Thread: South Carolina Unarmed Man Shot Over Seatbelt Stop

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Are US police able to stop drivers for not wearing a seat-belt whilst on private property? Which appears to be the fact in this case. Surely, if the guy wasn't on a public highway then the cop's fooked.

He never actually pulled the guy over, just followed him in. I would assume he saw him driving to the station with no belt on. Where the ticket is written is probably moot as long as the offense occurred on public roads.

Originally Posted by Necron99

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Are US police able to stop drivers for not wearing a seat-belt whilst on private property? Which appears to be the fact in this case. Surely, if the guy wasn't on a public highway then the cop's fooked.

He never actually pulled the guy over, just followed him in. I would assume he saw him driving to the station with no belt on. Where the ticket is written is probably moot as long as the offense occurred on public roads.

Traffic laws are not like criminal laws, money making laws. Gas station is probably a public area, as the public have access, not trespassing.
In Australia [some states] and sure this applies to other countries, drunk in charge of a vehicle. Not driving, just have the keys on you, guilty till proven Innocent.
Cop will take a deal, or get off, got to prove the cop fired when he knew the guy was only going for his license.
Guy moved fast, could have been going for a gun, reasonable doubt as to what the cop thought.
Badly played by the cop, but was there intent, or just over reaction, up to a jury.

He's already been fired from the police , not suspended, which wont look good in court .


A lot of the police are faggoty drama queens, playing some gay control freak game .

Many gas stations etc are held up by gunmen every year , but the staff don't wet their pants every time a customer reaches in his jacket pocket , and they don't start swinging their baseball bat.

heres a good one woman beaten for Jaywalking

Then again you may get raped for breaking the law.

Originally Posted by blue

He's already been fired from the police , not suspended, which wont look good in court .


A lot of the police are faggoty drama queens, playing some gay control freak game .

Many gas stations etc are held up by gunmen every year , but the staff don't wet their pants every time a customer reaches in his jacket pocket , and they don't start swinging their baseball bat.

Nothing to do with the court, fired or not, could have shoot a few the day before, not relevant to the charge.
The prosecution needs to prove that the cop didn't think the guy was going or a weapon.
If he was charged for doing bad police work, out and about without a brain, guilty, but he hasn't.
Jury will decide.

Glad to see they fired the cop. The officer that killed the dog in a locked van in Idaho is still on the force.

Dog shooting by Coeur d'Alene police found unjustified

Originally Posted by Necron99

Don't blame me, blame google news.
And cracker cops who shoot unarmed civilians with no cause.
I also post alot about little girls being gang raped and burnt alive in India and Pakistan if that makes you feel better.

Tell you what Bud, next time a cop from Oz, NZ or the UK shoots an unarmed civilian going about his lawful business I'll be the first to post it here with a big shoutout to you. Ok?

Blame you? I applaud you Bud! I'm ready to start up an NGO to fund your totally unbiased reporting of US police atrocities. After reading TD, I've had my eyes opened; all US cops are power crazed, ex special forces killers and its totally wrong, since there are no criminals in the US.

Women burned alive in any country saddens me. So does IS thugs beheading hostages of any nationality. But your pretending to be unbiased with respect to the US is.... Well lets just say your nose is getting longer every day Pinocchio

From the reporting here, I reckon the US population has been reduced by half, roughly 150 million (Illegal cop murders) Sure gonna be some good deals on housing back home.

PS- The black lady punched by a cop is bi polar and was walking in the middle of a busy freeway, being a danger to her self and other motorists. The cop attempted to escort her to safety when she began pushing and resisting hi efforts to assist her.

Yeah, he lost it and should not have hit her; but lets be fair here (not that TD posters care about reason) being a cop is a thankless job. They are always judged to be in the wrong and the tattooed , skin headed, roid idiot is really a sweet guy that would not hurt a fly.

PSS- The black lady received a 1.5 million settlement and the cop agreed to resign from the force.

Since the black lady often refuses to take her medications, why don't some of the more enlightened nations take her in. She can walk in the middle of your freeways and your kind cops -only the US has bad cops- can hug and charm her into being a more responsible person

So keep up the good work Bud.

baldrick, rego is for driving on public roads, bit like toll roads, don't use them don't pay.
Depends which way the law is written, public place, from memory, any place the public has access to.
Get done for drunk and disorderly in a bar, public place, bar closes, no long a public place.
Anyway cop saw him on the road first, victim says he didn't hear the cop yelling get out of the car.
Up to the jury, did the cop think the guy was going for his license or a weapon, jury may find reasonable doubt.
Watch the vid a few time, don't think he shot him because he thought the guy was getting his license.

^ No, he shot the driver because the thought the driver was getting a weapon.

If the cop has become so gun shy he is shooting people who look like that (could be the local football coach or phone company employee) he has lost it and shouldn't be wearing a badge, much less carrying a gun.

lancelot in posting the vids its not anti-American Its anti dirty stinking police whichever nation they came from, they are there to protect and uphold the law, many of these guys are ex-GIs that suffer from PTDs, they leave the forces and get recruited by police forces there a walking time Bomb on the street , bringing these guys into civvy st is hard enough, they have seen things that your normal joe blow can not even start to imagine.

Help these guys first, don't put a gun in there hands dealing with the general public of there country, one wrong move and the person could find themselves blown away as we see in these vids.

I am perfectly happy to post vids and news items about my country, if its highlighted enough the Authorities have to do something, and some thing needs to change to stop these abuses of power.

The women in the Vid could of been restrained not beaten to a pulp.

Originally Posted by Lancelot

Originally Posted by Necron99

Don't blame me, blame google news.
And cracker cops who shoot unarmed civilians with no cause.
I also post alot about little girls being gang raped and burnt alive in India and Pakistan if that makes you feel better.

Tell you what Bud, next time a cop from Oz, NZ or the UK shoots an unarmed civilian going about his lawful business I'll be the first to post it here with a big shoutout to you. Ok?

Blame you? I applaud you Bud! I'm ready to start up an NGO to fund your totally unbiased reporting of US police atrocities. After reading TD, I've had my eyes opened; all US cops are power crazed, ex special forces killers and its totally wrong, since there are no criminals in the US.

Women burned alive in any country saddens me. So does IS thugs beheading hostages of any nationality. But your pretending to be unbiased with respect to the US is.... Well lets just say your nose is getting longer every day Pinocchio

From the reporting here, I reckon the US population has been reduced by half, roughly 150 million (Illegal cop murders) Sure gonna be some good deals on housing back home.

PS- The black lady punched by a cop is bi polar and was walking in the middle of a busy freeway, being a danger to her self and other motorists. The cop attempted to escort her to safety when she began pushing and resisting hi efforts to assist her.

Yeah, he lost it and should not have hit her; but lets be fair here (not that TD posters care about reason) being a cop is a thankless job. They are always judged to be in the wrong and the tattooed , skin headed, roid idiot is really a sweet guy that would not hurt a fly.

PSS- The black lady received a 1.5 million settlement and the cop agreed to resign from the force.

Since the black lady often refuses to take her medications, why don't some of the more enlightened nations take her in. She can walk in the middle of your freeways and your kind cops -only the US has bad cops- can hug and charm her into being a more responsible person

So keep up the good work Bud.

Seriously doubt the cops ex military, 31 years old, trooper of the year 2007, not cadet of the year. Making him say 24 at the time, probably joined the police round 21.
5 year enlistment I think in the US, army, make him 16 or 17 on joining.

Another thing not every marine, soldier is a front line combatant, unless they are in Pattaya. Most never see an angry shot, no PTSD cleaning cars, cooking food, fixing things.

james heres his address and phone number ask him

Sean Groubert 4906 White Horse, Greensboro, NC 27410 (336) 288-2619

Originally Posted by Necron99

Don't blame me, blame google news.
And cracker cops who shoot unarmed civilians with no cause.
I also post alot about little girls being gang raped and burnt alive in India and Pakistan if that makes you feel better.

Tell you what Bud, next time a cop from Oz, NZ or the UK shoots an unarmed civilian going about his lawful business I'll be the first to post it here with a big shoutout to you. Ok?

Fair enough.

lancelot theres a lot of stuff on the net about it.

A lot of the stuff that Brits say about Americans is tongue in cheek, its generally not regarding Americans in general more to do with American govt and yes there is a few nut jobs about.

Don't take it to seriously its the sick Brit sense of humour.

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Originally Posted by blue

He's already been fired from the police , not suspended, which wont look good in court .


A lot of the police are faggoty drama queens, playing some gay control freak game .

Many gas stations etc are held up by gunmen every year , but the staff don't wet their pants every time a customer reaches in his jacket pocket , and they don't start swinging their baseball bat.

Nothing to do with the court, fired or not, could have shoot a few the day before, not relevant to the charge.
The prosecution needs to prove that the cop didn't think the guy was going or a weapon.
If he was charged for doing bad police work, out and about without a brain, guilty, but he hasn't.
Jury will decide.

Wrong
The jury will take note that he has been fired, whether that's within their remit or not .
Fired because the police have already decided he is guilty and washed their hands of him .
I wonder who is paying his legal bills - the police union ? doubt it.

Originally Posted by Yasojack

lancelot theres a lot of stuff on the net about it.

A lot of the stuff that Brits say about Americans is tongue in cheek, its generally not regarding Americans in general more to do with American govt and yes there is a few nut jobs about.

Don't take it to seriously its the sick Brit sense of humour.

Noted.

What we are in agreement about is the fine girl's ass in your avatar.

Huba huba!

Originally Posted by blue

Wrong
The jury will take note that he has been fired, whether that's within their remit or not .
Fired because the police have already decided he is guilty and washed their hands of him .
I wonder who is paying his legal bills - the police union ? doubt it.

Not how the legal system works, can't even bring prior criminal history out. Jury won't be told, if they know, they'll be instructed to disregard it.

Yasojack, cops have complaints made about them all the time, the cameras and personal voice recorders, are there to protect the cops, not the public.

People committing crimes/ traffic offences often don't confess, human nature.
In this case cop over reacted, I think, but to charge him with one level down from attempted murder, is a political charge.
A lessor charge may have got a conviction, not looked as good in the press though.

James perhaps you should do your own research.

And find out what the guy is really about maybe a bit of a eye opener instead of presuming , did you ring his tel nunber?

Originally Posted by Yasojack

James perhaps you should do your own research.

And find out what the guy is really about maybe a bit of a eye opener instead of presuming , did you ring his tel nunber?

The only evidence is the video, that's the alleged offence, whether he was a nice/bad guy means little.
Did he shoot he guy for going for his license or not, going to be hard to prove.
Right and wrong have little to do with the law, or all the bad people would be locked away.