosecute Americans or citizens of allied countries."



    https://sputniknews.com/us/201809111...e-afghanistan/

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    No theft, western companies went into the battle with their eyes wide open. They calculated their existing IP value, and determined their costs of moving beyond them to register newer patents, against the immediately available and future market offered by Chinese consumers, enabling an immediate gain in profits. They have been winning big profits for decades and the Chinese are, mostly, still behind the IP curve. They are now getting closer to the crossover point. Hence the immediacy of goldilocks concerns.



    No need to lure anybody, deals are agreed and conditions laid out in front of everybody involved. The new opportunities grow every year hence the continued investments in the China market and it's growing "moderately prosperous society", within China and along it's BRI partners. You really believe the most successful world companies management did/do not see that the only growing markets, Asia, Africa and South America, are crucial to their long term survival. These areas have large populations which are still virgin markets and still growing. Many have next to nothing in terms of trinkets, clean water, electricity, food, all up for grabs by all who join the express train. Those that don't will go the way of the Dodo.



    China's purchases of most of the worlds commodities has kept a floor under the world exchanges, calculated prices. Increasing the suppliers profits. Ask any OZ mine owner/investor, Russia's oil and gas companies/investor, ameristani/South Korean phone companies/investor, Japanese/European/world car and truck manufacturers/investor, banking, medical and financial services companies/investor ..........

    The current trade war is only about goldilocks wants it all to himself and bankrupt the competition and as such, with his background, an ideal choice.

    Others want a share.
    All waffle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    I presume this, International Criminal Court (ICC), is similar to your court, International Court of Justice (ICJ), which one is to be preferred eh?

    ""Their [the ICC's] announcement that they would consider opening an investigation into, among other parties, US soldiers in Afghanistan is a threat to American sovereignty. And if they proceed with that, then the United States would consider those options that Ambassador [John] Bolton laid out today," Sanders said when asked whether the administration was shifting toward a more hard-lined stance on the ICC.

    When making his announcement earlier Monday, Bolton also said the United States would ban ICC judges and prosecutors from entering the country and launch legal proceedings against them if the court seeks to prosecute Americans or citizens of allied countries."



    https://sputniknews.com/us/201809111...e-afghanistan/
    Why, when I mention the ICJ, do you waffle on about a completely different body that has nothing to do with solving territorial disputes, the subject of this thread?

    You are retarded. Go and post your ICC waffle in the Retarded Republicans thread.

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    ICC<>ICJ? Both in The Hague. What is their purpose? To whom they serve?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    To whom they serve?
    Whoever stuffs the organisations with their yes men and women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    All waffle.
    I'll equate your "all waffle" comments with your surrendering, due to lack of time.

    OK, I know your a busy worker ant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    I'll equate your "all waffle" comments with your surrendering, due to lack of time.

    OK, I know your a busy worker ant.
    Paranoid or what?


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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Whoever stuffs the organisations with their yes men and women.
    Don't they work part-time on both sites? Just behind the corner...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Don't they work part-time on both sites?
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    about a completely different body that has nothing to do with solving territorial disputes
    'arrys the man for those questions. He implies there are some differences in their "appointed members" and judgments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    'arrys the man for those questions. He implies there are some differences in their "appointed members" and judgments.
    The clue's in the name.


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    China's Zhejiang province wins UN's highest environmental honour

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    "East China's Zhejiang Province is one of the winners at this year's United Nation's Champions of the Earth Award, the international organization's highest environmental honour. The announcement was made ahead of a gala event in New York on the sidelines of the 73rd United Nations General Assembly on Wednesday.

    Zhejiang's Green Rural Revival Program won the award for "Inspiration and Action" for its work cleaning up once-heavily polluted rivers and streams in the province. The program aims to incorporate water management, waste management, and recycling in order to transform the environment in the province.

    "This exceptionally successful eco-restoration program shows the transformative power of economic and environmental development together," according to the website of the United Nations Environment Program.

    For other categories at the Champions of the Earth Award, France's President Emmanuel Macron and India's Prime Minister Narendra Modi were recognized in the "Policy Leadership" category for their pioneering work championing the International Solar Alliance, and for promoting cooperative action on environmental protection.

    The Cochin International Airport in India won this year's "Entrepreneurial Vision" award, while Joan Carling was recognized with the lifetime achievement award for her work as one of the world's most prominent defenders of environmental and Indigenous rights."


    China's Zhejiang province wins UN's highest environmental honor - People's Daily Online
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    China's Zhejiang province wins UN's highest environmental honour
    Well deserved. Spent some time in Hangzhou. Beautiful city and surrounds. Like history so museum and architecture a must see. Really old stuff!

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    But in the wrong thread!

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    Near-collision of US warship and 'aggressive' Chinese Destroyer in South China Sea captured in photos



    Leaked US Navy images have captured the dramatic moment a Chinese warship came perilously close to an American destroyer as it conducted a "freedom of navigation" patrol in the South China Sea.

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    The series of pictures first published by the GCaptain blog show the USS Decatur within 40 metres of a People's Liberation Army Navy destroyer on Sunday morning.

    The Pentagon has accused the Chinese ship of conducting an "unsafe and unprofessional manoeuvre" near USS Decatur as it sailed near Gaven Reefs, which are claimed by Beijing.

    "A [People's Republic of China] Luyang destroyer approached USS Decatur in an unsafe and unprofessional manoeuvre in the vicinity of Gaven Reef in the South China Sea," said Captain Charles Brown, a spokesman for US Pacific Fleet, in a statement.

    Captain Brown said the Chinese warship, "conducted a series of increasingly aggressive manoeuvres accompanied by warnings for the Decatur to depart the area".
    A grainy black-and-white photograph shows two warships approaching each other in open sea.
    Photo: The US accused the Chinese ship of conducting an "unsafe and unprofessional manoeuvre". (Supplied: US Navy via GCaptain)

    Retired Royal Australian Navy Commodore Richard Menhinick said the photos appear to show the Chinese were not acting in accordance with the International Law of the Sea.

    "My guess is that the Chinese vessel positioned itself ahead of the American Ship and then slowed down," Mr Menhinick told the ABC.

    "It's certainly uncomfortable, it's certainly not what's supposed to happen under the Law of the Sea.

    "The Law of the Sea is designed to have a 'give way' vessel and another vessel, and not to end up in situations like that."

    In a statement, Defence Minister Christopher Pyne described the reports as "concerning".

    "We would view any use of intimidation or aggressive tactics as destabilising and potentially dangerous," Mr Pyne said.

    "Australia has consistently expressed concern over ongoing militarisation of the South China Sea and we continue to urge all claimants to refrain from unilateral actions that would increase tension in the region."

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison said Australia would strive to provide a calming influence in the region.

    "Australia will continue to conduct itself around these issues in a very modest, and very constructive way … in a way that would seek to deescalate any issues, rather than escalate," he told reporters in Perth.

    Shadow Foreign Minister Penny Wong said Labor supported the Government's stance.

    "We don't want to see escalation, we don't want to see tension in the South China Sea, we certainly don't want to see risky behaviour," Senator Wong said.

    Near-collision of US warship and 'aggressive' Chinese Destroyer in South China Sea captured in photos - Politics - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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    ^The Chinese gubmint has hacked into the TD server and is censoring links to abc . net . au

    Butters is on the case!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    ^The Chinese gubmint has hacked into the TD server and is censoring links to abc . net . au

    Butters is on the case!
    Thank god for Buttplug eh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    in the South China Sea
    Which destroyer is not in it's 'backyard'?


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    Ooops the only Chinkies will be getting all spikey when they hear this.

    WASHINGTON: The US Navy's Pacific Fleet has drawn up a classified proposal to carry out a global show of force as a warning to China, according to defence officials.

    The draft proposal from the Navy is recommending the US Pacific Fleet conduct a series of operations during a single week in November, CNN quoted the officials as saying on Wednesday.

    Read more at:
    //economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/66063788.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medi um=text&utm_campaign=cppst

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    Which destroyer is not in it's 'backyard'?
    That is a trick question right?

    Neither destroyer is in its back yard.

    They are both in international waters.

    Mahathir is no fan of Western influence in Asia but even he is suggesting that the 7th fleet would be welcome if they wanted to make their presence felt in the SCS.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p06mqqgj

    Amazing to think that coont is 93. He is very sharp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Ooops the only Chinkies will be getting all spikey when they hear this.
    And this.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1ME05W

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    That is a trick question right?
    Must have been since I fucked up the spelling of its and threw everyone off...

    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    it's


    But still, one of those destroyers is on the other side of the planet from its home country**...and the other is not.


    **Given the current state of things in the US domestically...at best, it's overreaching.



    Again...Why is it our business to have warships in that area? Because we're "exceptional?"

    A blue water Navy is not a defensive force... Look how well that Gulf of Tonkin thing turned out half a century ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    Again...Why is it our business to have warships in that area? Because we're "exceptional?"

    A blue water Navy is not a defensive force... Look how well that Gulf of Tonkin thing turned out half a century ago.
    So you're OK with the chinkies just taking over the whole area and deciding who uses the waters it's stolen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Ooops the only Chinkies will be getting all spikey when they hear this.
    WASHINGTON: The US Navy's Pacific Fleet has drawn up a classified proposal to carry out a global show of force as a warning to China, according to defence officials.

    The draft proposal from the Navy is recommending the US Pacific Fleet conduct a series of operations during a single week in November, CNN quoted the officials as saying on Wednesday.

    Read more at:
    //economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/66063788.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medi um=text&utm_campaign=cppst

    Imagine the orange hitler's dummy spit if the Chinese navy was poncing about in the Caribbean demonstrating how tough it is.

    Idiots all of them.

    China has no business claiming territory close to other countries and the US has no place in the waters of SE Asia (except to be the world's self-appointed policeman of course ...).

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